Jesus held on the cross with nails in his hands

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DD5 is in year 1 and has been learning about Jesus at school. Great stuff in the spirit of Easter.

The RE teacher told the class how Jesus was NAILED to the cross.

This is quite graphic for a little girl who believes that the Easter bunny will leave eggs in our garden.

Should I tell school that this is too much info for little ears?

Attitudes like this are is why I am an ex-catholic!

Wait til she hears about Salome asking for John the Baptist’s head on a plate for her birthday.

Appreciate that
Which is why I said ‘I think a lot of people’ ….not all. Any two people will have different thoughts and reactions to a single situation.

Great post

We all learnt this as small children - it's fine. The whole point is that Jesus had to die.
It's also fine not to believe in Christianity, but children definitely need to understand the meaning of Easter. They absolutely must realise that it's not just about chocolate and fluffy chicks. Well done that teacher, for allowing children to learn.

That's one way to get a 4 day working week every week of the year 😆

Thank you - exactly what I think. No two kids will have the same reaction so it's wrong to assume all five year olds will be 'fine' about it.

Obviously, some kids are fine - my daughter was completely fine about Horrible Histories type gore from around eight, but wouldn't even watch a Disney Film aged five.

Someone earlier said that they will come across worse in real life or on the news - I really hope not!

Is that when you converted to being a self righteous bore? 😂

They really took the crime and punishment to the next level so they did.

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time/punishment!!!

Hanged, drawn and quartered is another gory method of punishment.

Something I've wondered ever since I learned about the guillotine. Once the head is removed from the body, can the head still talk? I don't know if it was something I watched in a programme like Horrible Histories and a head was talking from the basket but as the brain is in the head, and there would be blood in the cranial cavity (at least for a very short time) could the head still talk?

No, it's when I decided I disagreed with indoctrinating children.

Exactly!

Exactly.
I got really upset by stories of animals being killed and sacrificed. Romans killing lions, zoos and animal slaughter and seeing dead animals strung up outside butchers shops or bits of meat packaged and for sale in supermarkets. That felt more real to me.

Unfortunately that’s all part of life and world history or part of some religious traditions. We can’t avoid it being taught.

Kids watch these things all the time, Watership Down, Bambi etc. It can’t all be banned because some find it upsetting.

but children definitely need to understand the meaning of Easter. They absolutely must realise that it's not just about chocolate and fluffy chicks. - well, no they don't. For many children fluffy chicks (new life) is indeed what it is all about.

Later when they are older they need some understanding of Christianity (and indeed other religions) in order to make sense of cultural references - art, music etc. Until then, let us spare them this barbaric stuff.

It is about being age-appropriate. Small children do not need to be subjected to the barbarism.

The only bible story that really scared me as a small child, and gave me nightmares, is the one where God tells a man to kill his own son with a knife and he goes along with it (and we were taught that he was correct to do so). The fact that God told him at the last moment not to do it was not much consolation to me at the time.

I'd be more worried about them spouting religious twaddle full stop

I hear a chicken survived for over a year once it’s head was taken off.
Mind you this was on Richard Osmans Game show

I wonder if they kept the chicken on a drip

We all learnt this as small children - it's fine. The whole point is that Jesus had to die**

Exactly. And not just ‘die’ but suffer immensely while he died. That’s the point.

Whether you are a Christian, Agnostic, Atheist or any other religion, it’s an historical fact that a dude named Jesus (translated over the ages) did exist and wandered around that area and was crucified. Pretty much everything else is up for debate, from the details of his conception, to certain acts he may have undertaken that are now termed miracles, who his ‘father’ was in an ongoing sense, whether his ‘father’ is ‘real’, what happened after he died etc, but irrespective, the fact is he was a real person who was crucified which involved torture. To pretend otherwise or make out to kids he was some dude who died peacefully while being held by some form of velcro to a cross is really odd.

It's no big deal. Children have been told that story for years and I don't think any lasting damage has been done.

I agree.
But I assume a lot of parents walk around the meat section in supermarkets or dish up the odd chicken carcass, leg or whatever before they reach the age of 4.

Some Butchers still have carcasses hung in their windows or pictures on the walls. I’m guessing parents don’t blindfold their kids when they walk past.

You do understand that all culture indoctrinates children don't you? Do you disagree with that also?

We're indoctrinated to be consumers, for one!

They will. Kids need to toughen up or shall we scrub out all the upsetting nasty bits of history?

Was it only the Christian Holy book that you ignored ?

It's literally what Easter, the most important celebration in the Christian calendar, is about.

We learned it at 4/5 the first time it came up in Primary 1, though possibly I had been told before, with no harm. This at a time when we'd only in the past year hung the last two people where a death sentence was carried out in the UK.