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To feel sorry for the Tories?

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User135644 · 13/03/2024 13:42

The Conservative Party are a British institution. The most successful political party in the democratic world. They're going through a bad time at the moment and have been dealt a bad hand. They inherited a global financial crash which the western world is still to recover from and then a once in a lifetime pandemic which has further crippled the economy. Now there's wars in Gaza and Ukraine. Really unfortunate circumstances for them to operate in.

It looks like they're going to get a really bloody nose in the next election. Starmer has taken the centre ground and now Reform are starting to steal their MPs as well as voters. Now even their biggest donor is caught up in a scandal. When it rains it pours.

How can they recover from this? Can they recover from this?

The Tories are the great survivors but it's hard to see how they can win the next election, or maybe even the one after that.

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Cattenberg · 13/03/2024 16:56

TisTheDarnSeason · 13/03/2024 16:36

I can't wait for election night. There are going to be so many glorious 'were you still up for Portillo?' moments. It will be delicious to see hundreds of smug, self-serving fuckwits disappear into the wilderness for a decade or so.

If this is true, I really hope Jeremy Hunt is one of them.

To feel sorry for the Tories?
DanielGault · 13/03/2024 16:56

Thisilldo · 13/03/2024 16:41

Hilarious you have posted this question on mumsnet where you a selfish twat if you don’t want to give the money you earn to other people and you’re the devil in disguise if you dare to send your child anywhere than the local sink school.

The throes will recover after a few years of labour calamity.

What people on here don’t understand is is that actually get off our arsed and do ok will be fine whichever party is in power because we pay for the services we need as and when.

Save your words. What you're saying is "I'm alright Jack". Let's hope you never need society to step in for you in your hour of need.

Cem82 · 13/03/2024 16:58

The reason they’re so successful is that they have rigged the voting system so they can get in with a third of the countries votes! It’s not a proper democracy!

The majority are sociopathic rich people who don’t care about the average person and will let us all die on hospital trolleys to make a quick buck for themselves and their donors. Cockroaches in suits.

Their handling of things like the pandemic cost human lives and they go on living in their second homes on expenses and getting silly money for their second jobs which they do at the same time they’re being paid to work for the country with tax payers money. You are ridiculous.

SerendipityJane · 13/03/2024 17:00

Almost a reply a minute and still not in trending ?

Cem82 · 13/03/2024 17:00

Incidentally the very word Tory was an insult (derived from the Middle Irish word tóraidhe, modern Irish tóraí, meaning "outlaw", "robber", from the Irish word tóir, meaning "pursuit" since outlaws were "pursued men")!

Jason118 · 13/03/2024 17:02

Almost a reply a minute and still not in trending

It'll be pulled soon!

bluelavender · 13/03/2024 17:04

We need electoral reform and to get rid of First Past the Post. We need to stop having large parties that try and accommodate too large a range of views and just end up fighting within themselves.

Everyone's vote should matter; and there shouldn't be 'safe' seats.

IncompleteSenten · 13/03/2024 17:04

They aren't owed anything by anyone. If they want people to respect them, they should behave in ways that earn respect.

JessS1990 · 13/03/2024 17:04

Penguinmouse · 13/03/2024 13:45

Why would I feel sorry for a party that has absolutely wrecked the country over the past 14 years? Public services absolutely decimated by austerity that didn’t even reduce the national debt, Brexit which has destroyed the country’s economy all because David Cameron couldn’t stand up to some backbenchers and a series of disastrous PMs who offer nothing. Struggle to think of a single thing that’s better now than it was in 2010.

Those with more money than they could possible need have got richer.

Noseybookworm · 13/03/2024 17:06

Can't wait to see the back of them. I'd like to see them absolutely decimated and not in power again for many decades. They don't care about you so don't waste your sympathy. What they have done to this country and the poor, vulnerable and disabled, is unforgivable.

CactusMactus · 13/03/2024 17:07

FUCK THE TORIES!!!

AgnesX · 13/03/2024 17:07

Bushmillsbabe · 13/03/2024 15:01

How on earth did they tax him 3k. Paramedics (who are IMHO vastly underpaid superheroes, we have needed them several times and every one has been beyond amazing) I didn't think even earnt 3k in a month

Isn't that the point (although it sounds like HMRC have got it wrong really).

DanielGault · 13/03/2024 17:07

Cem82 · 13/03/2024 17:00

Incidentally the very word Tory was an insult (derived from the Middle Irish word tóraidhe, modern Irish tóraí, meaning "outlaw", "robber", from the Irish word tóir, meaning "pursuit" since outlaws were "pursued men")!

Is that where Tory Island comes from?

VickyEadieofThigh · 13/03/2024 17:08

Hoglet70 · 13/03/2024 13:43

Labour wont undo of the policies people are moaning about and will spend more money and put us more into debt so they'll win again at some point.

The evidence shows very clearly that Tory governments put the country into far more debt than any Labour government ever has.

HotChocolateNotCocoa · 13/03/2024 17:11

CactusMactus · 13/03/2024 17:07

FUCK THE TORIES!!!

With a pointed stick!

JessS1990 · 13/03/2024 17:14

User135644 · 13/03/2024 14:39

They're the world's most successful political party. Labour haven't even had that many years in power. The Liberal Party achieved more and Labour's rise coincided with their decline.

People can sing it all they like, but it shows a lack of respect for what they've achieved over the centuries.

Edited

I would like to point out that your assertion that the Tories are the world's most successful political party is distinctly questionable.
For example the PAP has ruled its country for the entirety of the countries existence.

DorisDoesDoncaster · 13/03/2024 17:16

I’ve voted Tory since 18. I pay a shed load in tax and all the new tax rules they’ve brought in since they got into power after that last Labour government, have just shafted me and my family.

Honestly feel like they are sticking two fingers up at me as my career progresses, earnings have increased, whilst trying to squirrel some away in investments for when I’m older so I’m not a burden on the state.

Their stupid tax on landlords has screwed two of my siblings, who can only rent as they ruined their credit history years ago. Rents shooting up because of section 24. (Yes, their landlords have mortgages, they’re not friends with George Osbourne whose mates do not have mortgages on the multiple properties that they let out).

They are totally out of touch with the working people.

Jovacknockowitch · 13/03/2024 17:19

Alicewinn · 13/03/2024 16:25

I’m personally sick of little teenage narcissist fuckheads only thinking of their own power/self image without actually being able to lead/ run the country. TBF I did feel slightly sorry for Truss as all she did, was execute what she said she was going to do, but she just didn’t time it right. Her ideas were good though

Her "ideas" were unmitigated shite.

Jovacknockowitch · 13/03/2024 17:20

DorisDoesDoncaster · 13/03/2024 17:16

I’ve voted Tory since 18. I pay a shed load in tax and all the new tax rules they’ve brought in since they got into power after that last Labour government, have just shafted me and my family.

Honestly feel like they are sticking two fingers up at me as my career progresses, earnings have increased, whilst trying to squirrel some away in investments for when I’m older so I’m not a burden on the state.

Their stupid tax on landlords has screwed two of my siblings, who can only rent as they ruined their credit history years ago. Rents shooting up because of section 24. (Yes, their landlords have mortgages, they’re not friends with George Osbourne whose mates do not have mortgages on the multiple properties that they let out).

They are totally out of touch with the working people.

Your mistake is in ever thinking they were "in touch" with anyone who isn't Sir Bufton Fucking Tufton.

Cabincrew1 · 13/03/2024 17:21

Why would I feel sorry for a bunch of lying, callous psychopaths who only care about their own bank accounts.

No compassion or real concern for the most vulnerable in society. Children and pensioners going hungry and cold, epidemic of homeless people, public services destroyed.

You are being very unreasonable.

Hufflemuff · 13/03/2024 17:21

Hahahaa... well the 'nasty party' certainly don't feel sorry for you!!

2016MyLove · 13/03/2024 17:23

I am voting for a Labour government to right the wrongs of the tories. Give it a couple of years and we will have a fully functioning NHS, no more sewage in our waters (the EU used to monitor this but now it is awful), no more phoning your doctor and waiting weeks for an appointment and no pot holes.

Keir will talk to the EU and get the red tape removed for small businesses who complain they are bogged down with paperwork and he will do a deal to stop the small boats. No more unwanted immigration.

The poor and sick will be looked after instead of cast out and looked down on.

There's so much to look forward to if we can only come together and vote Labour.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 13/03/2024 17:24

DorisDoesDoncaster · 13/03/2024 17:16

I’ve voted Tory since 18. I pay a shed load in tax and all the new tax rules they’ve brought in since they got into power after that last Labour government, have just shafted me and my family.

Honestly feel like they are sticking two fingers up at me as my career progresses, earnings have increased, whilst trying to squirrel some away in investments for when I’m older so I’m not a burden on the state.

Their stupid tax on landlords has screwed two of my siblings, who can only rent as they ruined their credit history years ago. Rents shooting up because of section 24. (Yes, their landlords have mortgages, they’re not friends with George Osbourne whose mates do not have mortgages on the multiple properties that they let out).

They are totally out of touch with the working people.

Honestly, I couldn't care less if they have "screwed you over". Frankly, you deserve it for voting Tory all those years.

It isn't as if you cared about all the other people that you must have known that they were going to screw over when you voted for them...the poor, the disabled and the vulnerable etc.

If those who have traditionally voted selfishly are now regretting their choices, that's on them.

Magicpaintbrush · 13/03/2024 17:24

Wow, OP. Sorry for them? Reeeeeally??????

They instigated Brexit - which I think we can all agree has been like chucking a grenade into our economy - thank you David Cameron et al.

The 'let the bodies pile up' attitude during Covid and Partygate - that alone should be enough to tell you that they don't give a shiny shit about any of the human beings that make up the electorate - because to them we aren't human, we are numbers.

They also fucked over my DH and his colleagues in the Met by ripping up his pension plan (which they had to change the law in order to be able to do) and forced a new one which basically meant he would have to work an additional 11 years, on top of the 30 years he signed up to, in order to collect a pension of the same value as he was originally supposed to get. That was Teresa May.

Councils are going bankrupt, the roads are one massive pothole like the surface of the moon, nobody can get a doctors appointment. Staff are leaving the NHS in droves and the same goes for teaching. They have made public services so miserable to work in that they are falling apart. Remember back in the 90s when you could phone the doctor at any time of day, get an appointment straight away at a date and time convenient to you without having to do the 8am mad scramble with 100s of other people and not have to hear 'You are Number 70 in the Queue'???

I will never never never vote Tory for the rest of my life and there is nothing they could possibly do that would change my mind.

DaisyCat33 · 13/03/2024 17:25

User135644 · 13/03/2024 15:55

Same sex marriage
Achieved Brexit
Trade deals achieved post-Brexit
One of the fastest Covid 19 vaccine roll outs, achieved outside of the EU
The transformative educational reforms under Michael Gove
Levelling up - all the funding that has been directed to the regions as a result of this, the left behind areas
City mayors

I could go on but it'll feel like a Life of Brian sketch. What have the Tories ever done for us? But i'm not saying there weren't missteps. The Truss budget is still in the minds of voters as it's hit them in the wallet.

You consider Brexit an achievement? 🥴

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