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To wonder which way the vote will go?

257 replies

ManchesterBeatrice · 27/03/2024 14:07

There'll be a general election this year and there's been such a lot of chat everywhere about the Torys losing.

I'd love to think this will be the case, but was thinking where will the votes go! I've always voted labour, and will again, but is there a chance the Torys might get back in?

Maybe there's a big set of silent voters who'll vote them back!

Is the consensus here that they will lose? And if so, to labour?

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Barleycat · 27/03/2024 16:36

Frumpitydoo · 27/03/2024 14:59

Toys will win. Labour are just too wet to offer much competition I reckon, and they've lost the female vote.

Rubbish. I think most women, however gc, are sensible enough to see the bigger picture at this stage. The nhs, education, police, justice system, local councils, environment etc etc etc are crumbling under the current government. Anyone who votes tory based on the gender issue alone is either seriously deluded or would have voted for them anyway.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 27/03/2024 16:36

concernedchild · 27/03/2024 16:34

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow and there you go, getting defensive because you can't stand to hear the truth

😂😂😂😂😂

Christ on a bike. You’re hilarious.

concernedchild · 27/03/2024 16:37

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow so are you.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 27/03/2024 16:37

concernedchild · 27/03/2024 16:37

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow so are you.

🥱

IClaudine · 27/03/2024 16:37

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 27/03/2024 16:31

No it wasn’t. No one l knew could afford to buy a house on their own. I bought with an ex bf.

I’d love to see this 80‘s idyl. Crap wages, shocking conditions, massive youth unemployment.

Yep. Racism rife, homophobia rife, the AIDS epidemic, marital rape legal, sexism and low level sexual assault part and parcel of being a woman in the workplace.

Every decade and every generation has challenges. But housing is a massive difficulty for young people. Right to buy and buy to let have both had negative impacts.

luckylavender · 27/03/2024 16:40

Geebray · 27/03/2024 15:08

I think Labour will win, because Keir is very much trying to sell Labour as Tory Lite.

That's total bunkum

luckylavender · 27/03/2024 16:40

HardyJoker · 27/03/2024 15:09

With the stupidity and ignorance of so many people in this country I wouldn’t be surprised in the slightest if Labour got in. In my opinion there should be a higher age requirement on voting because of this

Talking of stupid

IClaudine · 27/03/2024 16:41

Rishi is actually a very principled and competent man

Hello Rishi's mum 👋

Createausername1970 · 27/03/2024 16:41

Createausername1970 · 27/03/2024 16:28

I have found that it is (was) difficult to have sensible conversations about politics on social media as the extremes at both ends of the spectrum can be quite vile, and if someone puts forward a view they don't agree with, then they all pile on.

In the past I have seen it happen a lot when it was left supporters having a go at someone who expressed a Tory viewpoint. Not just on here, but forums generally.

The problem with that is that people with a right bias tend to keep their opinions to themselves and those on the left end up in an echo chamber and think because the only viewpoint they hear is their own, that they are in the majority. Which is why Brexit and the last general election came as such a shock to some.

And we are only 5 pages in and it's descending into slanging matches and posts being deleted.

I rest my case m'lud 🤣

SherbetDips · 27/03/2024 16:41

I’ll be voting conservative as there’s no alternative tbh. Not that this lot are impressing me tbh at the moment.

luckylavender · 27/03/2024 16:42

BeyondMyWits · 27/03/2024 15:31

Probably end up with a hung parliament this time around.
Can't see Labour getting in with a majority now that Scotland is continually mainly SNP... in addition to the wishy washy "we aren't the Tories, but we're not hard left either" stance.

The SNP vote in Scotland seems very unlikely to hold

cordeliachaseatemyhandbag · 27/03/2024 16:42

I'm assuming Labour will get it just because people vote for change, any change, after 14 years of any party.

No idea whether it'll be close or a landslide though.

Ineedaweewee · 27/03/2024 16:43

concernedchild · 27/03/2024 16:29

@Ineedaweewee I appreciate it. They recognise that they were in a very different situation to the one I am in. Maybe you shouldn't be such a snowflake. Boomer is simply a shortened version of baby boomer. Aka the generation who were a part of the baby boom, because they were born after the world wars.

You really don’t get it ? Baby boomer is not used in a way to disrespect people,surely as a trainee solicitor you have the awareness to understand that ?
BTW snowflake is also an expression used to put the younger generation in their place.I personally would never use that word because it is rude! You have a lot to learn!

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 27/03/2024 16:45

There was some guy on tv talking about this months ago. He said whenever a politician has trashed the economy ((Truss) that party don’t ever get elected at the next election. He went right back to the 70’s in England and the US.

concernedchild · 27/03/2024 16:45

@Ineedaweewee baby boomer is a label the same way the silent generation, generation x is. I think you're being overly offended by a generational label.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 27/03/2024 16:46

Ineedaweewee · 27/03/2024 16:43

You really don’t get it ? Baby boomer is not used in a way to disrespect people,surely as a trainee solicitor you have the awareness to understand that ?
BTW snowflake is also an expression used to put the younger generation in their place.I personally would never use that word because it is rude! You have a lot to learn!

Yeah. Boomer is an insult, Baby Boomer isn’t.

Crikeyalmighty · 27/03/2024 16:46

My own view (and I'm very much in the middle, probably just centre left) is that Labour will get in but slightly closer than it looks on paper at the moment.

The Tory's have simply not governed- their obsession was Brexit and now it is proven it wasn't a panacea for all ills the chickens have come home to roost- parts of the country are shit , not due to EU or immigration here from Poland etc but due to complete mismanagement , defunding of councils, paying huge amounts out to Tory sympathisers, not bringing in controls on water and beaches or utility bills etc - just a total lack of governance and constant navel gazing within their party.

Brexit has come home to roost too- very sensible to make young single EU people feel totally unwelcome who usually shared houses and were not taking up school places or that much time in the health service and replace the gaps in certain sectors with non EU whole families trailing. Not factor in export and import issues with anything involving food or medicines etc - it was always going to come back on them when the realities that there were no sunlit uplands for 'most' as part of it -

I don't think Labour will have much wriggle room either to change much for a very good while and will be looking to make some changes for the least outlay they can- I think the difference though is 'intent' - Labour are often much better for business too- and I say that as someone with a business.

x2boys · 27/03/2024 16:47

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 27/03/2024 16:28

I'm sorry but "working their arses off" was very different then

Was it? ‘Lunch is for wimps’ though🤨

The 80’s were horrible. Worked until you dropped.

No minimum.wage either
Tbf my parents were quite affluent far more than I am now but they both worked for the Gas board ( as it was then ) In well paid office jobs and their only qualifications were a hand full of O levels between them
They were lucky and we went abroad every year ( i haven't been abroad in 15 years )
But the 80,s were awful for a. Lot of people.

concernedchild · 27/03/2024 16:48

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow boomer is not an insult. It's a shortened version of baby boomer.

Ineedaweewee · 27/03/2024 16:53

concernedchild · 27/03/2024 16:45

@Ineedaweewee baby boomer is a label the same way the silent generation, generation x is. I think you're being overly offended by a generational label.

Read what I wrote AGAIN! I acknowledged that Baby Boomer is acceptable! It is Boomer that is used to disrespect! Crikey I really CBA now!

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 27/03/2024 16:54

concernedchild · 27/03/2024 16:48

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow boomer is not an insult. It's a shortened version of baby boomer.

Boomer is the insult.

Baby boomer isn’t.

Its like calling Millennials or Zeds snowflakes.

concernedchild · 27/03/2024 16:55

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow @Ineedaweewee the difference is I'm not offended by being called a snowflake because it really doesn't matter. Boomer is a shortened version of the term baby boomer. That is what I was referring to. If you're so offended might I suggest you take some time to have a cup of tea and relax?

Crikeyalmighty · 27/03/2024 16:56

The working your arses off thing is interesting. My FIL who is 84 admits they frequently went to the pub for 2 hour lunches and people would vanish for hours on end no questions-and his partner (now deceased) used to use that exact wording despite never working more than 12 hours a week max from marriage till her 60s.

The one thing I will say though is in the early 80s and again late 90s was I only had 13 weeks maternity leave in order to keep your job- Labour brought in big changes that would have made a big difference to me just after I had my son.