To want every women in England to vote Tory at the GR

[Hurrydash]

So I don't agree with Angela Rayner's description of the Tories as scum, but I get her drift and if she'd been more tempered in her language I probably would have bought in.

HOWEVER

For me - and actually should be got everyone - the only real issue at the next GE is freedom of speech/women's rights.

I see Labour as the destroyer of these and so must vote against them. The only meaningful way to do this is to vote Tory which I am reluctant but prepared to do.

Is this unreasonable?

Happy to be convinced - for real not just words - if there is evidence Labour (Starmer 1 in 1000 women have a dick) may see the light before the GE.

“In 2022/23, the number of children living in poverty increased by 100,000 from 4.2 million in 2021/22 to 4.3 million children. That's 30% of children in the UK.”

https://www.actionforchildren.org.uk/blog/where-is-child-poverty-increasing-in-the-uk/#:~:text=But%20this%20progress%20is%20easily,of%20children%20in%20the%20UK.

Notice no voting - how strange!!!!

Not a chance - the NHS is on it's knees, education is on it's knees, local councils are on their knees (anyone spot a theme?), 1 in 3 children are living in poverty and you want me to vote the same people who caused all of this back in? Take a hike OP

It's a loaded post, even if it is based on experience.
Also, I didn't say you were a transphobe, merely that being a rape survivor doesn't prevent someone from also exhibiting phobic behaviour.

@CaterhamReconstituted you care more about men than about children.

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@concernedchild you seem to have confused the Tory party for a league of pantomime villains. It's fine to not like them, I never really have, and it's fine to believe what you want about them. But if you actually want to defeat a political opponent it makes sense to genuinely understand their motivations - 'know thy enemy' etc..

You want another five years of ... THIS ??! <\gestures wildly at everything> No. Fuck off.

Agree with @Pixit 1000%

She might not get 'it' how you get it, that's different that not getting 'it' at all.

The OP conveniently forgets that the trans supporting ideology grew all of its many tentacles under tory rule.

The same Tories that have cut domestic violence services to the bone? That have closed refuges due to lack of funding?

The same Tories that voted against making misogyny a hate crime? That have done nothing to end the epidemic of violence against women and girls? The same Tories that have done nothing about the extortionate cost of childcare, meaning that nearly 2 million women can’t take on more paid hours of work?

You want me to vote for 4 more years of this absolute shitshow? Are you drunk?

What a nonsensical comment.

@KeinLiebeslied54321 happily voting for a party who allowed 30% of children to live in poverty is a joke.

When one has been raped by a man and is told by others on here than having men in our most sacred, safe, single sex spaces is 'transphobic' and is a 'tiny issue', that person will get angry and shouty. That clearly never occurred to you, did it?

I'm not speaking to the issue of voting tory or not voting tory. My issue is with people minimising the very serious issue of men in our spaces as if it is such a minor thing and not worthy of consideration with voting. To see people minimise it will make me very shouty and angry. It would to any raped/abused/DV/traumatised women. It may not be a priority to you personally, but please do not minimise it and invalidate our experience. A poll from Scotland showed 96%, yes, ninety-six percent, of all women have either been sexually harassed or sexually assaulted. 96%! Keeping female spaces female only should be of the utmost priority for everyone, but especially for women who vote.

Well tories have ruined the entire country, so there's that.... or am I wrong? Is life better now than 14 years ago?

A pol would have been interesting on this one.

Nope.
Miriam Cates can go.

Interesting that the OP hasn't enabled a poll.

All the parties allow unacceptable levels of child poverty.

No thanks. Not a chance, even if they did something miraculous between now and the election. Austerity, Brexit, Covid, the NHS, education, cost of living crisis.. Boris... how much more destruction can we take?

We will get lots of "under us this will happen" ...you had 14 years and it didn't! Move the fuck over and let someone else have a go.

Edited to add to the list of awfulness... I may be back..

You might want to read my post again. I’m not disagreeing with you.

Don't be so gullible.

@PuttingOutFirewithGasoline so because Labour won’t be magically able to undo 14 years of corruption overnight we should just stay with the tories because what? Better the misogynist in disguise with half assed sound bites than a chance to at least start to rebuild?

And as for the poster saying well they don’t provide school lunches in Australia because it’s a waste and parents in the U.K. should be better able to feed their kids so vote Tory to uphold my political beliefs on the other side of the world or I’ll tell you you are too stupid to know what’s going on? I am sorry about your SA experience but your classism and lack of empathy for what are very real issues of poverty and hunger in this country undermine any point you are trying to make about caring for anyone.

Yes Blatant Tory bots are a fact of MN life in the run up to the election. Tiresome. So easy to spot but lots of people fall for it.

No, I am not. I am saying parents should be doing their job. There is so much waste in the UK that could go to the NHS.

@KeinLiebeslied54321 how so? We haven't had a labour government for 14 years. The members of labour now are different to those who were in power 14 years ago.

Fair enough but the research is that well fed kids behave better and learn faster.

What we want parents to do and what they actually do, are two entirely different things.

Charities step in and feed kids in Aus and some states also provide FSM.