Carole & Michael Middleton orchestrated children's future from birth?

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Aibu to think the Middleton's very single handedly claimed the social ladder seamlessly? All three children are wildly rich & accepted in the highest echleons of society. Aibu to think that was no accident but carefully mapped out from birth?

They've done the other threads to death 🙄

That bastion of reliable knowledge, Marie Claire. 🙄

Loads of people choose to defer, change uni, change course etc. No one knows what her 'dream course' was except her.
Even if this bollocks is true, no one forced him to date her, marry her etc. Let's imagine for just one minute that this was Carole's plan. It requires Catherine to go along with it, to be a massive manipulator extraordinaire, let alone the rest of the family. It's a full on tin foil hat wearing conspiracy.

Maybe it is just because my own education was not dissimilar that I can see how many flaws there are in this fantasy.

Exactly - if Carol is anywhere close to the successful Machiavellian schemer she’s painted as then what was she doing wasting her time with flogging party hats - she should be a billionaire arms dealer by now running the dark web and secretly making deals with China to take over the country and place her son-in-law as a new absolute monarch with a puppet government…. oh…. maybe that’s what they’ve been doing for the last few weeks!

It’s all about the animals. My little granddaughter 5 comes into my vet surgery on a weekend for pocket money and cuddles the animals on a weekend.
she going to marry wrek it “Louis” for sure he’s so like her 😂

Was Carole's mother not known locally as The Dutchess? I'll Google & see what I get. But I recall reading similar @Calliopespa

@Willnoonethinkofthebirds

I was at a boarding school myself. My parents had zero input into my university applications. My son is at one, I have had zero input into his. In both cases, because it is nothing to do with the parent, rather the person applying.
Ok but mine did. The schools got everyone to take their personal statements home to work on with parental help and sent newsletters out ensuring parents got involved in discussing universities and courses.

Sounds really weird that your school did none of this.

Aibu to think the Middleton's

Argh another one. Yes, the first 5 words say YABVVVVVVU!

https://www.theduchessdiary.com/14-times-carole-middleton-showed-winningest-mom-maternal-history/

@Calliopespa Carole's mums Dorothy Goldsmith's nickname was Lady Dorothy

Catherine isn't rich, her husband is.

Pippa isn't rich, her husband is.

James isn't rich, his in-laws are.

Not sure if even the most at socially ambitious family would aim for that, all a divorce away from far far less money and influence.

And an apostrophe, too!

Only in the same way that anyone who sends their children to private school, or moves to an expensive area in the catchment floor the best grammars, or pays for tutoring to make an RG more likely etc does. People tend to marry people from their social circle, if your children are privately educated, go to good universities etc they are more likely to meet others from similar backgrounds.

You mean they were good parents who gave their kids the best possible start in life? Yes, I agree.

You are not being unreasonable in thinking this.

Can you please provide further insight into this @penjil !@penjil, that's quite cryptic!

Who. TF. Cares.

But if it does turn out some day that it IS true, Catherine might either thank her mother or curse her mother to hell.
It’s certainly a double-edged sword.
Wonderful because of those darling children.
Abhorrent because of times like these and people like us.

Well done them. Their grandchildren will be OK even if their children aren't. In 15/20 years we'll be reading about the most ardent "wild child" though.

Marina Ogilvy was it?

Of all the crimes in the world to get exercised about you choose this?! Weird.

Of course. CM carefully planned a gap year to ensure Kate was in Williams cohort at St. Andrews.
Why Kate and not Pippa anyway? Wasn't she worthy or something? Obviously it would have been harder to orchestrate this relationship because of the age. CM would have been perfectly happy with either daughter becoming Queen (obviously) and had William rejected Kate, Pippa would have stepped up.

They certainly liked regal names

Catherine Elizabeth
Phillippa Charlotte
James William

They are classic names, used across all social classes for hundreds of years 🥴

It is sad really. People do not have anything else to do than sheer gossip

I don't think James married into money. His wife's father was working diplomat. I think they are solidly middle class. Could be wrong. Happy to be corrected.

Would you not say the majority of parents push/encourage their children to do well in life? I want mine to get good jobs, have nice friends and not struggle in anyway (they are not at private school). It goes without saying I want them to be happy more than anything and i’d say the Middleton parents have achieved that with their three children.

Im pretty sure they didn’t plan for Kate to marry the future king or Pippa to marry a billionaire! Sending them to private school will have obviously increased their chance of moving in the same circles as the people they married, but there’s no way they planned it.

I think we can all agree some things matter more than others, especially a subject where you’ll literally never know the truth of.

Is he the one that gets very upset about his dog? Feel sorry for his wife on that a man moping about his dog when you have a newborn would get old fast. I may be thinking of someone else to be fair but think it was him.

Loads of parents on here do that exact same thing! 😂

There are always threads from posters stressing because they’ve found a nice house in the right school catchment area but they’re worried because it’s only a street or two away from some poor people. They arrange ‘play dates’ for their DC with children of parents they deem to be socially acceptable and who they want to be friends with, rather than let their kids wander up and down the street and make their own friends. They enrol their DC in appropriate after school activities, have tutors and spend the school holidays trying to cram in trips to museums or theatres. They do competitive healthy lunch boxes and turn their noses up at anything that isn’t bursting with nutrients and/or from Waitrose. Toys aren’t bought because they’re fun. They’re bought because they’re made of wood so come with bragging rights about how environmentally aware little Cressida is. And speaking of Cressida, the anguish that goes into choosing a name, with Ancient Greek or Shakespearian names as a preference and shrieks of horror at any name that might be used by poor people.

What has she done that a million other middle class mums haven’t done, except maybe on a slightly grander scale?