New study: Millions of men ‘would xesually abuse children if secrecy was assured’ — The Times

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New study: Millions of men ‘would xesually abuse children if secrecy was assured’ — The Times.

A new study has revealed a shocking proportion of Australian men would abuse children “if no one found out”.

The research, conducted by the University of New South Wales, found “concerning” patterns, including that one in six Australian men said they had feelings for children under the age of 18, with 48 per cent of those answering being aged over 54.

One in 15 men questioned admitted they would have xesual contact with a child under the age of 14 if “no one found out”, while one in 25 said the same about children under 10.

The odds of a respondent saying they would have had xes with someone under the age of 18 was 10 times higher if they were aged over 65.

The survey, which questioned over 1900 men aged between 18 and 65 years old, is the world’s largest child sexual abuse perpetration prevention survey of its kind.

The study was welcomed by those who say that the common nature of xesual violence against women needs to be studied at the perpetrator level as well as with victims.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/millions-of-men-would-sexually-abuse-children-if-secrecy-was-sure-ncf9lx5v7

AIBU to be find it disturbing that these were the men only willing to admit it and its probably alot higher??

Reminds me of that red*it thread about men getting aroused changing their daughters diapers or that other study that showed men would happily commit rape if they were assured to never be revealed/caught.

What can we as women/parents/men that don't fall into the above statistics do to combat this ? How can we ensure our sons are not thinking these thoughts are ok?

This is horrific sounding. I'd say I'd believe a large minority of men would sleep with a 15 yo that looked older and seemed like they were 'interested' and they wouldn't get in trouble. Gross as it sounds. I've no data to back it up though. I'm wondering where they got the sample from for this survey? Like was it random or did people respond to an advert? Soz I'm not paying the paywall so can't read article.

Link behind a paywall

But how does 1900 men translate to 'millions'?

Absolutely believe they would. Curiosity mixed with anonymity would win over morality and compassion.

That's how statistics are formed. 1900 of a random selection can be fairly accurately expanded upon. How do you think stats are created. No study asks every single person in the world

I think this is shocking, but not for the headline reasons. I think this is an attempt to reclassify paedophilia as just a normal sexual orientation because look, loads of men feel this way!

The Minor Attracted Persons movement never went away - in the 70s an organisation called the Paedophile Information Exchange even successfully managed to affiliate to the National Council of Civil Liberties. They used the heady winds of the post-war sexual revolution to attempt to insert themselves into respectable society, they now see another opportunity and have already hijacked parts of the LGBT movement (some of these perverts have even managed to attend Pride dressed as babies).

Expect more of these “studies”. The MAP movement has quite a vogue in academia - where paedophiles are seen as victims of society’s prejudice rather than as monsters - and there will be further attempts to soften us up for them.

I don’t think that it’s surprising that adult men are attracted to 15/16 year old girls. Anyone who has been a 15/16 year old girl knows that.

1900 involved in the study.... but where is the bit about those who would offend if secrecy was assured?

It’s strange how the older the men get, the more likely that they’d want to be with someone underage, what causes that? Don’t sexual urges slow down the older men get?

And boys..

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Millions of men would have sexual contact with a child if they were certain that no one would find out, research has suggested.

In a study involving 4,500 men from the UK, Australia and the United States by Edinburgh University’s “Childlight” child safety institute, more than one in 20 said they would have sexual contact with a child between the ages of ten and 14 if they knew it would be kept secret.

About one in seven (15 per cent) of those surveyed said they would consider sexual contact with a child if they were certain no one would find out. Researchers said the proportion “equates to millions of men across the three countries if applied to current population census data”.

Among British men, 1.6 per cent said they would “definitely” have sexual contact with 12 to 14-year-olds if it stayed a secret, and 2.6 per cent said it was “very likely”. The proportion was higher in Australia, and higher again in the United States.

It is estimated that one in four girls and one in five boys have been sexually abused, according to the International Society for the Prevention of Child Abuse and Neglect.

Paul Stanfield, chief executive of the child safety institute, said: “The research in this report shows some alarming trends in child sexual exploitation and abuse.
“It’s clear that governments and technology providers in particular simply aren’t doing enough to protect children, who in many instances are so young they can’t advocate for themselves.

“It is my hope that by shining a light on the nature of this abuse, as uncomfortable as it may be for some, we can drive tangible action that will protect children now and in the future. We can’t allow the inaction and indifference of those with the power to make real change to continue when the cost to children and indeed all of society is so great.”

This survey shows that men who admitted sexually offences against children online self-report being in denial that there is anything wrong with their behaviour and are at an increased risk of putting the blame on others.

The research, carried out in conjunction with the University of New South Wales in Australia, suggested that half of those adolescents in Europe, Africa and North America who experienced child sexual exploitation and abuse did so before their 13th birthday.

Researchers used representative samples of men with questions asked over an online platform. All participants were told the purpose of the study and that confidentiality was limited, leading researchers to suspect there may have been an under-reporting of abusive behaviours.

My bolding

Yes of course they would. Millions of men globally are xesual abusers.

Men as a group consistently demonstrate their belief in their entitlement to use other people's bodies. Men as a group are evidently happy to prioritise their own xesual satisfaction above all else.

The worldwide rape culture continues to exist because some men rape and other men understand why they do. They have created a society which largely protects rapists and ignores victims.

Some men choose not to be rapists, but so many men are comfortable with excusing predatory behaviour from their peers because they empathise and identify with it.

What's xesual?

I don't think this is a helpful take.

It's a serious problem that requires study. We can't just sweep it under the carpet and ignore it because we don't want to talk about it in case it's "normalised". That will only harm children in the long run.

Common also doesn't translate to "acceptable".

How do we identify and try to treat those who have paedophilic disorders if we don't study the phenomenon? If we want to keep children safe we need to understand the scale and the causes.

DNA testing reveals that incest (usually male relatives assaulting girls) is more common than previously believed.

Edit; Ugh, IDK what MN have done to that link.
<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20240318215510/www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2024/03/dna-tests-incest/677791" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://web.archive.org/web/20240318215510/www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2024/03/dna-tests-incest/677791/

I recently found out that two men in my building have been charged, found guilty and sacked for possession of child pornography, and one of them for making his own cp image. Both only got suspended sentences. More recently, someone in my own office, has been arrested, office searched etc,and the management won't let us talk about it. We assume CP as they won't tell us anything, except 'he' will be getting full welfare support. It's fkg disgusting and makes me think that it must be infinitely more rife than i assumed.

I agree it should be studied. I’m talking about the campaign to make paedophilia acceptable, which is under way and undeniable. It will be dressed up in the language of inclusion of course.

But we must maintain a clear and strong moral standard about this problem. In the political sphere there may be many things we can compromise on and be non-judgemental about. But child abuse isn’t one of them.

I think lots of bad shit would be done if anyone could be assured secrecy.

This isn’t surprising news sadly, studies have been done in the US yonks ago and are well published about how prevalent sexualised thinking towards children is in males, especially older males.

There are many bodies looking to source funding to get to the root of why this seems to be an issue seen impacted by age.

As someone who spends her days treating those with such preferences I can tell this thread is going to be full of the typical ignorance around the topic.

The whole of OP is almost word for word cut and paste from another forum

https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/new-study-millions-of-men-‘would-xesually-abuse-children-if-secrecy-was-assured’-—-the-times.5559439/

I'm assuming xesual is from that forum and that OP wanted to get this more widely shared.

The Times article is from last December

If anyone's interested, the actual paper is available here

https://www.humanrights.unsw.edu.au/news/worlds-largest-child-sexual-abuse-perpetration-prevalence-study-recommends-significant-investment-early-intervention-measures#:~:text=Released%20today%20by%20UNSW%20Sydney,children%20motivated%20to%20access%20help.

https://www.humanrights.unsw.edu.au/sites/default/files/documents/Identifying%20and%20understanding%20child%20sexual%20offending%20behaviour%20and%20attitudes%20among%20Australian%20men.pdf

I hope the age statistics are true, that hints at a societal change. However that will obviously hugely vary from country to country. I'm sure there are some countries where the figures would be far higher, and hopefully some where they would be lower.

Why’s that?

Unfortunately it doesn’t indicate societal change. As previous studies done 20+ years ago found the same

There are many universities and organisations actively funding for studies into why as men age their likelihood to think certain ways increases.

Can you honestly sit and write that with a straight face?

There are campaigns to make cheese illegal, doesn’t mean it’s going to happen.

@LadySlipper please don't use child porn, it is child sexual abuse, the child can not consent

@Iftheshoesfit I don't think @CaterhamReconstituted is a nutter, there is and has been a drive to normalise paedophilia.

I would like to know the "platform" used and the "representative" groups definitions as I don't believe its anywhere near that high. Reminds me of the university study that showed 99% of students had experienced an STD while attending school. No one believed it and looked into the numbers. Turns out they wanted notoriety and needed something shocking to put in the news so they pre-selected to get their headlines. Their definition of STD turned out to be "anything that could be transmitted through sexual contact - common cold, flu, etc.