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New study: Millions of men ‘would xesually abuse children if secrecy was assured’ — The Times

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ElatedShark · 19/03/2024 11:35

New study: Millions of men ‘would xesually abuse children if secrecy was assured’ — The Times.

A new study has revealed a shocking proportion of Australian men would abuse children “if no one found out”.

The research, conducted by the University of New South Wales, found “concerning” patterns, including that one in six Australian men said they had feelings for children under the age of 18, with 48 per cent of those answering being aged over 54.

One in 15 men questioned admitted they would have xesual contact with a child under the age of 14 if “no one found out”, while one in 25 said the same about children under 10.

The odds of a respondent saying they would have had xes with someone under the age of 18 was 10 times higher if they were aged over 65.

The survey, which questioned over 1900 men aged between 18 and 65 years old, is the world’s largest child sexual abuse perpetration prevention survey of its kind.

The study was welcomed by those who say that the common nature of xesual violence against women needs to be studied at the perpetrator level as well as with victims.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/millions-of-men-would-sexually-abuse-children-if-secrecy-was-sure-ncf9lx5v7

AIBU to be find it disturbing that these were the men only willing to admit it and its probably alot higher??

Reminds me of that red*it thread about men getting aroused changing their daughters diapers or that other study that showed men would happily commit rape if they were assured to never be revealed/caught.

What can we as women/parents/men that don't fall into the above statistics do to combat this ? How can we ensure our sons are not thinking these thoughts are ok?

Millions of men ‘would sexually abuse children if secrecy was assured’

Millions of men would have sexual contact with a child if they were certain that no one would find out, research has suggested.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/millions-of-men-would-sexually-abuse-children-if-secrecy-was-sure-ncf9lx5v7

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ScrollingLeaves · 22/03/2024 22:46

EmpressSoleil · 22/03/2024 22:07

We can't say women never sexually abuse children. I know a guy personally who was sexually abused by his mother. There was that female nursery worker a while back who was part of a paedophile ring. Then there were the women who gave/offered their babies to Ian Watkins, which just defies belief.

Yes I absolutely agree it's a small percentage of women compared to men. But I think its also important to acknowledge for the victims sakes. Its a small percentage, but a small percentage of a great number, so still significant.

I had never heard of Watkins so looked this up. It is depraved beyond belief. And not only was he a paedophile including with babies, a woman fan as you said sexually abused her own baby on his behalf.

ForTonightGodisaDJ · 22/03/2024 22:49

Xenoi24 · 20/03/2024 12:49

On the main subject of the thread, I think we have lots of ideals about men - as people and as fathers - that are actually just that; ideals and very flawed ideals at that.

We have an ideal that they are wired to be good fathers, wired to be "decent" around children and youths ..... But are they??

A percentage might be, but clearly a very large proportion are not trustworthy or positive around children and young people. They are sexually driven, sexually predatory etc.

Even outside of their sex driven, predatory behaviour; they tend to be much less caring, empathetic, responsible etc. than females on average.

Anytime I see irresponsible behaviour towards children by a parent or adult, it's 9/10 a man, not a woman.

Anytime a parent abandons their children, it's vast majority the male parent.

We think they should have equal access and responsibility for the children they produced (and be caring and empathetic and responsible toward children and young people in general) but isn't that actually just a naive ideal? Look at the nature of the beast.

Look at crime stats - males, at the narrow end of the wedge - are responsible for the vast vast majority - nearly 100% of violent and sex crimes.

At the less narrow end they are responsible for the vast majority of partner and ex partner murders.

At the even less narrow end, they are responsible for the majority of domestic abuse.

The vast vast majority of the sex industry exists to cater to them/with them as customers.

There are so many other examples.

It's sad, but I think we really have the rise tinted glasses on, about what a significant portion of males in any society are like ..and what a risk (from "minor" to major) they are to women and children.

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This!

Cazpar · 23/03/2024 08:56

EmpressSoleil · 22/03/2024 22:07

We can't say women never sexually abuse children. I know a guy personally who was sexually abused by his mother. There was that female nursery worker a while back who was part of a paedophile ring. Then there were the women who gave/offered their babies to Ian Watkins, which just defies belief.

Yes I absolutely agree it's a small percentage of women compared to men. But I think its also important to acknowledge for the victims sakes. Its a small percentage, but a small percentage of a great number, so still significant.

There are also women who aren't paedophiles but who abuse children for other reasons. There was a rather harrowing article on the BBC last year or the year before about women in poverty (I think in the Philippines) abusing their children on camera for men who were paying to watch over the internet.

bombastix · 23/03/2024 16:29

I doubt that there isn't a woman posting on this thread that did not have a man act or behave really inappropriately to her at 14 or younger. It is very common.

I remember it, and it was older men. Always.

SheepAndSword · 23/03/2024 16:43

Depressing

OlympicProcrastinator · 23/03/2024 17:26

The only thing I’m surprised about is that this is a surprise to anyone.

Hartley99 · 23/03/2024 22:15

I have heard so many horrible stories from female friends over the years. At least six or seven have told me of rape or abuse, often in childhood. None of them ever went to the police. One woman told me she was repeatedly abused by her mother's boyfriends. In fact, she had stayed in contact with one of them because he was the only one who didn't abuse her. Another told me her step grandfather used to sexually abuse her while her mum and grandmother were in the kitchen. She would have been seven or eight.

The fact that none of these women ever went to the police is terrifying. That means all those abusers are still out there. Actually, one did go to the police, but her rapists were never caught. If that's normal, that means that for every reported rape, there are five or six which don't show up in the statistics. No doubt many of those abusers and rapists have children or grandchildren and are regarded as loving family men. I have often looked at old men, who are liked and respected, and wondered if they hide some terrible secret. For sure some do. I bet every one of us has, without knowing it, spoken to an older man who raped or abused a girl when he was young. Think how often you've been in the presence of an older man who has given you the creeps.

User135644 · 24/03/2024 09:11

Hartley99 · 21/03/2024 19:08

There are SO many men like that. I’m convinced the sexual abuse of young girls was common all over this country until very recently. The Saville exposure didn’t shock me at all. He was just an extreme example. This is why I believe we should constantly talk about it. Abusers thrive on shame and secrecy and embarrassment. I would urge anyone who was abused in the past to expose the grandfather or stepfather or stepbrother or whoever it was. Every time some scumbag is arrested for historic abuse, it makes other scumbags think twice.

I wrote in another post about a friend whose mother had lots of different boyfriends when my friend was a young girl (10-16). She said almost all of them either abused her or tried it on. This was back in the ‘70s, when people didn’t talk about this stuff. I bet that kind of thing happened all the time, but girls kept it to themselves. The police probably weren’t interested. And in any case, how could you prove it? Until very recently, young people, especially from poor backgrounds, were pretty much ignored.

I would like to see a thorough investigation into sexual abuse in children’s homes in the U.K. as well, as far back as there are living witnesses. I’ve a nasty feeling it was absolutely rife in orphanages in this country until well into the 1980s.

Even some of the elites must be thinking twice now post-Epstein.

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