To want every women in England to vote Tory at the GR

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So I don't agree with Angela Rayner's description of the Tories as scum, but I get her drift and if she'd been more tempered in her language I probably would have bought in.

HOWEVER

For me - and actually should be got everyone - the only real issue at the next GE is freedom of speech/women's rights.

I see Labour as the destroyer of these and so must vote against them. The only meaningful way to do this is to vote Tory which I am reluctant but prepared to do.

Is this unreasonable?

Happy to be convinced - for real not just words - if there is evidence Labour (Starmer 1 in 1000 women have a dick) may see the light before the GE.

Also obsessed with gender woo - a very worrying prospect is of a Lab-Lib coalition.

Well said.

Quite. COL is trapping more and more women in abusive relationships. Trans women in refuges or not, women won't leave if they can't feed their kids. And they won't report if they can't trust the police.

Hell will freeze over and the moon fall from the sky and crush the entire tory voting public and party before i put my x in the box for a tory.

The other thing that I often think when I’m thinking about this is that men already attack and kill women quite often, so if a man wants to attack, rape or kill a woman, why would he go to the enormous trouble of identifying as a woman when he could just as easily do it (and very possibly get away with it) as a man?

1). That is an odd argument. Men (and it is mainly men) will become priests, teachers, sports coaches, care workers to access victims. That is why we now have safe guarding policies and codes of practice.

2). Most places and facilities aren’t single sex. The point is that it should be legal to exclude on the basis of sex in some circumstances.

3. None of this would be an issue if people weren’t actively campaigning against single sex sport/refuges etc. You are right. This shouldn’t be a big deal. It is because women aren’t expected to say no to unreasonable demands.

I wouldn't do it even then :)

On the last point, that’s like saying that burglaries are rare so let’s just leave our doors and windows open because why would a burglar go to all that trouble of breaking into a house when he could just rob you on the street?

Well, yes actually I think that's sensible. I would never blindly trust anything the government tells me without looking at the bigger picture.

You need to explain what you think you're saying.

I too have more pressing concerns.

If the very poor state and still declining state of the UK under 14 years of Tory rule has not affected you, OP - the NHS, education from early years through HE, the sorry state of our natural environment and local councils, our sparsely filled supermarket shelves and on and on and on - you are living a charmed life.

Tories know what a women is! It's someone who will make them coffee and whose bum cheek they can grab as a little joke at a work conference.

You think I'm not aware of how to decide who to vote for?

The 'only' issue? Fuck me.

What about the past 14 years, the crumbling NHS, the state of our schools, the sleaze, the lies, the reduction of living standards, the many children living in poverty, the handling of the pandemic, the lack of humanity, the state of the country, crime, the focus on helping the rich rather than the poor...I could go on.

No party is perfect. But I would sure as hell rather have adults in charge than this bunch of incompetent reprobates.

The legal definition of rape is when a person intentionally penetrates another's vagina, anus or mouth with a penis.
Only men have a penis. Simple.

Beautifully put.

No it’s not like saying that at all.

In that last point, I’m not saying that we shouldn’t have women-only spaces and that we shouldn’t protect the right to these spaces. I fully support and agree that we should have women-only spaces.

What I’m saying in that last point that it’s very rare that men identify as women for the specific purpose of committing violence against women and that I think it’s important to remember this

I’m not saying that, because this is rare, women shouldn’t take precautions. I don’t think I’ve said that in any part of my post.

I don’t think my point can be compared to suggesting you leave your house unlocked because burglaries are rare.

FFS... the majority of the electorate voted for pro EU parties in 2017 and the Tories lost their majority, buying off the DUP to remain in power.

Do you sit there making stuff up?

And Sir Keir Starmer will do nothing about any of that as he isn’t any more left wing than some parts of the Tory party. Anyway, we are seeing economic growth again.

Have you looked on their website - it outlines key issues they want to address.

The manifesto, when released, will go into more details and how this will be funded.

Couldn’t put it better.

But who to vote for? I can’t vote for any party who is not happy to stand up and say “ the definition of a woman is an adult female human and that is the only definition, men cannot become women and vice versa”

Anyone who is not prepared to do this is a supporter of misogyny and I have no reason to believe everyone of their policies will also be based on the idea women’s rights do not matter, they do not have a voice, because we don’t even recognise their existence

But the precaution is that no man can enter female-only spaces. All men, whatever they call themselves. You are creating a risk that wouldn’t have been there otherwise. You unlock these norms and it will be far harder to challenge people who enter these spaces, so it will end up as far less rare than now.

If you vote Starmer & Reeves that’s what’ll you get anyway.

“On 31 January 2024, Reeves announced that Labour would not reintroduce a cap on bankers' bonuses, despite having questioned why the cap was being removed by the Conservatives in October 2023. The decision has been linked to large inflows of money into the Labour Party from global banks, professional services firms, consultancies and financiers since 2022. The next day Reeves announed that Labour would not raise corporation tax in the next parliament if it got into power.”

you get the idea …

In fairness one sector has seen off the scale growth - food banks!

Disgusting post.