I am not voting for Labour or Con…

[EddyF]

What party can I vote for that may have a chance? I do not want to waste a vote but may have to. As a young(ish) Black woman, none of the above present me. I was born here as were my parents. Originally from East Africa. Spent a lot of holidays there as a child but not so much as an adult, otherwise I would seriously think of going back to live there.

I have always voted Labour but they are disappointing. For the first time, I am thinking of not voting but it does not sit right within me.

I might try the Green Party I guess.

😂😂

Here we go with all the ‘smeared’ shite. Corbyn was an antisemite. I’m glad he lost, should never have been in charge of a political party at all. Vile man.

The Covid boards are that way 👉

Well you asked 2 questions. I will assume you meant the latter. My answer is I have no idea, I don’t know you.

So what rights have been removed from you as a biological female?

Any rights that concern your biological female status. This might involve hospitals, dv centres, rape crisis centres, toilets, swimming pools and changing areas, many (but not all thankfully) sports, the list goes on.

I’m not even covering any rights biological female children have to not be mutilated. Although thankfully the child hormone blockers have been taken off the NHS. .

And yes - this has happened on the tories watch. I expected - wanted Labour to sort it out. No chance I’m afraid. If their current performance of not talking about it at all ever to anyone is anything to go by.

Sex based rights are not ’culture wars’.

Gender boards are this way 👈as are benefits boards, politics boards and so on. Its an issue that i'll base my vote on, others have outlined the issues that they'll vote on. Don't see any issue.

What rights, exactly, regarding my female biological status? There has never been a right for single sex toilets, or changing rooms, or toilets, or even hospitals. There are still many hospital wards that aren't single sex due to massive lack of beds.

I still have maternity pay. I am still able to vote. I still have the right to equal pay. I have the right to birth control. I have the right to have my own bank account. I am able to request a divorce. These are all things I wouldn't have been able to do 100 years ago or less.

If there have been cases in this country of female children being mutilated I would very much like to see the evidence. Baby / young boys are mutilated every day, obviously, but I have seen nothing about young girls being mutilated. Of course there is a problem with female genital mutilation outside of this country, but as far as I am aware, this is, and always has been, against the law.

Pretty sure puberty blockers not being prescribed by the NHS for trans patients doesn't affect any of my rights as a woman and really don't understand why you threw that in there.

That's libellous.

www.thecanary.co/uk/analysis/2019/02/25/heres-the-concrete-evidence-to-prove-jeremy-corbyn-is-not-antisemitic/

It’s true.

And it’s hilarious that your think shithouse internet site the Canary is any kind of authoritieve source

It clearly isn't. If there was any evidence he'd have been expelled from the Labour Party. Starmer's managed to expel plenty of Jewish members, in fact left wing Jews have suffered something of a purge in recent years, so it's not he's soft on expulsions.

I'm in the Midlands and I personally know of several voters who previously voted Labour who like the Reform manifesto and especially the re-nationalising 50 percent of utility companies with pension funds holding other 50 percent so utility companies can't rip people off.

They are eating into traditional Labour seats too.

The left won't vote for Starmer and the right are shifting over to reform. What with voter suppression, boundary changes and the Tory voters who stubbornly turn out, it's not going to be a Blairite walkover. There's zero enthusiasm for Starmer's Labour from the general public.

Only the ones that turned Tory in 2019. They’re splitting the Tory vote.

There's zero enthusiasm for Starmer's Labour from the general public.

How come they’re 20+ points ahead in the polls then?

No, I know some traditional Labour voters who voted Labour for almost 40 years.

Anecdote means nothing. The data from the polls quite clearly indicates that the party losing its voters to Reform is the Tories. Far right parties are always a threat to them, that’s why Farage gave them free rein in so many seats in 2019.

That's the polls, it's not indicative of enthusiasm is it?

There's less enthusiasm than there was with Kinnock, it's absolutely flat out there. Look at the feet they get out for canvassing, it's pitiful given the opposition is the worst government we've had in living memory.

Where do you think the information in the polls comes from? The voting intention puts Labour 20+ points ahead and election results are based on voting, not enthusiasm.

I generally vote for one of the independent candidates. There are always quite a few in our London Borough and I like to help them get back their deposit at least. My vote makes no difference to the result as it's a super safe seat but I'm not impressed with any of the main parties.

Reform will do surprisingly well this election. As "surprisingly" as the Brexit vote was to the affluent/liberal minority.

Unlike the Brexit vote this isn’t a binary choice. UKIP used to get very large numbers of votes, they never translated into seats.

So what's your point? I mentioned enthusiasm, you mentioned opinion polls, presumably as an indication of enthusiasm for Labour. Now you're saying there isn't a link between voting intention and enthusiasm.

You can't seriously think people believe Starmer's tenure is going to be transformative in any way, they don't even claim to be in their own campaigning.

It's also worth noting Labour have a history of performing below what polling levels suggest.