To think this is outdated and needs to be removed?

[ballybean]

My son's school has an all glass isolation room in the hall with three desks, children are put there as punishment? Teachers and students walking passed

Lots of people work in offices with glass walls/doors.

If it is a small plastic box like a David Blaine escape, ok that isn’t great. If it is a room with a glass wall partition like this, which frankly sounds far more likely, no I can’t see any problem whatsoever with that.

This is hilarious! Workplaces are full of glass boxes with furniture in them. They're called 'meeting rooms', 'pods', or 'offices'.

Ok you want it removed in your drip feeding way what do you want us to do about it?

I agree with you, OP.

It is reminiscent of the dunce's cap.

Constant surveillance involves the complete loss of privacy. It's inhumane.

Hmm I wonder if its same school as my children go to.
They have this in their hall, not visable from corridors and not used if other things are happening in the hall.
It has actually worked well in stopping misbehaviour in classes because yes it's embarrassing for those in them but actually makes them refect on their behaviour and consequences.
To get sent to work in them though they have to be warned several times, repeated defiance etc is not just any small misbehaviour that causes them to end up there, those that do are seriously disturbing other students work and teachers have have such little power these days they have to be careful but if it works then I'm in agreement as are most other parents I know at the school.

It is utterly humiliating and massively goes against trauma-informed practice. You don't make people do better by treating them badly.

@ballybean

Ah bless them pupils who bully or disrupt other pupils in the classrooms and make lessons a mental and emotional endurance tests for everyone concerned including the teachers,

Ah i see you expect all teachers to be combination of a support worker's and social workers too,

Ah i see it's all about a mumsnet thread about how hard life must be for pupils who disrupt and create havoc mayhem in the classrooms,

Ah no understanding how this impacts on other pupils and how it can affect them too,

funny how this is in aibu vs education.
i fully believe an area where a student or a group of students can be observed without the need of 1-1 staff OR equally where a 1-1 staff can work with a student without fear of the meeting being found inappropriate could be a beneficial use of space.
i can't really see putting violent students in a glass room as ever appropriate.
although the op might think she knows what the space is used for, i would ask because it may simply be a multipurpose space.

@ballybean Ah bless those pupils who disrupt any classroom sessions cause they are bored and fed up

Ah bless 🙌 them
Isolation rooms Ah my god it's such a barbaric idea,

Ah we should all hug a disruptive pupil or and a school Bully ,

And be sympathetic and understanding 100 💯 per cent

even if it means its detrimental to other pupils learning or and mental health too

Ah it's so easy be so judgemental and set up mumsnet thread like this very one on here,
.when you don't have bloody clue about the realities of what it's like to have to put up with disruptive pupils and mayhem havoc they create,

Ah bless 🙌 let's set up # be kind 😇 and be a Saints too,
Bless all disruptive pupils out there and carry your mischievous sense of fun and havoc and chaos it's time honoured traditions that there are at least one or two disruptive pupils carry the baton for this kind of behaviour,

Isn't that so @ballybean ?

I'd check with the school and get a full explanation of what the area is used for and when, your child's description may not be an accurate account.
You say it's used for small misbehaviours, messy around etc but that there are only 3 desks. So how does that work in school with around 1000+ students 🤔 there would be a long queue!

People who misbehave should be made to feel ashamed of doing the wrong thing. Shielding children from all negative emotions, and from the consequences of their own actions is not helping them in the long run.

If you act like a twat in class, you should be bloody embarrassed!

@CurlsnSunshinetime4tea @VivienneDelacroix

At least in glass room isolation room a teacher can not be wrongly accused of inappropriate behaviour at all
everyone can see what's going on there,

Also pupil who disrupts the entire classroom and creates mayhem chaos wherever they do so, whether bullying or whatever,

can be taking out of that situation immediately, to the relief of everyone,
instead of causing distress to other pupils and upsetting the dynamics of classroom to other pupils mental health detriment,
which has severely affected by lockdowns and covid,

Also disruptive pupil can have time to reflect on their disruptive behaviour and calm down..

@cerisepanther73 i fully agree, equally a student that needs to complete work outside of class (not punishment) a group of students that need to work on a project together or students requesting to leave the class but who want to work have a place to work (those students that use to be sent to the library or cafeteria).

i can see this as being a useful multipurpose space.

@Ilikegreenshoes

Hurray hear hear someone finally talking sense here,🥳

Nottalking utter bullshit 💩💩💩💩💩like other posters such as @ballybean & @CurlsnSunshinetime4tea &@VivienneDelacroix 🤪🤪🤪
on this mumsnet thread..

sorry @cerisepanther73 why is me saying that such a space could have beneficial multipurpose use utter bs?

What a refreshing change to hear someone talking insightful sense finally, on this mumsnet thread such as @Ilikegreenshoes,

Instead of the utter bullshit talk 💩💩💩💩💩
of @ballybean & @CurlsnSunshinetime4tea &@VivienneDelacroix

Ah sorry
I didn't read your other mumsnet threads too @CurlsnSunshinetime4tea

Yes i think it's a good idea to have glass room space as a multi purpose room aswell...

Literally any of the sanctions used in schools that don't put naughty children in glass fishbowls...which is to say, basically all other schools in the country.

I have an idea, everyone. The next time this incredibly caring carer is caught speeding in his car, he should have to stand outside for a period of no less than 6 hours, wearing a dunce cap and signboard detailing his offense.

I can't see why they'd mind, since they have nothing to worry about if they just drive at the correct speed.

Yabu to spell past as passed. The box doesn't sound great, but it is probably a good deterrent to bad behaviour, so I'd trust the school's decision on it.

Smacking and sat in a room with a desk are very different things OP 😂

It sounds barbaric and I can't believe so many mums are ok with this.

I think they’re a good idea. Can’t see anything wrong with it. I don't imagine they are locked in for weeks with only stale bread lobbed in occasionally. Not exactly punitive.

It’s hardly corporal punishment is it? Wild idea but perhaps if the kids don’t like being in the box then they shouldn’t misbehave in class. This is a very tame. You need to toughen up rather than validating your child’s disruptive behaviour. Do you even discipline your child?