Jesus held on the cross with nails in his hands

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DD5 is in year 1 and has been learning about Jesus at school. Great stuff in the spirit of Easter.

The RE teacher told the class how Jesus was NAILED to the cross.

This is quite graphic for a little girl who believes that the Easter bunny will leave eggs in our garden.

Should I tell school that this is too much info for little ears?

Religion shouldn't get a free pass it should be open to be questioned and laughed at.

People aren't having a go at individuals in religion rather the institutions.

Christianity has disrespected others beliefs for a long time and killed in the name of it for hundreds of years and you weren't allowed to believe anything different.

I respect peoples right to believe. It doesn't mean I have to respect the religious institutions and I don't.

I find it strange that people who believe in God/s who is this powerful being care what someone says on the internet.

There is actually nothing to state it was a cross he was meant to have died on in the Bible, the Romans would attach you to a post a beam a x shaped cross as from the original Greek word stauros and the Latin word crux did not uniquely mean a cross.

Jehovas witness believe he was on a single post without a cross bar.

Get a grip, for Heaven's Sake. It's common knowledge that Christ was crucified. What do you want kids to think, he was lashed to the Cross with liquorice?

It's literally in many history programmes, books, etc - hence why I said I loved learning these fun facts (eg about crucifixion) as a child. No offense but with every reply I feel like I'm talking to a brainless mob

Assuming @Bunnygirl1902 is surprised MNHQ haven’t taken the thread down ( or at least some posts) given that if this was a thread on the Conflict in the Middle East section and the comments related to Judaism they would have been removed immediately and posters suspended. That’s been happening for months now.

The poster is quite rightly commenting on MNHQ double standards.

Yes that's all I'm saying. You can disagree with someone's choice of faith without being rude about it.

I though it was disgusting the poster ( I believe it was @Tattletwat) that actually commented religion 'should be open to be questioned and laughed at'. Questioned yes, religious people are open to questioning and in fact it is encouraged by many churches but no religion should be laughed at that is a disgusting thing to say.

In terms of Christianity
Only the very very devout believe doing good works buys you a place in heaven.

This idea is all rather old hat now.

In mediaeval times the more money you gave the less chance you had of spending time in purgatory but hell and damnation from the pulpit isn’t preached now.

Some religions still require a number of pilgrimages and / or doing good works are required during your lifetime for salvation, not Christianity.

Im guessing this is what your dd was referring to.

I absolutely agree and if you have been on any of the threads on the Palestinian conflict that would have been slammed by MNs for pages and removed in double quick time by MNHQ.

Of course you miss out the parts why I respect peoples rights to believe what they want.

But yes religion should be laughed at, a lot of what these institutions teach is laughable. You have life of Brian which pokes fun at it.

It's ok for religions to persecute people over 1000s of years but moment you have a laugh at it it's all bad.

I find it really disgusting that you want to control what what people think and what they joke about. But then again that's what religion teys to do.

The MN rightly compared double standards on this site. It has nothing to do with comparing what is going on here with antisemitism.

All forms of religious hate are appalling, whatever the religion and carry equal importance. No one religion is more worthy than another.

People should respect the fact that individuals have a right to follow a path of their own religious choosing or indeed no path at all. We are not in Tudor or Roman times( for example) where people were persecuted for their religious beliefs. Or in fact Ireland in the not to distant past.

Its fine to say I don’t believe in your God or Idol.
Its fine to question its history, formation, beliefs and traditions from an educational perspective.
Its not OK, however, to damn a persons religion or anyone who follows it.
Its all about the wording.

This is how MNHQ look at comments by others on other religions on other threads. They should therefore be treating every religion with equal and due respect.
As the PP mentioned double standards should not be acceptable.

Actually Christmas trees most likely started with Martin Luther. And I was never saying we had lost all of our oagan cultural commodities. Just that these things have not conditioned the culture, the national psyche, and all the services and systems that underpin the country in the way Christendom has.

It isabsolutely true that any historian who denies the existence of Jesus is simply not credible and wouldn't be taken seriously by their peers in the field.

Only the very very devout believe doing good works buys you a place in heaven.

Actually this is completely antithetical to Christian doctrine. Christianity teaches salvation by grace for the repentant, and that anyone who tries to earn their way into heaven through good works is condemned because God's standard is impossible for a sinful human to meet. That's why Jesus died on the cross. To take our punishment in our place so that we could go to heaven.

Salvation by works is a doctrine of Islam, but definitely not Christianity.

Most churches actually have a Statement of Faith on their website in which they jave to affirm they believe in salvation by grace, not good works. Anyone who believes in salvation by works is not "devout". They're simply not a Christian.

Yes I do say that and I stand by it. You can have your opinions without being rude. If you choose not to follow any faith be it Christianity or any other religion that is entirely your decision and I respect that. It wouldn't do you any harm to show others that do however the same respect in return.

It's not about controlling what you or anyone else wants to think but as a mature adult I would have thought you would have learnt the valuable life skill of being able to voice your opinion whilst also maintaining a level of dignity and respect for yourself and others.

Have you seen what Christianity has done over last 2000 years, respect is not something it deserves.

The people who choose to follow Christianity deserve respect. They are still human beings and just because they don't hold the same beliefs as you do not make them any less deserving of respect regardless of how you feel about Christianity as a whole or it's history.

This is Old Testament stuff and not exclusive to Christianity.

Those religions who follow the text of the Old Testament do not necessarily all believe the ‘stories’ are literal.
Jonah and the Whale for example. The point of the story can be lost by those who literally believe Jonah lived so long inside the whale and spend more time questioning whether this is possible than actually appreciating the point of the story.

A lot of old and New Testament stories are
to some just stories as a way of explaining an idea
to others a literal event

Not all Christians and other religions who use the Old Testament therefore believe the bible is full of literal events but more stories with some historical basis ( ie people were crucified by the Romans ) that can be used as a way of leading a good life.

You can respect someone's right to practise their religion while still laughing at the religion itself.

Well, but I do respect you, @Bunnygirl1902 (even though I don't know you).

I just think some of the things you may believe are silly - laughably so.

What's wrong with that?

Apologies I meant to say Old and New Testament in the last para

And you keep missing out where I keep saying I respect peoples right to their beliefs, wonder why you keep doing that.

I'm not laughing at them I'm laughing at the religion