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Jesus held on the cross with nails in his hands

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TaFox · 20/03/2024 21:43

DD5 is in year 1 and has been learning about Jesus at school. Great stuff in the spirit of Easter.

The RE teacher told the class how Jesus was NAILED to the cross.

This is quite graphic for a little girl who believes that the Easter bunny will leave eggs in our garden.

Should I tell school that this is too much info for little ears?

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Graviga · 21/03/2024 18:53

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CaliforniaHereWeCome1 · 21/03/2024 19:00

Totally agree it’s inappropriate for that age group. Shame on the people who squeal “but it’s religiiiiooon and it really happened and we should respect beliefs”. Lots of horrible things happen that we don’t tell 5 year olds about because they are not old enough. Religion is all fabricated bullshit so why are we still inflicting this nonsense on children? It should be prohibited.

Yellowbananasarebetterthangreen · 21/03/2024 19:21

@ConJob oh my goodness my pelvic floor muscles. You've won the internet for me today!

ConsistentlyPeeved · 21/03/2024 19:43

Apologies for pissing on the chips of those who think Easter isnt about chocolate eggs and bunnies.

Read up about how Christian's/ catholics took pagan holidays/ rituals and made them their own.

Yes Jesus story is unique. However the egg representing fertility and new beginnings dates to Babylonian times. A fertility goddess known by Ostara was thought to be able to turn into a hare and lay eggs.

Prunesqualler · 21/03/2024 20:13

Wonder how OP would feel about dc watching their teacher do a rabbit dissection in class at age 9 as my kids did.

Wingham · 21/03/2024 20:14

ConsistentlyPeeved · 21/03/2024 19:43

Apologies for pissing on the chips of those who think Easter isnt about chocolate eggs and bunnies.

Read up about how Christian's/ catholics took pagan holidays/ rituals and made them their own.

Yes Jesus story is unique. However the egg representing fertility and new beginnings dates to Babylonian times. A fertility goddess known by Ostara was thought to be able to turn into a hare and lay eggs.

Chocolate ones?

NoEnemiesManyPatios · 21/03/2024 20:17

NB: not through the hands, but the wrists. So even their Xian iconography gets it right. >smdh<

Emmz1510 · 21/03/2024 20:19

To answer the person who thought it was wrong for this to be taught in schools- I understand your point however im an atheist and I have always taught my daughter that she gets to choose what she believes when she is older and can make the decision for herself. That’s why I don’t have a particular issue with my daughter learning about religion in school and being told these stories.

I agree with user1475. At 4 she won’t fully understand or have an emotional connection to how painful and bloody that would have been and probably have just a superficial, matter of fact understanding of it. They don’t overthink things at that age.
Any distress she does have is likely to be short lived and you can validate her feelings and reassure her in a child friendly way that although it would have been very painful Jesus was very very brave

Toffifee1 · 21/03/2024 20:21

Can’t believe that she got voted unreasonable. I wouldn’t want my toddler to be told anything involving the torture of a living creature. My DC doesn’t need to know how animals are slaughtered yet or how people were nailed to a cross or other mean things humans do/did to each other.

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Laikalaika · 21/03/2024 16:49

It’s the same with Xmas. Our ancient ancestors celebrated Yule which was around the winter solstice and celebrated the return of the sun (or son 🤔!).

Also a myth. Quite an outdated one now

https://www.google.com/amp/s/ca.thegospelcoalition.org/article/christmas-isnt-pagan/%3famp

That’s hardly an unbiased opinion is it. And for every website that holds this opinion there is another which disputes it. For example https://www.history.co.uk/articles/the-pagan-roots-of-easter

You are entitled to your opinion as I am to mine but you’ll never convince me that Easter doesn’t have its roots in our ancient English/Irish/Celtic/Pagan traditions. Hares/rabbits and eggs have been around as symbols of new life and springtime for centuries longer than the story of Jesus being killed on a cross.

The pagan roots of Easter

Some historians have argued the name derives from a pagan springtime goddess called Ēostre

https://www.history.co.uk/articles/the-pagan-roots-of-easter

Scottsy200 · 21/03/2024 20:22

Perfect Mumsnet post

maybe they can change it to the fact that he was held on the cross by pretty bows and ribbons just so your little precious doesn’t get upset, what has become of this bloody world

Bertielong3 · 21/03/2024 20:22

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Elly46 · 21/03/2024 20:24

I’m catholic and was taught in a convent school by nuns from age 3, in the late 70’s. I learned that he was nailed to the cross and it didn’t affect me at all.

celticprincess · 21/03/2024 20:25

Ah yes, mine did it from nursery as they were at a catholic pre school from age 3 and they went to church for mass if there was a school mass on.

I think by y1 she was learning about Louis Braille and the accident that caused him to lose his sight and how the use of braille came about. That was quite a graphic story as well.

But yes, RE is part of the school curriculum and the different religious stories need to be told. They’ll hear a lot worse in history lessons though doing the plague, the Tudors etc. Lots of gruesome tails to be told.

Scottsy200 · 21/03/2024 20:25

The whole Easter bunny thing is beyond me like people don’t lie enough about the tooth fairy or Father Christmas or those poxy little elves that you want to make a while nother lie up 🤦🏽‍♀️

just buy a chocolate egg and a teddy rabbit or some Easter crafts I can’t bear this whole waking up on Easter like Father F’ing Christmas has been again - seriously

JudgeJ · 21/03/2024 20:27

benefitstaxcredithelp · 21/03/2024 00:21

I see you are being facetious but I think this parent did absolutely the right thing. Not at all appropriate for such young children. We should question weird macabre shit like this. Just because it’s been told for years doesn’t make it right.

Facetious? Well done Sherlock, to put it politely.

itsgettingweird · 21/03/2024 20:29

But that's the Easter story.

Whatever people do to celebrate it originated as a Christian religious festival because those who believe in Jesus believe he was nailed to a cross, died and rose again.

My friends 6yo has been learning this in school. He does a fantastic theatrical demonstration of Jesus dying on the cross 🤣🤣

Purpleturtle45 · 21/03/2024 20:29

I teach P2 and I wouldn't say this. I would say Christians believe Jesus died on a cross. That being said I wouldn't complain about it.

itsgettingweird · 21/03/2024 20:30

NorthCliffs · 20/03/2024 21:50

My 4 year old son carefully examined a particularly gruesome crucifix on a table in a Catholic church. He said 'Where's his socks? Aren't his feet cold?' and moved on.

🤣🤣🤣 He sounds brilliant Grin

Toffifee1 · 21/03/2024 20:41

Scottsy200 · 21/03/2024 20:25

The whole Easter bunny thing is beyond me like people don’t lie enough about the tooth fairy or Father Christmas or those poxy little elves that you want to make a while nother lie up 🤦🏽‍♀️

just buy a chocolate egg and a teddy rabbit or some Easter crafts I can’t bear this whole waking up on Easter like Father F’ing Christmas has been again - seriously

Well the fairytale about Jesus suddenly being alive again (but not eating brains like in any decent zombie movie) is no better and certainly not more childfriendly from the viewpoint of other religions and atheists..

Soowoo · 21/03/2024 20:55

When I was a child I somehow got the idea in my head that Jesus was burned to death on the cross. It wasn’t until I was in senior school that I was told - by other 11 year olds - that he wasn’t burnt, he just died because he was hanging on a cross. It took a while for them to convince me! When I realised that I’d been wrong all those years I remember feeling annoyed that no one had ever explained the crucifixion to me. I don’t think we were taught about it at primary school - let alone being told about the nails - it was mentioned, but they were pretty vague about it.

Pippa246 · 21/03/2024 20:56

ruhroh · 21/03/2024 14:06

Yeah, I actually grew up thinking nails was a fairytale/legend type thing and was surprised to grow up and learn about the technicalities of crucifixion, eg sponge, organ failure, asphyxiation etc.

Anyway, she'd have heard lots of stories about other traditional forms of punishment like beheading ("off with his head!") in Alice in Wonderland, or fantasy ones like a witch baking and cannibalising children in Hansel and Gretel. Most Disney kids movies contain a fair bit of murder and sick torture actually.

I was thinking about the “off with her head” type thing the other day after watching Napoleon. It’s said so flippantly that you forget it’s someone actually being beheaded. But yes, lots of brutality in children’s literature!

ThePenguinIsDrunk · 21/03/2024 21:19

She'll be fine - as a young child (4-5) one of my favourite illustrations from my children's bible was Herod killing all the babies (no joke), including a man holding one by the foot about to cut off its head (!). I promise that I am a normal(-ish) well balanced adult now.

WearyAuldWumman · 21/03/2024 21:21

TaFox · 20/03/2024 21:43

DD5 is in year 1 and has been learning about Jesus at school. Great stuff in the spirit of Easter.

The RE teacher told the class how Jesus was NAILED to the cross.

This is quite graphic for a little girl who believes that the Easter bunny will leave eggs in our garden.

Should I tell school that this is too much info for little ears?

I recall our minister telling us that the nails actually went through the wrists.

jen337 · 21/03/2024 21:28

Most sane people would agree that exposing children to graphic violent imagery is not acceptable. Shows how effective religious indoctrination is that people are queuing up to defend it on here.