Jesus held on the cross with nails in his hands

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DD5 is in year 1 and has been learning about Jesus at school. Great stuff in the spirit of Easter.

The RE teacher told the class how Jesus was NAILED to the cross.

This is quite graphic for a little girl who believes that the Easter bunny will leave eggs in our garden.

Should I tell school that this is too much info for little ears?

YABU unless they’re being shown some graphic depiction of course.
@CryHavoc I can recall watching that too, can’t remember how old I was though.

Well if that isn’t a typical MN comment I don’t know what is 😝 ‘grow up’ nice.

Everyone is sooo offended right now.

Actually Easter/Ostara for a lot of people IS about bunnies and eggs. It’s origins in our ancient Celtic/English/Irish/Neo-lithic culture are about celebrating new life (eggs), fertility (rabbits and hares) and the arrival of spring. This is what our ancestors would have celebrated long before Christianity arrived here with the Romans.
I’m SO offended you think it’s about Jesus….

"The idea that something came from nothing ... is a logical impossibility."

No it's not. It might be it's not true that something came from nothing...

(... Although you might like to investigate the 'Schwinger effect', and perhaps look at Out-of-equilibrium criticalities in graphene superlattices, Science Vol. 375, No. 6579, which mentions "Schwinger-like production of hot electron-hole plasma". (See "... graphene enables Schwinger effect" for lay-person's explanation.)

--Or, well, lots of cosmologists think 'something out of nothing' was surely true at least once ...)

... but it's in any case certainly not logically impossible.

Why would anyone think it was?

[Oh, and "God can do whatever he likes," you say: what if he likes to do logically impossible things? There are some such, though your example isn't one; can God do them?]

Well, the average crucifix is pretty graphic in that it shows a bleeding, agonised man being executed! But I think children raised in a Catholic environment don’t even register that, because it’s as ordinary as wallpaper.

On the virgin birth, various gods/significant figures in different religions get great ‘exceptional birth’ stories. Buddha was born from his mother’s armpit. Athena from Zeus’s forehead (after he ate her mother, having impregnated her the normal way…) etc.

Some medieval paintings depict Mary conceiving via the ear.

All churches control people in one way or another and most of them put it in their ‘rule’ books….some as we know are very extreme.
Religion is for those who are at peace with being controlled. If people need something to lean on, whether is religion, gin or a shopping fix I don’t have a problem with it.

If its not possible to get something from nothing, where the fuck did The Universe come from?

Perhaps it didn't come from anywhere. Perhaps it's just always been.

Of course it's possible it came from nothing.

Which is more likely, always been or came from nothing?

Is there another possibility? What, if so?

But isn't the Universe expanding, which means it must have once been a single mass? Is the Big Bang theory out of date nowadays?

No, Big Bang is more-or-less conventional wisdom. And 'came from nothing' looks most likely.

But that's just science. Not necessarily ('logically') true.

Happy to be corrected on this as it's way outside my field of expertise, but my understanding was that if energy is compressed enough, it can form matter? And that is a highly simplified version of the Big Bang theory?

Which isn't entirely incompatible with the concept of creation, depending on how you look at it.

So where did the energy come from?

https://www.twinkl.ie/teaching-wiki/big-bang

good explanation here - it’s amazing how our world was created

He is risen 🙌

Are you sure?

He is risen indeed. Alleluia.

Where’s the evidence?

What happened here is that a Christian gave the greeting we use at Easter, and another Christian gave the reply.

The evidence is our faith, two thousand years later. He who has ears, let him hear.

Oh, interesting! I think there was a book of Mary Magdalene that was not approved by the church for inclusion in the Bible. Also, wasn't there a theory that she was in a painting of the last supper, but the painting was altered to make her appear male? She's such a fascinating character.

Yes, I agree she is fascinating. I heard the story of the painting too.She seems to have such an important part in the story of the passion of Christ that it makes more sense that she was Jesus' wife than she was a random prostitute that he turned away from sin or whatever. As others have said, the ' sex is sinful ' business was added later by the Pope, and the ' not marrying' added to justify priests not being able to marry and risk church property being given away in inheritance than any spiritual aspect. It was probably more likely that Jesus married and had a family as most men his age would have done at that time.

I just looked up the Mary text - it's called the 'gospel of Mary', and seems to be widely considered a gnostic text. There's a wikipedia entry which seems to suggest the downplaying of MM's leadership and portrayal of her as a prostitute was due to misogyny/sexism. I had not heard the idea that Jesus was in a relationship with her, but I agree it seems plausible.

I think the part in the bible that led to the prostitution twaddle was that Mary had 7 devils cast out of her by Jesus. (Don’t quote me I’m Hindu).

Some lonely bitter Christian men, jealous of her relationship to Jesus, decided this meant she was a prostitute.

The idea that the Universe has to come from somewhere or something, or that it must be deliberately originated, implies that pre-universe physics follows current-universe classical physics. But there's already plenty of current-universe physics that doesn't follow classical physics. All we need for the universe to have spontaneously come into existance is for there to be a non-zero chance that it can happen.

In essense, the origin of the Big Bang is either:

A) Physics we don't understand.
B) Magic.

Take your pick.

It could be a combination of the two of course. We can’t say for sure that physics we don’t yet understand may not be what we might currently conceive of as magic.

The painting at the Cistercian monastery of the last supper did not contain Mary. that was John
That was a story in the da Vinci code.

Yes Mary’s book was left out of the Bible.