To think this is outdated and needs to be removed?

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My son's school has an all glass isolation room in the hall with three desks, children are put there as punishment? Teachers and students walking passed

I think the best teachers who students behave better for are the ones that respect the kids and are not just throwing out punishments left right and centre.

A teacher can have respect for the kids and still hand put a lot of sanctions if that is what is necessary. I've taught in schools where I've handed out lots of sanctions and schools where I've handed out virtually none. It wasn't me that was different. I didn't become more respectful or less respectful of kids. It was the amount of poor behaviour that caused the difference in the number of sanctions.

There's no need to be bitchy at me. I'm just another parent trying to navigate the teens years. My children are juvinile offenders. They are reasonably good kids. They don't drink, they come home on time, they are respectful at home, obviously not all the time. They fuck up just like adults do

Aren't juvinile offenders

I haven't said my kids shouldn't be sanctioned. You sound like a great teacher who doesn't write them all off as little shits if they mess up

Behave themselves and they won’t have to go in it then

I think the best teachers who students behave better for are the ones that respect the kids and are not just throwing out punishments left right and centre.

As a serial classroom disrupter, answerer back'er I have to agree with this. The three or four teachers that actually gave me the time of day instead of being judgemental about my character got the very best out of me. They took (a very small amount, it doesn't take much) time to make a connection with me on a level and didn't act all holier than thou and righteous. I felt respected, so I respected them back.
The sneery, trying to make you look stupid, teachers got the worst wrath. They never heard the end of it from me once I'd got started.
The glass room would have done nothing for me.

Is there a possibility that your friends may just reflect off your reaction to it, agree as it is a non issue to them to not rock the boat? You will always get frank views when they are anonymous.

It worked for the evil kids who made my child suicidal.

Never heard of this example before. Modern version of the stocks eh! Without the physical misiles.

Never heard of anything like this before. An updated version of the stocks, without the missiles. Finding out the causes of disruption in children is much more productive than putting them in a glass box. In this modern age there are I would think much better ways of dealing with these issues.

Just a thought why don't we find out why pupils misbehave not all are sen and adhd not that you would think that on here, but what is happening at home

Looking back can you not see you were looking for special treatment? That it's not practicable for a teacher to make a personal connection with each of 300 or so pupils they see in the course of a week and still teach the volume of content that they are required to teach. I know some teachers do, but that's an exceptional level of interpersonal skill that you couldn't realistically expect from everyone.

The panopticon effect is about the effect of the internalised gaze on regulating behaviour - if someone feels they are being constantly watched they behave better and follow the rules, even when they are not actually being watched. It is one of the many reasons the police use cctv in city centres not just to catch people who behave badly but also as a deterrent.

Another example of the barbaric glass box. In the last school I worked in it was only SLT who worked in such monstrously cruel environments. I’ve worked in them myself. If you actually call the glass box a windowed office, which is what it is, perhaps it would be less provocative.

Christ, there are some complete and utter wet wipes on this thread.

If they want to have this in my kid’s school, it’s fine with me. I remember being at school and having lesson after lesson ruined by the same 5 shitty boys.

To be honest I think it's great. I'm fucking sick of dickhead kids ruling the roost. How about let the kids who want to learn come first for once.

This was my e school experience. It was the same group in every single lesson. They just couldn't shut up for ten minutes to let the teacher teach and everybody else learn.

Why does the education system revolve around these kids and not the 26+ kids that want to learn?

I'm all for isolating them and, if they still don't improve their behaviour, shipping them out to a specialist dunce school.

Society has become a gigantic life support system for people who are frankly black holes of ‘need’ - people who are offered chance after chance and have endless resources thrown after them, but they couldn’t give a fuck and just feel emboldened by the soft touch, supported by those who insist they need even MORE resources to change.

They’re a lost cause, they’re dragging us all down. I don’t really care what happens to them, I just care that those of us who behave responsibly and decently can live our lives in peace.

But we can’t personally intervene and save everyone. It wouldn’t even work. If a kid is being brought up badly and is backed by their useless parents what can we actually do about that?

No not really. I couldn't abide eye rolling, sarcastic, egotistical, control freaky teachers.
If we were spoken to like humans, given the level of respect other people were afforded, then all was good, not shouted at degraded, belittled or made fun of.
If I saw a teacher treating anyone unfairly - not me I hasten to add - it could have been any other pupil or staff, in or out of the class, or speak in a derogatory or sexist or racist way - I instantly hated them forever. I couldn't get past it.

endless resources thrown after them

Rubbish. There are no resources. There are barely any resources even for those that really need them.

But YOU weren’t affording anyone any respect.

Not rubbish. There’s less than there was individually as we now have so many individuals with ‘needs’, but not less overall. The public are needier than ever.

Teachers that were respectful got my full respect, my full attention and a good standard of work.

Literally thousands of children's centres have closed in the last 14 years, Surestart doesn't exist. Youth services don't exist.
Family and children support services have gone down the pan. There are no government led early years, children or family intervention schemes anymore, just the odd charity trying to help.
What support are you talking about?