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Carole & Michael Middleton orchestrated children's future from birth?

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Blueballoons1 · 16/03/2024 12:52

Aibu to think the Middleton's very single handedly claimed the social ladder seamlessly? All three children are wildly rich & accepted in the highest echleons of society. Aibu to think that was no accident but carefully mapped out from birth?

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minipie · 16/03/2024 16:34

But I guess it’s kind of normal here?

It really isn’t! I’m sure every country has its (small) share of social climbers, you just happened to meet a British one.

tittybumbum · 16/03/2024 16:53

@Blueballoons1
He had a marshmallow business called Boompf (something to that effect) that actually went Boompf now he's breeding Cocker Spaniels..

So hardly 'wildly rich' then. I think his wife has a good job but hardly the same as the blokes the girls married.
I wonder if the pressure to perform damaged him. He struggles with mental health issues.

blueshoes · 16/03/2024 16:54

It could have been Rose Hanbury. But why not?

luckylavender · 16/03/2024 16:55

Blueballoons1 · 16/03/2024 13:00

I've just finished the Crown & Carole really was portrayed as the brains begin the operation.

The Crown is fiction. You know that right?

Sonora25 · 16/03/2024 16:59

Blueballoons1 · 16/03/2024 13:32

@LifeExperience I fully believe that they put the kids into the "right" activities for social advancement.

A lot of people do all over the country.
as for the rest that’s nonsense.

IncessantNameChanger · 16/03/2024 17:02

One of your girls marries the heir then the rest will all do well surely?

My dd is stunning and very bright but we are mere plebs so not many people could replicate that kind of socail climbing. Would not want to be Kate or Megan. You sell your soul to the public

FaiIureToLunch · 16/03/2024 17:07

I never get these breathlessly gormless threads

Michael Middleton is from an aristocratic background. Hence being able to afford Marlborough. And meet other posh folk. if anybody married up, it was Carole!

everlastingpanini · 16/03/2024 17:08

It;s almost like the RF have no built in radar for social climbers and graspers.

And that mere 'wanting it to be so' can do anything for anyone.

If 'wanting it to be so' were an actual thing I'd be an Olympic gold medallist in showjupoing and married to Andrew Hoy. And my DSis would be married to Timothee Chamele-wotsitsz

CountAlmaviva · 16/03/2024 17:10

You do know the Crown on tv is fictional

AngelinaFibres · 16/03/2024 17:12

Blueballoons1 · 16/03/2024 14:01

Yes @Seashor that is exactly it. It widens their social circles & experiences. The Middleton's knew what they were doing all those years back but I think to achieve this now is nearly impossible due to the cost of living crisis.

The cost of living crisis isn't affecting everyone.

Staringatthewalls · 16/03/2024 17:14

benjoin · 16/03/2024 12:56

Yeah my mum did but I didn't listen

Same!!! She then said ‘maybe your sister will marry Prince Harry then’!!!

Kimmeridge · 16/03/2024 17:14

And here we have a strong contender for today's batshit crazy royal thread.

I've never hidden so many threads on here as I have in the past week or sp

Boomer55 · 16/03/2024 17:15

The Middletons were known, locally, as the Wisteria's - forever climbing. 🙂

Dahliasrule · 16/03/2024 17:16

Blueballoons1 · 16/03/2024 13:32

@LifeExperience I fully believe that they put the kids into the "right" activities for social advancement.

You are probably right. I am surprised though no horse riding was included.

Iagrewithhim · 16/03/2024 17:16

Kimmeridge · 16/03/2024 17:14

And here we have a strong contender for today's batshit crazy royal thread.

I've never hidden so many threads on here as I have in the past week or sp

why hide them though? It's a useful insight into the concept of 'they who walk amongst us'.

hotpotlover · 16/03/2024 17:16

I think being in the right place at the right time and also being very attractive and his type helped bagging Prince William.

I don't think they engineered the marriage, I think they just wanted better for their children.

We all do that some degree within our capabilities - we put money away each month for the kids to help them with house deposits when they are older.

But apart from the money, do you really envy Kate's life? I certainly don't

LuluBlakey1 · 16/03/2024 17:26

Blueballoons1 · 16/03/2024 13:32

@LifeExperience I fully believe that they put the kids into the "right" activities for social advancement.

They were earning lots of money and the children's education was paid for from a trust fund in the wider Middleton family left for that purpose by a grand or great grandparent of Micheal Middleton. What would you have expected them to do- choose a failing comp in a rough area instead? To live in an ex-council estate in Slough?

If you have access to the amount if money they had access to you move somewhere very nice and do your best for your children. It puts them in the company of other wealthy, educated people and that becomes their way of life. They could have chosen to be rich and flash and tacky but they are far too reserved for that.

Good on them I say. I'm delighted that Prince George has a miner who lived in Byker as a great-great-great grandfather.

Tinysoxxx · 16/03/2024 17:28

Blueballoons1 · 16/03/2024 14:01

Yes @Seashor that is exactly it. It widens their social circles & experiences. The Middleton's knew what they were doing all those years back but I think to achieve this now is nearly impossible due to the cost of living crisis.

Give a girl an education and introduce her properly into the world, and ten to one but she has the means of settling well, without further expense to anybody.

Calliopespa · 16/03/2024 17:32

Blueballoons1 · 16/03/2024 12:57

I feel there is no way that parents could mange this level of social claiming these days even if the determination was there. Personally I find it really fascinating.

I think it might go back even further , which is where the momentum generated. I heard/ read/saw something ( and I’m sorry I don’t remember what, but remember the salient bit) to the effect that Carole’s mum had high ambitions for her daughter ( something about pushing her round the neighbourhood in a markedly more upmarket pram than others rings a bell). Marrying as she did was an aspirational marriage as I understand it, so it’s been a two generation ambition rather than a single generation process- which seems more plausible. Not judging, just mentioning because it was so on point with the question in this thread.

Willnoonethinkofthebirds · 16/03/2024 17:33

Blueballoons1 · 16/03/2024 14:32

But it was a local private prep not one of the very elitists like Lambrook or Thomas's where Kate's children go.

So not a local primary then. 🙄

How are you measuring elite? The fees for Lambrook and St Andrews are on a par. They are both in pleasant parts of Berkshire. Alumni of Lambrook are not exactly overwhelming, particularly recently.

Considering they were in the same class, in the same year, at the same university, how exactly do you think Carole Middleton knew where William was going, to be able to get her daughter to apply to the same place etc? Out of however many university offers, how did she know in advance which one needed to be accepted? Considering Catherine was at a boarding school, how did Carole even oversee her UCAS form?

Completely la-la.

BedRot · 16/03/2024 17:33

The final season of the Crown was such a let down.

separately, I was at St Andrews at the same time as PW and it was feeling with women who had clearly gone there to meet him.

BedRot · 16/03/2024 17:33

*crawling

owlsinthedaylight · 16/03/2024 17:37

Tinysoxxx · 16/03/2024 17:28

Give a girl an education and introduce her properly into the world, and ten to one but she has the means of settling well, without further expense to anybody.

Thank you Mrs Norris 😁

Miri13 · 16/03/2024 17:42

So what if they did. Doesn’t every parent want the best for their children. If you’ve got the means to do so, why not. I think well done them if that’s what the planned all along.

GreyCarpet · 16/03/2024 17:49

I think it's kinda cute that the OP thinks that the families who send their children to these schools are affected in any way by the cost of living crisis.