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Carole & Michael Middleton orchestrated children's future from birth?

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Blueballoons1 · 16/03/2024 12:52

Aibu to think the Middleton's very single handedly claimed the social ladder seamlessly? All three children are wildly rich & accepted in the highest echleons of society. Aibu to think that was no accident but carefully mapped out from birth?

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LuluBlakey1 · 16/03/2024 17:52

'The business of her life was to get her daughters married.'

willWillSmithsmith · 16/03/2024 17:53

Seashor · 16/03/2024 13:56

But don’t we all do that to some degree? I’ve made sure that my children can ski, sail, surf, horse ride and wake board to at least a competent level.
For fun but also to fit in socially. Sounds snobby I know but I want them to have as many life chances as they can. Private school too, which makes a huge difference.

My kids went to private school and they’ve never done any of those things 😁

Honestly I just want them to end up with someone kind, honest and decent I really don’t care what their social standing is if they possess these traits.

tittybumbum · 16/03/2024 17:56

@Willnoonethinkofthebirds

Considering they were in the same class, in the same year, at the same university, how exactly do you think Carole Middleton knew where William was going, to be able to get her daughter to apply to the same place etc? Out of however many university offers, how did she know in advance which one needed to be accepted? Considering Catherine was at a boarding school, how did Carole even oversee her UCAS form?
I believe Kate is a year older than Will and was in the year ahead. She was planning to go to Edinburgh but changed at the last minute and dumped Edinburgh. Reapplied for St As.
Boarding dc still have parents that are involved in UCAS. Did you actually think they didn't?

penjil · 16/03/2024 17:58

The 3 children aren't really accepted into the upper echelons of world society....just certain parts of a particular British one.

penjil · 16/03/2024 18:00

willWillSmithsmith · 16/03/2024 17:53

My kids went to private school and they’ve never done any of those things 😁

Honestly I just want them to end up with someone kind, honest and decent I really don’t care what their social standing is if they possess these traits.

Honestly, that's one of the most beautiful things I've ever read. X

tittybumbum · 16/03/2024 18:01

@Willnoonethinkofthebirds

Carole & Michael Middleton orchestrated children's future from birth?
Theunamedcat · 16/03/2024 18:04

Don't be so ridiculous

VickyEadieofThigh · 16/03/2024 18:06

Feckin' nonsense.

MaloneyBaloney · 16/03/2024 18:09

pikkumyy77 · 16/03/2024 13:02

Oh who cares? This feels like a really useless form of deflection from understanding how class and privilege are ruining the UK.

This.

Monarchy is a giant pantomime. They are just people. A fairly mediocre, mildly dysfunctional bunch, similar to families found on any street in the UK.

The fact that we put these particular people on a pedestal and discuss them endlessly is shameful. The UK and its citizens deserve to move on from a system which perpetuates inequality and its resulting misery and wasted potential.

It's time to bin the lot of it. We need to mature as a country.

thebestinterest · 16/03/2024 18:11

Lots of parents do this, btw. Don’t you wish your folks had done it as well?

Alcyoneus · 16/03/2024 18:12

Didimum · 16/03/2024 12:53

There’s know way of knowing. Why does it matter either way?

Why does anything matter? It’s a forum called aibu where people their opinions.

thebestinterest · 16/03/2024 18:14

Blueballoons1 · 16/03/2024 13:15

Yes exactly. They ensured the kids had all the soft skills to fit in easily with the upper echleons.
Still doable these days if clever, parents who are clued in to what these soft skills actually are but it would cost a hell of a lot of money, lots of time & effort but most importantly compliant children

So what are the soft skills you think benefitted them?

Tinysoxxx · 16/03/2024 18:17

owlsinthedaylight · 16/03/2024 17:37

Thank you Mrs Norris 😁

yep feeling a Mrs Bennet vibe with this thread but a Mrs Norris quote will do.

Alchemistress · 16/03/2024 18:17

You do realise that a huge amount of girls in his year would have been throwing themselves at him?

If it hadn't been the Middletons you'd be spinning this narrative about another family.

I don't doubt that once he decided that he liked her she was vetted by the firm and seen to be malleable and grateful. But that could have been so many, many women.

OhMargaret · 16/03/2024 18:26

MojoMoon · 16/03/2024 13:04

If they did, then we should get them to put their incredible talents to running the country. The idea that you could plan and successfully execute a plan to have your baby daughter marry a royal 30 years later is ridiculous. This isn't a Disney film.

Would you feel better if she had been born into an aristocratic family?

They made a fair chunk of money, sent their children to elite boarding schools populated by other rich families so their children's social circle is rich. Their children then all married people from their social circles (which is what most people do).

Most people marry people of similar economic and educational backgrounds to themselves (assortive mating is the scientific term). In their case, that means marrying other rich people.

It's very, very rare for someone who is from a wealthy family, attended expensive private schools and selective universities to marry someone from a poor family in a poor area with no further education.

Actually, anecdotally, I'm always surprised how many of these women who went to elite boarding schools (Marlborough, Cheltenham, Benenden etc.) don't end up marrying rich men. I work with quite a few of them and it's very hit and miss as far I can tell. Lots of them are single or dating men who aren't remotely in those circles - I'm not talking bin men but not guys from the same elite schools. I think looks are a big factor and in Pippa's case, probably proximity to the royals.

Notjustabrunette · 16/03/2024 18:29

A lot of people send their kids to boarding schools for the connections, rather than for the education. The Middleton’s did this, as do many other families. Looks like it worked.

VestibuleVirgin · 16/03/2024 18:34

Have you been watching Mary & George by any chance @Blueballoons1 ?
Such intrigue. Such machinations...

PyongyangKipperbang · 16/03/2024 18:45

They wouldnt be the first and they wont be the last.

You seen on MN all the time of people who can afford to move areas so their kids can go to a better school or be in catchment for a grammar. The ones who cant have to make do with the "lesser" school. They just had the money to do it bigger.

The best schools, the best uni's, brown nosing with business contacts to get to know the right people......we all know it happens. Nepo babies are not a myth!

I think that probably yes they did make certain decisions in order to put their children in the absolutely best position they could to be successful and meet the right people. Maybe Carole did always have PoW on her radar as a husband for one of her DD's, who knows, but either way I do think that as parents they simply did their best to get their kids to top of the pile and I refuse to believe that we all wouldnt do that for our kids if we could.

EdithWeston · 16/03/2024 18:45

IncessantNameChanger · 16/03/2024 17:02

One of your girls marries the heir then the rest will all do well surely?

My dd is stunning and very bright but we are mere plebs so not many people could replicate that kind of socail climbing. Would not want to be Kate or Megan. You sell your soul to the public

Like the Gunning sisters in the early 1800s?

Who were barely respectable (Irish actors) but took London by storm and married well - Elizabeth becoming the Duchess of Argyll and Maria the Countess of Coventry

Ihadenough22 · 16/03/2024 18:48

My feeling is that both of Kate's parents worked hard for years to get to their position. Then they previous wealth from another generation set up a trust fund for educating their children so they could pick and pay for some good schools for their children.
They moved Kate from one school to another school due to bullying at one stage.
My feeling is that Kate comes across as a capable woman who worked hard and did well at school and mixed with decent crowd as she grew up. She a confident woman with good soft skills and has the natural ability to mix with people.
Her parents spent time with her, brought her to say sports ect. She grew up in a secure and happy home also.
They wanted her to get a good education, mix with decent crowd of people, get a good job and marry well.

The truth is that her mother could not arrange for Kate to meet William and for them to end up as a couple. Kate's parents sent her to good schools, got to know her friends and encouraged her to be sporty as well. Kate was not going to end up living with a dole Darren in a rough housing estate on benefits.

Allthatwegotisthispalebluedot · 16/03/2024 18:48

mardylookingfrump · 16/03/2024 16:16

He also had a cake business that would print photos on the top. We got one with Josef Fritzl just to see if he’d do it, thought about alerting the Daily Mail to it, decided not to bother.

@mardylookingfrump did you eat the Josef Fritzl cake? Was it nice?

Fairyliz · 16/03/2024 18:51

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 16/03/2024 13:59

FFS- are people really this stupid?

Unfortunately yes 😂

olivehaters · 16/03/2024 18:52

Kates siblings were always going to have an easy ride once Kate Married Will. Nothing to do with their planning!

WhileIBreathIHope · 16/03/2024 18:56

DinaofCloud9 · 16/03/2024 12:55

Even if they did try there was no guarantee that William would want to be with Kate.

I'm sure a lot of people had the same idea when it was announced what university William was going to.

Lots of people did have the same idea. I live in Scotland and applied to St Andrews the year William was starting. I didn’t plan to go, but was just filling a spot on my UCAS form. It held my form up for weeks as they were inundated with applicants and I got a conditional offer in a subject for which I should have been a shoo in.

Calliopespa · 16/03/2024 19:02

owlsinthedaylight · 16/03/2024 15:01

Nope. Deadly serious!

It cannot be, surely.

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