I am not voting for Labour or Con…

[EddyF]

What party can I vote for that may have a chance? I do not want to waste a vote but may have to. As a young(ish) Black woman, none of the above present me. I was born here as were my parents. Originally from East Africa. Spent a lot of holidays there as a child but not so much as an adult, otherwise I would seriously think of going back to live there.

I have always voted Labour but they are disappointing. For the first time, I am thinking of not voting but it does not sit right within me.

I might try the Green Party I guess.

Just vote for whoever is likely to unseat the Tory in your constituency. It’s that simple. I don’t like the current version of Labour either.

You do realise that Reform is just the rebadged Brexit Party? That bunch of chancers and liars?

Ah yes, the amazing policies of the reform party 😠

I imagine a good few potential Reform voters voted for Brexit (led by chancers and liars) and then for chancer and liar Johnson in 2019.

Reform want to increase the 2 percent currently spent on defence to 2.5 by 2027 and to 3 percent by 2030. Defending the UK should be the number 1 priority for any party. They also want to invest in education for ex defence personnel after they leave service so they can get other jobs.

Oh yes. 30p Lee. Now 3 parties Lee. 🙄

How are they going to pay for it?

I just could not bring myself to vote for any of the the main parties, so I will be voting for the best independent as there usually are a couple to choose from. Failing that I will spoil my ballot.

I live in NI.

None of the major parties stand here. Mine has been a safe seat for decades. But every election I vote against them regardless.

I know my vote won't change the world or has any impact on the UK as a whole. I vote because it's the only chance I have to make the powerful listen.

If you can't be arsed to vote do you deserve democracy?

If you don't vote then you deserve what you get. Not voting is always the most stupid response.

Do your research in your local constituency. That's what matters. It's not the X factor. You need to look online at past results in your area to see who has a realistic chance of winning. Who is bothering to leaflet drop and knock on doors in your area? That will tell you what you need to know.

If you want to get the conservatives out then your best chance is this strategy. So it will either be Labour or Lib Dems and if you're in Brighton then Greens. Where I am it's LD who always come in 2nd with the next largest share so that's who will vote for. Labour don't bother with big campaigns where we are because they can see it's money wasted. Do I agree with everything they stand for? No. But do I want another conservative government? No.

By cutting something less important I expect. For me the defence of the UK is number 1 priority. Putin is becoming more unstable each year.

Are Labour actually trying to get elected?

I thought they had been spending the last few years trying to appeal to as few people as possible.

If this is them trying to get elected them I'm worried.

(I am also someone who rarely finds anyone to vote for)

If you've always voted Labour, what is it you don't like about them this time around? They stand their best chance of getting in, so it seems odd to stop voting for them now.

You need to look at your local constituency and decide based on that. I'll be voting Lib Dem because they're the second party to the Tories here, and my main priority is getting the Tories out (especially our useless local Tory MP). I want Labour to win though. You need to think pragmatically.

And anyone who thinks Keir Starmer's Labour is anything like the Johnson/Truss/Sunak Tory party is deluded.

I dont know who is standing in my area. Last time we had this progressive alliance so a lot of candidates witthdrew and put their support into the lib dem.
The time before there was an excellent independent.

Its been a safe Tory seat since it was a seat but it might change.

My advice would be to vote tactically.

We have to get rid of this racist, corrupt, useless Tory government who brought misery on the UK.

In some places that might mean voting Lib Dem rather than Labour.

Green is another option, but please look at whether your vote might help a Tory stay in place if you go for a party that realistically has no chance to get an MP...because helping a Tory keep their seat is truly the worst option.

I'd like to know what, given their plans to take so many people at the lower end out of paying tax.

There is a huge misconception that is being perpetuated on Mumsnet constantly about the current Labour position on women. I suggest people actually check this before repeating the same tropes about issues Labour have already changed policy on and admitted they got wrong. The current stance is in line with the vast majority of the public. I'm really fed up of this issue being pushed along with "they spent all the money" - at least they spent it to invest in the country as opposed to the Tories lining their own pockets all while actually accruing more debt themselves than every single previous Labour government combined. It's literally all the Tories have as they've been so utterly shit for so long. We have no policies and still blame Labour for us being so crap. It's pathetic.
Please read the Labour manifesto and check the actual position on Women's rights. The irony of this issue when faced with a government who actually presided over the shit show on gender and have done utterly nothing to support women with their misogynist attitudes is just laughable.

If you dont want the tories in again you have to vote labour. Because of our fptp system

It may bit be your prefered oprion but you have ti look at what will be the better outcome

I'm voting Reform. No, they wont get in, but every party has to start somewhere.

They plan to opt us out of human rights acts so illegal migrants just get sent back to the country that was their last port of call before UK. Meaning all the money spent putting them up in 4 star hotels isn't spent. They plan to control legal migration more closely too. So no coming to study and bringing your entire extended family with you. Then dropping out of education and extended family all suddenly claiming asylum. They want to get rid of wokery too. Did you know the year before it went bankrupt Birmingham city council (Labour) appointed yet another diversity person paid £103k per year. This when they knew they had overspent already and bankruptcy was inevitable. Getting rid of waste like this in local government.

@EddyF
Start campaigning for Proportional representation. For a country the size of England to have two realistic options (not including rest of UK who appear to have better party selection) is so limiting and undemocratic.

@ilovesooty but you can read their draft manifesto for yourself. It's on their website. I read 3 or 4 manifesto before deciding who to vote for. They seem like only party with new ideas to me. They know what a woman is and won't be charging students interest on their student loans. I think there is still so much waste in public services. People who make hospital appointments then don't cancel but just don't turn up should be made to pay a fine. Millions gets wasted in do not shows for appointments every month.

Yes it’s the same trend

Where they differ is the electoral system as you say. What that means overall I guess we’ll see. Labour won’t want PR