To feel sorry for the Tories?

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The Conservative Party are a British institution. The most successful political party in the democratic world. They're going through a bad time at the moment and have been dealt a bad hand. They inherited a global financial crash which the western world is still to recover from and then a once in a lifetime pandemic which has further crippled the economy. Now there's wars in Gaza and Ukraine. Really unfortunate circumstances for them to operate in.

It looks like they're going to get a really bloody nose in the next election. Starmer has taken the centre ground and now Reform are starting to steal their MPs as well as voters. Now even their biggest donor is caught up in a scandal. When it rains it pours.

How can they recover from this? Can they recover from this?

The Tories are the great survivors but it's hard to see how they can win the next election, or maybe even the one after that.

yeah, when hell freezes over

Yes, you’re being unreasonable.

I would never under estimate the Tory party they shall go through a rough patch and return too much money is at stake

yes they will loose the next election and likely the one after(I hope as Labour need two terms to make changes) but I wouldn’t sympathise they have a knack of winning elections and Labour have a knack of giving them away

*lose the next election

Is this a joke? They have had 14 years. 14 YEARS! Look at the bloody mess.

No sympathy at all. Surprised anyone has. The mismanagement is shocking. The billions of public money wasted, the back-scratching, the appalling behaviour of so many MPs.

No one should ever feel sorry for a political party and especially not this self-serving mob. 🤦🏻‍♀️

Tories = brexit
Brexit = discrimination against 3 million Europeans that were living in the UK at the time of the vote
Brexit = racist, my white skin does not make brexit voters less racist
Bye bye tories

Hear hear @Combattingthemoaners hoping they’re completely destroyed in next election

That does appear to be Rishi's aim.

By seat but not by actual votes.

FPTP does not accurately reflect total votes cast and is skewed in their favour.

Luckily mine's asleep and missed my blatant gingeism.

We tend to talk mice and Dreamies rather than politics BUT the only person he hates is the MIL and she's a for-sure evil Tory so I'm claiming him for Team Good Guys.

This a million times.

Absolutely agree

Get to fuck.

OP, i actually can't believe your opening post, you are joking right???
Either that, or lunchtime drinking has addled your thought processes!

@Meowandthen

This is factually incorrect: on the 2019 General Election 43.6% voted for the Conservatives and 32% voted for Labour.

More people (13.96 million) voted Conservative. What I found astonishing is the people complaining that Boris was a liar with no regard for anything or anyone other than himself yet all this was known before the election yet 13.96 million still chose to vote for him.

I wonder how many of the people now complaining about the Conservatives also voted for them in 2019.

WTF, the state of the country, the poverty, the suffering, and you want people to feel sorry for the perpetrators?! They wouldn’t pee on you if you were on fire.

No I could t give a fuck about any of the corrupt lying charlatans. Hope they disappear for a long time. They fucked this country over and deserve the political bashing.

@cato40 my step dad is an EU citizen. He has lived here for years and after Brexit went through the rigmarole (and it really was) of getting settled status. He was recently extremely ill in hospital and when he should have been resting and stress free had someone come round saying he didn't have the right to NHS treatment, they needed paperwork (which was at home) etc. Luckily my mum sorted it but if he'd not had support it could have been awful. It's a despicable way to treat a pensioner (or anyone for that matter). The government were not reticent about accepting his tax money for years. I just can't like or respect anyone who voted for Brexit because of the way families like ours have been treated.

@DrCoconut

But just like the consequences of Brexit are the fault of the people that voted for Brexit. The consequences of the Conservatives are the fault of the people that voted for them.

Is this some new version of But Jeremy Corbyn?

I can see it’s time for this again.

And this. https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/insight-and-analysis/reports/high-performing-nhs-review-progress-1997-2010

@1dayatatime hence I said upthread that the OP is BU feeling sorry for them.

Is this irony? Of course you are BU. Even if I was a true blue Tory (which I’m not) I would not feel sorry for them. The vast majority of the party’s ‘issues’ have been self inflicted. In addition they have treated the electorate with utter disdain throughout their tenure. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg. So why on earth would I give a crap about their current situation?
As for being dealt a ‘bad hand’ - that’s just BS. Successive governments have had to deal with all sorts of similar crises including financial crashes and wars. That is literally what they are there for. No we haven’t had a global pandemic but we have had many very serious health crises that have required governing at the highest level (e.g BSE, HIV).
If you wish to continue feeling sorry for these useless buggers then feel free, just don’t drag the rest of us into it!

You’re talking about a party led by public schoolboys who have never grown up and treat politics like some big game. I didn’t like Thatcher and I disagreed with most of her policies, but she was an intelligent woman who took her job very seriously and I respected her for that. Even Theresa May was ok. But anyone who votes for the likes of Johnson or Sunak doesn’t deserve a vote in my opinion- they are so far removed from normal people and only care about their own wealth and status.

1987 actually. Unless you count Blair’s majorities - 179 and 167. Makes 80 look pretty paltry.