Jesus held on the cross with nails in his hands

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DD5 is in year 1 and has been learning about Jesus at school. Great stuff in the spirit of Easter.

The RE teacher told the class how Jesus was NAILED to the cross.

This is quite graphic for a little girl who believes that the Easter bunny will leave eggs in our garden.

Should I tell school that this is too much info for little ears?

Er, Father Christmas, aka Saint Nicholas, was a real person who people later made up a load of supernatural nonsense about, a bit like Jesus. At least eggs and rabbits are definitely real and you’re actually likely to see them at Easter.

Think you might actually be right about the timing BUT the Romans only occupied certain parts of the UK = london/wales ect. So for the vast majority of the country easter - the german one - was alot more prominent + tied to the general feelings of renewal /'we've survived another winter'

@ApplePippa Also to add - the Romans arrived in northern europe via southern Germany

So the Romans themselves had already experianced/witnessed easter in some form before they got to the UK & probably helped inadvertedly purpetrate it as a christian holiday in areas where the saxons themselves didn't travel too (london specifically) which is a bit odd to think about.

fun facts - what have we come to when nailing someone to a cross is a fun fact!!??

We all learnt this as 4 or 5 year olds. Toughened up up for gladiators and disemboweling later on 🤣

Wonder if a Roman soldier will jab him in the side with a spear…

But I will use your thread title next time I want to express amazement, a bit like when in Derry girls they say jesus , Mary, Joseph and the wee donkey

I think you really need to not shield her from this stuff so much. Im not into religion AT ALL but it’s one of those things that kids just learn. Shes going to be a very immature teenager/young adult if you are shielding her from every little thing now. Unfortunately it can be kids like this that get everything hidden from them that end up being very naive

@Emmerald
Yule (also called Jul, jól or joulu) is a winter festival historically observed by the Germanic peoples that was incorporated into Christmas during the Christianisation of the Germanic peoples.

Easter actually originated as an ancient pagan celebration of the spring equinox.

Christmas might be considered to be all about Jesus to people who believe in certain religions, and Christian Easter (passover) also about Jesus, but there are older celebrations at both times that are all about celebrating and enjoying the time and nothing to do with Jesus or Christianity so it is absolutely right for people to choose to celebrate Christmas/Yule and Easter (not passover) as a celebration involving presents and bunnies and eggs if they choose to.

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Got the age wrong - same point

Are you referring to my post? It's rather the opposite isn't it?

Teachers and parents are more cautious than ever. Small children nowadays (not teens though!) live in a far more sterilised, sanitised, censored world than any previous generations. I don't necessarily mean this in a bad way, just an objective way.

What was a "fun fact" for my generation (and I'm only in my 20s) would be labelled "traumatising and inappropriate" today – see OP's and your post!

Anyway, as a child I had an insatiable curiosity for historical facts & general knowledge, and if my child does too I certainly wouldn't say no to developing their intellect.

Not talking, you would need air from the lungs to make a sound but lips moving and being able to see, yes that is certainly possible.

But then other parts of the resurrection story do not make sense. How are you going to explain the whole doubting Thomas story? For example.

The lovely thing about belief is that your child can choose. They might also lean about stories from Hinduism which involves a baby in a fire or a flying monkey, or stories from Buddhist or Islam. It's all make believe. It's also an opportunity to talk about older faiths than the Abrahamic faiths and how their timing was based around the original Spring and Winter festivals. There's no bunnies or eggs in the bible after all!

Excellent 🤣🤣🤣

Is it a church school? If so, then followers are expected to understand the sacrifices that Jesus made for us, (If that's what you believe), even from an early age. If anything, it teaches key values as a decent human being for believers and non-believers.

I was told the nails were prob through his forearms as just through his hands prob wouldn't sustain enough weight.

It's worse than that though. It was through his wrists. Crucifixion wouldn't work through the hands. The Romans knew what they were doing when it came to brutal killing. It's not nice. It's not meant to be.
Also raised Catholic. I can't remember not knowing this.

This what confuses me! 90% of people are saying she is unreasonable to not want her child be exposed to torture, and then when children are exposed to torture is other ways by media, film and games it's a massive issue ! Why is religion given a free pass? So bizarre!

Religion is only a 'fun fact' to religious people. People who are Atheist don't belive any religious story is a fact, let alone a 'fun fact'!

I am curious as to why people insist that a 5 year old needs to know the FULL details - and not just that he was left to die on a cross.

And in reality, they aren't told the FULL details - they aren't told that he was whipped so hard that the skin came off his back. They are told that he was whipped but not told exactly what that meant.

Why are people insisting that a 5 year old needs to know the details of the nails? Why not just stick with he was left to die on a cross? They have plenty of time to revisit the story and to be told the full glory details?

Surely it depends on how culturally significant the story is? I wouldn't read a 5 year old a macabre storybook by a random author, but the Easter story is so foundational to Western culture that to not teach it is to leave them embarassingly ignorant.

This did make me laugh. Mumsnet taking it to the next level. 😂

OP - on the same theme presumably the teacher did not mention they stuck a sword in his side to finish him off when he irritatingly did not die?

She’ll have forgotten about it next week especially if you are not churchgoers and she won’t see crucifix’s on a weekly basis.

Brace yourself. She will learn about much worse barbarism as she goes through school.

As seen on this thread many people today in Britain do not consider the Christian Easter tale as foundational to our culture anymore. It doesn’t resonate with many people anymore.
That era has moved on in my opinion. Even in a church school most of the parents aren’t actually religious. Hence the OP questioning the story. It’s normal and healthy to question things in this way.

Surely it's supposed to be horrifying? It's an awful thing to do to someone who is guilty, let alone innocent. It's good that she's horrified. Jesus being crucified, whether you believe he was the son of God or not, is history, not a story. It happened and it's awful and we should remember to be better than that now.

I do get that it stings to see your children come into contact with the horrors of the world, but it has to happen and it's our job to bring them up to be people who rage against it, not wrap them up and pretend it isn't there. 2000 years ago is long enough ago to be a gentle start.

Mind you, I was reading mine Beowulf with monsters and snapping spines in it by that age, so I might not be the best judge 😜

In that era many people were probably killed in horrific circumstances. Jesus was just one of them - no need to focus on one individual case.