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To hate MIL wearing shoes in my house?!

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Mudonstairs · 14/03/2024 10:14

I love my MIL to pieces. She does so much for me and us as a family. She comes round several times per week and stays with us to help us with childcare for our 20 month old DC. She is a true blessing and we would be so much worse off without her help.

However, she keeps her shoes on in our house from morning until she goes to bed. Whether she is going out or not, those shoes will go on her feet as soon as she gets dressed in the morning upstairs, and if she’s been out and it’s been raining or whatever she doesn’t take them off when she comes back in! My husband and I find this bizarre as we don’t wear shoes in our house. Shoes go on as and when we are about to leave the house and straight off in the hallway when we arrive home.

We recently had our carpet cleaned in only one part of the house (all we could afford) and DH told her we are trying to not wear shoes in the house to keep the carpets clean. He explained that DC likes to play on the floor with his toys etc so we don’t want remnants of dog muck and whatever else trailed through the house (dog muck is a real issue in our neighbourhood, it’s everywhere and you can’t always avoid it)! He has in the past also commented to her several times that he thinks it’s strange that she keeps her shoes on in the house and that it is unhygienic.

She has her own slippers at our house that she chose herself when we were out shopping together but she doesn’t wear them. I am getting annoyed now that I work full time and i don’t have the time to go around the house after my MIL and clean up the specks of dirt she leaves around the house, including up the stairs and in the bathroom. We also can’t keep affording a professional carpet clean regularly and tbh I begrudge having this expense when it’s easily avoidable! I am from a culture where people take their shoes off at home so it is absolutely ludicrous to me that she relaxes at home with her bloody boots/shoes on all day and night no matter what. She does this in her own home too but fair enough if she is comfortable in her own place that’s her business, just hate it at my house.

I don’t want to make a big thing of it as she does so much for us and I don’t want to sound ungrateful or upset her, but seeing as we have already told her before I don’t know how to deal with it in a way that won’t be a big thing anyway. It is having an affect on the overall look of the house and it’s starting to get me down. We can’t afford to decorate so I think the only thing I hold onto is that when it’s had a good clean the place looks nice, but it’s starting not to anymore!

YABU- shut up and let the woman do what she likes. She gives you free childcare so you don’t have a right to complain! Shoes at home is normal!

YANBU- shoes in the house is unhygienic and she needs to stop wearing them in the house. Shoes at home is not normal!

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Mudonstairs · 14/03/2024 14:16

iwafs · 14/03/2024 12:52

Can you buy her a proper pair of shoes (maybe a duplicate of ones she already has) and ask her to wear the clean shoes in your house? She can still wear shoes and your home won't be impacted. I know one person who has a shoes on house and everyone else is shoes off. The one with shoes on has a big house with a housekeeper that cleans everything all the time.

I could do, I just hate to seem like the overbearing DIL. I have put my foot down about very few things but when I do she knows it’s my decision because DH usually says nothing until problems arise. I don’t know if she has forgiven me for putting my foot down when she put DC in a forward facing car seat and I explained that rear facing is much safer and he should only be put in the car seat we provided. She naturally obliged, but I think she thinks I’m picky and a ‘worrier’ already because of instances like this.

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Mudonstairs · 14/03/2024 14:19

PansyOatZebra · 14/03/2024 12:54

Yanbu

Could you get her some more sturdy slippers for the house? My mum has narrow feet and struggles with shoes with no support so she has a pair of Birkenstocks that she wears in the house.

Maybe. I think I’m cringing more at bringing the conversation up tbh!

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Geebray · 14/03/2024 14:20

WatchandWaitorNot · 14/03/2024 14:15

You’re right, my hob does get really upset when I disrespect it! It told the dishwasher and now all the appliances are in a huff, I can’t get a thing done!

What you've got there is a bitchin' kitchen

Wexone · 14/03/2024 14:21

Mudonstairs · 14/03/2024 14:08

Ok but I have to use a hob to cook, and I use mine as respectfully as I can. I try to minimise the mess by being careful and not splashing food all over the place. The same care can be applied to carpets if shoes are taken off. It would minimise the build up of dirt.

I would also want to teach my DC how to play. There are times when messy play is fine but that doesn’t mean being careless or not making an effort to minimise mess.

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but you can't control the mess. some things are beyond your control. kids are messy it's going to happen a times you can't control or minimise. your mother in law does so much for you. you see loads of threads on this site about no help from families and parents not getting a break. live with the mess for the sake of a good relationship. I am speaking as someone who grew up with a mother fully intended on a clean house perfectly. wasn't a shoes off house but floors were hoovered and washed every day. watching you as yoi do things incase made a mess. dishes couldn't be left in sink for more than two mins no had to be washed and put away. even now as she is her mid 60s can't sit still has to be cleaning. so I don't visit much as can't bear it. runing after me in the hall as i leave mopping the floor. I have learned to relax a bit with my cleaning life is too short. pick your battles

Notthatcatagain · 14/03/2024 14:21

I shudder every time someone comes into my home and takes their shoes off, especially in the summer when they have no socks on. I have a basket of slippers in the hall but the only person who ever uses them is my cleaner who is very glad not to have to carry her own. Whenever I go to a no shoes house, I politely remove mine then struggle to walk without them because I have foot problems. Everyone knows this but no one ever says that it's OK to keep my shoes on

Mudonstairs · 14/03/2024 14:22

BreatheAndFocus · 14/03/2024 12:59

YANBU and I don’t think it’s a cultural thing. I can only think of one friend who doesn’t take their shoes off indoors. All my family and every other friend does. It’s just automatic.

I don’t think it’s a fear of germs either. Many people simply don’t like the idea of outdoor dirt indoors. For those who don’t take your shoes off, where’s your line? Would you walk in the door with your shoes on, walk upstairs and stand on your bed to reach something from a high cupboard? If not, well you can see a bit of how shoes-off people feel.

For your MIL, OP, you’re going to have to be more direct. Don’t dance around it. “MIL, we don’t have shoes on at all in the house now. I’ve put your slippers out for you and we have a seat here for people who need to sit down to take their shoes off. Nobody wears shoes in this house.” Then remind her every single time. A subtle way of reminding her is to puta ‘just removed’ pair of shoes inside the door basically in her way, so she sees them/moves them and is reminded that it’s shoes off.

My shoes, DH’s shoes and my little DC’s tiny shoes are sitting by the door. It hasn’t prompted her so far! 😂

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Mudonstairs · 14/03/2024 14:24

BlueFlint · 14/03/2024 13:01

I'm with you OP. Wearing outdoor shoes around the house, especially on carpet, is so gross, can't believe so many people are defending it (mobility issues aside of course)!

I think you just have to ask your husband to tell her, kindly but firmly, that she needs to take her shoes off. She can have special house shoes or whatever else (you could offer to buy these if feeling generous). But ultimately this is just going to be a slightly uncomfortable conversation that has to be had. It's your house! Maybe you could tell a little white lie and say someone tracked dog poo in recently, hence the sudden blanket rule change??

I come from a muddy dogs and gumboots sort of home and my housekeeping standards are pretty lax but would still never dream of wandering around with my shoes on indoors!

See my previous comment. A real life story did actually happen recently where poo had made it into the house and I told her this story. Still no change!

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Whoknowsohyoudo · 14/03/2024 14:27

My DH was a plumber in his early days he had what looked like a large tissue box that you put your foot in and it would snap a cover over your shoe. Get her one of those at the front door. She keeps her shoes you keep a clean home. I also hate shoes in the house op

Mudonstairs · 14/03/2024 14:30

Bluegray2 · 14/03/2024 13:14

How does your husband find it bizarre, he grew up with this woman so obviously she was like this right through his childhood?

You go around after her cleaning up SPECKS of dirt, if you have time to look for specks if dirt you have too much time on your hands

Its rude to ask guests to change their shoes in a house,

Generations of people were brought up in houses where shoes were worn in houses and managed to be absolutely fine

He grew up with her and thought it so bizarre that he never wore shoes in his home himself, but funnily enough he wasn’t going to tell his mother how she should behave in her own house. Now however, the shoe is on the other foot! No pun intended 😂

As mentioned in my previous update. I’m not looking for specks but if I walk into the bathroom and see specks/little clumps of mud they have to be wiped up. I’m not about to ignore and pretend I never saw it 🤷🏻‍♀️

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TonTonMacoute · 14/03/2024 14:31

I don't Think you have to make a 'big thing' about it, but you obviously haven't got across to her how important this is for you.

You've asked her not to, she has ignored you and you've let her get away with it so maybe she thinks it doesn't really matter.

I do think you have to bring this up with her again, and either you should do it together or your DH should do it on his own. You shouldn't feel awkward about asking for something reasonably and politely, just plan how you are going to say it.

MIL, we have mentioned this to you before but I don't think you have grasped how important this is for us. We really need you to wear different footwear when you are in our house - either slippers or special shoes kept here for the purpose, whichever you prefer. We love having you here and really appreciate everything you do for us and hope that you won't mind doing this extra thing for us.

Mudonstairs · 14/03/2024 14:36

Bluegray2 · 14/03/2024 13:23

Why on earth did ye put carpet anywhere on the ground level, it’s kind of stupid given your obsession with dirt

This thing of not wearing outdoor shoes indoors is so ‘wannabe posh/ nouveau riche’

If you’d read my other updates you’d see that the carpet was here when we moved in. We can’t afford to replace the flooring at the moment so we are trying to maintain the current as long as possible. Not sure where you live that you think people should have hard floors throughout, but we live in a cold part of the UK so carpet is what you really want when you live here! Just to look after it is all I want.

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Mudonstairs · 14/03/2024 14:38

LifeExperience · 14/03/2024 13:24

I have had severe plantar fasciitis since I was in my 20s and have to wear shoes with orthotic inserts at all times unless I'm in bed.

I would welcome you to my house with your shoes! MIL has no such condition.

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Mudonstairs · 14/03/2024 14:41

wordler · 14/03/2024 13:26

Just bite the bullet and tell her you want everyone to take their shoes off at the door and swap to slippers, indoor shoes or stocking feet.

Put a small mat or shoe shelf thing next to your ottoman with her slippers on, and yours etc. And make it clear that everyone stops at the ottoman and changes shoes before leaving the house and when coming back in.

Keep reminding her.

One option is to ask her to start modeling this behaviour for your child (are they wearing any footwear yet?) because you want it to be second nature for your child to also take shoes off at the door.

You say you keep having conversations about it but it doesn’t feel like you have actually told her what you want.

That is a great idea to ask her to model the behaviour to DC as he has just started wearing shoes so it would make sense. I guess I just cringe at the idea of telling a grown woman old enough to be my mother what to do! I don’t want to boss her about 😂

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Mudonstairs · 14/03/2024 14:43

Menomeno · 14/03/2024 13:33

No normal person would find cleaning their carpets every month cheaper or easier than just removing shoes when they come into the house. It’s not difficult. I wouldn’t want somebody wheeling their bike all over my carpet either, or wiping their dirty shoes over any of my other soft furnishings. It’s not OCD, it’s just common sense.

I keep a pair of socks in my handbag for when I visit people and don’t want my bare feet on display.

Thank you! I love how I’m being compared to Mrs Hinch 🤣 I bloody wish!

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BlueFlint · 14/03/2024 14:46

Mudonstairs · 14/03/2024 14:24

See my previous comment. A real life story did actually happen recently where poo had made it into the house and I told her this story. Still no change!

Ah. Well in that case clearly you can't be subtle about this as it's too easy for her to ignore. Neon sign?? Doormat with "take your sodding shoes here" written on it? Put down plastic carpet cover sheets on every carpeted floor every time she visits?? Obviously it's not worth falling out over especially if you have a lovely relationship but I think it's time for a "No, you REALLY can't keep your shoes on here, sorry, same rule for everyone" talk. What else can you do?

Mudonstairs · 14/03/2024 14:48

Bluegray2 · 14/03/2024 13:54

@tittybumbum

Going back to my original question, why did you put carpet at ground level given your obsession with dirt? …..it was extremely stupid, no one does this anymore

Not sure if this question was meant to be for me, but I have explained more than once in my previous updates why I would deign to have carpets on the ground floor of my house 🙄

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WatchandWaitorNot · 14/03/2024 14:48

Do you have a doormat?

StaunchMomma · 14/03/2024 14:49

It's not really an AIBU situation of right/wrong to wear shoes in the house- it's your house so you get to say how things run in it. No other opinions required but yours & DH's.

I think I'd stand at the door and hand her her slippers as she enters, to be honest. No need to keep talking about it if she carries on doing it - just a simple, breezy 'Here's your slippers, June - pop your shoes in the basket there. Fancy a brew?'.

It will feel odd first time but I'm sure it will also feel awesome to not have her shitty shoes on the carpet!

BlueFlint · 14/03/2024 14:50

Also the idea that you should buy an expensive carpet cleaner especially / refloor your own home to accommodate one visitor's preference to keep their outdoor shoes on is so utterly ridiculous that I don't think you should even bother replying - people just love playing devil's advocate.

Mudonstairs · 14/03/2024 14:51

AbsolutelyEmma · 14/03/2024 14:12

This always comes up on here op. I think yanbu.

People always say it's a class issue to put others down.

Well all I can say is that there is a lot of dog poo on the school run and I've seen people walk through it accidentally not even realising.

People spit on the floor too. Urinate in the street and on the floor in public toilets. I've even seen dead rats and birds.

If it's classy to walk traces of shit, spit and who knows what else onto the floor that your baby plays on then more fool them.

Hear hear! My thoughts exactly 👏

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HellWitYa · 14/03/2024 14:52

CwmYoy · 14/03/2024 10:46

It's perfectly normal to wear shoes indoors if that's how you feel comfortable.

I wouldn't dream of telling someone to take their shoes off. Very rude.

I think it's rude going into a guests house and walking all over their clean carpets with outdoor shoes on, personally.

BIossomtoes · 14/03/2024 14:55

HellWitYa · 14/03/2024 14:52

I think it's rude going into a guests house and walking all over their clean carpets with outdoor shoes on, personally.

Even if the host asks you to keep them on?

Mudonstairs · 14/03/2024 14:56

Seabluegrey · 14/03/2024 14:14

This would annoy me too OP.

However I also found it very icky that your child eats snacks sitting on the floor, to me there is nothing worse (other than maybe shoes with dog poo!) than children eating snacks in random places around the house rather than sat at the table. I know I am in a minority here but it’s how I was brought up.
Is it possible your MIL prefers to wear shoes to avoid walking on sticky crumby floors? ;-)

Haha I hear you but I assure you my floors are not crumby. I sweep and hoover the main areas after every meal time as DC is known to make a mess whether at a table or not. I don’t see the point in restricting his snacking and I let him snack on things that won’t be too hard to clean like a breadstick for instance. He has a habit of flinging food if he is stuck in a high chair and wants out anyway as he gets bored easily. If a few minutes of tv and snacking on the floor buys me time to make dinner then I think its worth it 🤷🏻‍♀️

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SpringtimeBunny · 14/03/2024 14:58

@LifeExperience So do I! Therefore I have indoor shoes and outdoor shoes. I've no desire to spread filth & bacteria from outdoors, into my home

Mudonstairs · 14/03/2024 15:00

Whoknowsohyoudo · 14/03/2024 14:27

My DH was a plumber in his early days he had what looked like a large tissue box that you put your foot in and it would snap a cover over your shoe. Get her one of those at the front door. She keeps her shoes you keep a clean home. I also hate shoes in the house op

I think if I made her do this she would probably relent and take the shoes off 😂 I just find it all a bit awkward and embarrassing!

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