Jesus held on the cross with nails in his hands

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DD5 is in year 1 and has been learning about Jesus at school. Great stuff in the spirit of Easter.

The RE teacher told the class how Jesus was NAILED to the cross.

This is quite graphic for a little girl who believes that the Easter bunny will leave eggs in our garden.

Should I tell school that this is too much info for little ears?

Which is what I've said multiple times but bunnygirl1902 keeps ignoring that fact for some reason.

Exactly.
I know some very nice Catholics for example and count several as friends. I whole heartedly support their right to hold and practice their beliefs
I absolutely loathe the Catholic Church as an Institution though and alsmost lost a very dear friend by refusing to go to her sons Confirmation (I think thats what it was, some ceremony in a big catholic church anyway)

My children had never been to church at that age either - we’re atheist, so why would they? They also got a pretty graphic lesson on Easter as I remember although my biggest issue was the brought in god squad telling my unchristened children that they were going to hell. That was a fun conversation! They are not traumatised in any way incidentally as I told them it was all nonsense (in my opinion).

I haven’t read the bible or any religious texts - no need to

@Bunnygirl1902 comment doesn’t relate to her belief or the fact that she even has one, just the fact that she respects peoples right to believe as they wish and their right to not be ridiculed and laughed at by MNs.

There is an interesting article on the criticism of peoples religious beliefs by

Richard Moon entitled ‘ Are there limits to the criticism or ridicule of religion?
(id link it but I can’t seem to at the moment)

The basic conclusion is centred around the hurt and harm peoples ‘words’ have on others.

Maybe she’s working! and just not on MN at the moment.
Personally I think she’s made her point. Agree or disagree at your will.

I think laughing and ridiculing someone’s beliefs is disgraceful.
Like @Bunnygirl1902 i have respect for others.

What the heck you on about im on about she keeps ignoring this in her replies to me, nothing to do with working.

And there you go exactly the same as said, o no one is talking about not respecting people's right to believe that isn't what people are saying

But people have every right to mock and ridicule the institutions of religion, if you can't separate the two then that is a you problem.

Exactly.
As I pointed out this is old hat and was something that was preached from the pulpit but never part of the religion.
If PPs teacher is teaching this as part of the Christian religion they should be pointing out whilst it may be historically accurate for a period it is not accurate from a religious perspective.

But people have every right to mock and ridicule the institutions of religion, if you can't separate the two then that is a you problem
Eh? What does this pile of shite even mean? 🙄

Well I think it disgraceful to think laughing and ridiculing someone’s beliefs is disgraceful. Like@Tattletwat I have respect for others.

So there.

Words can be hate speech
In commenting that religion should be laughed at ( for example) that’s not an attack on an individual but by ridiculing a persons belief it is an attack on them. You may not see it that way as you are atheist ( correct me if I’m wrong I think I spotted that on a prev post ) but to a believer of whatever religion they could well find such comments extremely upsetting and damning to their religious beliefs and way of life.

So you see many will not separate ridicule of an institution to personal ridicule and it’s therefore relevant to point this out to an atheist

There is freedom of speech and there is also respect.

Suggest reading @Whereareallthemillionaires article they highlighted. It’s very interesting.

Seeing as you only decide d to quote part of it.

"And there you go exactly the same as said, no one is talking about not respecting people's right to believe that isn't what people are saying

But people have every right to mock and ridicule the institutions of religion, if you can't separate the two then that is a you problem"

If you can't separate people mocking a institution, rather than a person.

But let's call people's opinions shite.

Exactly

You're mocking people's beliefs in this "institution".

Of course Everyones opinion is valid but some may not see the hurt they cause in others so
There are ways of questioning those beliefs without using potential harmful or insulting words whether directed at the person or religion itself is irrelevant.
It’s simple mockery of that persons life,

?? I'm truly baffled there are people so dumb. So you saw "history programmes, textbooks etc" and in your mind that can only mean Bible and religious texts? Like... you're not aware history exists as a separate discipline, and people/children might learn about historical practices and punishments just in general?

You’ll love me - I’m a year 6 teacher and told them today that Jesus wasn’t nailed to the cross though his hands - Victorian experiments on corpses showed that the nails must have gone through the wrists as the hands would have just torn through.

But it’s not so extreme as a ‘mockery of someone’s life’ is it. And where are the harmful and insulting words on this thread?

What’s been said that has caused such outrage on this thread amongst some is that we can have a gentle laugh at the stories that are told in Christianity.

That’s not offensive. That’s the offended person choosing to be offended by it. And offence should not be used to shut down a discussion. The problem is that on here and on social media in general people believe they have a right not to be offended but there is no such right.

Why mock someone else’s knowledge or opinions? We all have different views and perspectives. Some things interest me, others don’t.

There's absolutely no such right, I agree. Nor should there be.
This doesn't mean having a "gentle laugh at" as you call it (others may say taking the piss out of) something people feel strongly about is either necessary or ok.
You're choosing to be offended is just bollocks in this instance, really. Posters not ok with this are hardly shutting down discussion.

My comment wasn’t related to posters words used here, as I don’t recall them all, but as a concept.
A person of religion will not separate their religion from their life or themselves as a human being. They are intrinsically entwined.
As I said there are ways of discussing and questioning peoples beliefs without using any form of inflammatory language that could cause harm. It’s a simple courtesy.

I don't belive my children never hearing about the Christian easter story will be embarrassingly ignorant ! Religion isn't important to non religious people . I think people forget that! What makes something important to u doesn't mean its important to others. I think that's arrogant in a way.

My brother was upset by the story of Abraham and Isaac. But for a different reason from usual: he wailed "what about the poor RAM?". (The ram that God told Abraham to kill, instead of Isaac.)

In Blackadder's Christmas Carol, Baldrick highlights children loving the gross stuff. After they used a dog for the Baby Jesus in the Nativity, he says "they want us to come back at Easter. They want to see us nail up the dog!"

People do not want to separate them selfs from institution. Well look at the Catholic church, the institution covers up for paedophile priests, look at the nuns and dead children in Ireland, the against contraception in Africa which hinders HIV prevention if you can't separate yourself you are culpable.

Of course we separate the religious believers from from that.

And no not all religious beliefs are valid we have cults and the Westboro Baptist Church the best thing you can do about westboro is mock them.

On the subject of laughing at religion, Don't think Monty Python got the memo!