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ballybean · 14/03/2024 23:49

My son's school has an all glass isolation room in the hall with three desks, children are put there as punishment? Teachers and students walking passed

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Grah · 17/03/2024 19:36

ballybean · 14/03/2024 23:59

I think it's humiliating for them. They aren't put there because they are a danger. They are put there if messing in class, distracting others etc

So if they behave and follow school rules, they are not put in there? 🤔 You know what I'd say to my kids in that case? "Don't be disruptive, spoil your education, the education of others in your class, and the teacher's lesson. Then you won't get put in there. Simples!!'
Suppose you want them to have a day out or a treat? 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️No wonder teacher's are leaving in droves with this attitude from lily livered parents.

WhereIsBebèsChambre · 17/03/2024 19:46

GoodnightAdeline · 17/03/2024 18:24

What’s with flipping tables all of a sudden? I never witnessed this once at school, throughout the whole 14 years. Now it seems to be a daily occurrence.

It's now known as 'big feelings' and requires mollycoddling, blaming others, and lovely treats, NOT being told its unacceptable!

cottoncandy260 · 17/03/2024 20:13

WhereIsBebèsChambre · 17/03/2024 19:46

It's now known as 'big feelings' and requires mollycoddling, blaming others, and lovely treats, NOT being told its unacceptable!

Edited

You really haven’t stepped inside a school since you were 16, have you?

WhereIsBebèsChambre · 17/03/2024 20:24

cottoncandy260 · 17/03/2024 20:13

You really haven’t stepped inside a school since you were 16, have you?

I do hope you realise I was being facetious... or do you think pupils today should behave with impunity?

Mh67 · 17/03/2024 20:54

It would be a fantastic insensitive for kids to behave.

cottoncandy260 · 17/03/2024 21:07

WhereIsBebèsChambre · 17/03/2024 20:24

I do hope you realise I was being facetious... or do you think pupils today should behave with impunity?

Of course I don’t. Your ‘facetious’ comment just had an air of school blaming about it. Like all the teachers just sit around letting the kids misbehave because we think the behaviour is entirely appropriate and there should be no consequences.

WhereIsBebèsChambre · 17/03/2024 21:14

@cottoncandy260 absolutely not. It's the parents and bloody mollycoddlers who are creating chaos NOT the over worked underpaid teaching staff who are barely allowed to teach and are expected to be counsellors, best buds, scapegoats etc!

CutthroatDruTheViolent · 18/03/2024 10:33

cottoncandy260 · 16/03/2024 20:58

Absolutely.

Unfortunately the things that work - 1:1 relationship building, parental therapy, mediation, restorative justice, smaller class sizes, trained and qualified SEN/nurture teachers etc etc - all take time, money and resources. Things that our cash-strapped, staff limited schools simply don’t have.

Isolation booths are a quick, ineffective short term fix that solve nothing.

But they so solve something. They solve the immediate issue of potentially 29 other children having to forgo their own education because of one very disruptive person.

I don't disagree with you about the things that should be happening - but there is a reality here that this cannot be supported.

Two of my children are already in lower sets, struggling with dyslexia, and adding in a disruptive class (and no regular teacher - another issue) just means that they're more likely to come out of school with very low GCSEs. It worries me. And sorry, while I care in the abstract that the disruptive children probably have difficulty home lives etc. I have my own children and their futures and lives to worry about too. I don't see why their needs are lower down because they aren't the squeaky wheel.

northernbeee · 18/03/2024 11:43

And this is exactly why this world is going to sh*t!! Children don't seem to realise that actions have consequences, because it doesn't happen at home anymore! Misbehave in class, go sit in the glass room - don't want to sit in the glass room, don't misbehave!

DisabledDemon · 19/03/2024 01:10

ballybean · 14/03/2024 23:49

My son's school has an all glass isolation room in the hall with three desks, children are put there as punishment? Teachers and students walking passed

Gee, I don't know .. ever thought they should simply, I don't know, behave themselves?

Having taught in mainstream schools, I can tell you that this is quite mild. They're not being excluded. They're not being sent off to PRUs. Oh dear me, they're in an area that may be easily observed, how awful.

CowboyJoanna · 27/03/2024 17:54

WhiteLily1 · 15/03/2024 12:24

No child should EVER be deliberately and purposefully humiliated no matter what they’ve done or how much they are a ‘little shit’
What’s the matter with you?

The matter with me is that I don't spoil my kids rotten unlike you apparently

OfTheNight · 27/03/2024 19:17

They’re ok to misbehave in front of everyone though? They’re fine with stuff like bullying peers, damaging property, physically and verbally abusing other students and staff. That’s fine to do publicly. It’s just the punishment that’s not ok?

Papyrophile · 27/03/2024 20:46

@northernbeee , until actions DO have consequences, fast and unpleasant ones, then kids will take the risk and the piss. Better applauded by your peers than respected by your teachers.

Papyrophile · 27/03/2024 21:11

That needs to change, quick-time.

Edited to alter the mood of my previous post.

Nantescalling · 22/04/2024 18:41

MrsPerfect12 · 15/03/2024 00:03

This

This too!

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