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Why is being successful frowned upon by most on Mumsnet

316 replies

Teenangels · 10/03/2024 10:03

I have been/seen on some threads that people, are negative towards those that have become successful, children go to private school means the kids are entitled.

Why can't we celebrate that some people get lucky with an idea, take risks, work incredibly hard and pay their fair share on taxes.

I have seen people demand that the OP gives their profits to charity without even knowing what the OP gives to charity.

We need to celebrate all in society.

OP posts:
midgetastic · 10/03/2024 11:37

Wealth inequality should certainly be reduced

I don't know that everyone earning the same would be the right thing though

But effort should be valued more and genetic or inherited luck less

Willyoujustbequiet · 10/03/2024 11:38

whistleblower99 · 10/03/2024 11:27

Thus proving the point of the op and what I’ve said. These people are the majority on mn now. Literally spending all day going on threads which really aren’t relevant to them to make themselves angry. They are like volunteer forum police spending all day trying to pull down people different to them. Saying they shouldn’t be posting. The irony is strong.

Why are you presuming these demographics are permanent? It's absolutely possible to be a high earner one month and be in dire straits the next.

You know nothing of the personal situations of people who post on here but seem happy to make assumptions. It's naive at best.
I think quite tellingly is all you've done is prove the opposite of what you were perhaps trying to do.

Itscatsallthewaydown · 10/03/2024 11:38

Teenangels · 10/03/2024 11:36

I know that some people would never work a 90 hour week, and are resentful to those that do.

This really is a marathon whingathon of a thread, OP. Sucks to be you, eh?

Teenangels · 10/03/2024 11:38

Itscatsallthewaydown · 10/03/2024 11:33

They don’t though, do they? Just reinforces your own prejudices

My prejudices, really.

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Itscatsallthewaydown · 10/03/2024 11:39

Teenangels · 10/03/2024 11:38

My prejudices, really.

Yep. You’re grasping your way towards self-awareness.

Willyoujustbequiet · 10/03/2024 11:40

InterIgnis · 10/03/2024 11:29

In a thread about the subject?

No, in your comment.

whistleblower99 · 10/03/2024 11:40

Itscatsallthewaydown · 10/03/2024 11:38

This really is a marathon whingathon of a thread, OP. Sucks to be you, eh?

Yes you seem to have all Sunday morning to be wanting to pull her down? Says more about you tbh.

Teenangels · 10/03/2024 11:40

Itscatsallthewaydown · 10/03/2024 11:38

This really is a marathon whingathon of a thread, OP. Sucks to be you, eh?

No it does not suck to be me.

Does it suck to be you, you really dont like people who have become successful.

OP posts:
whistleblower99 · 10/03/2024 11:40

Willyoujustbequiet · 10/03/2024 11:38

Why are you presuming these demographics are permanent? It's absolutely possible to be a high earner one month and be in dire straits the next.

You know nothing of the personal situations of people who post on here but seem happy to make assumptions. It's naive at best.
I think quite tellingly is all you've done is prove the opposite of what you were perhaps trying to do.

The thing is I do. They usually have all day to tell us.

Teenangels · 10/03/2024 11:41

whistleblower99 · 10/03/2024 11:40

Yes you seem to have all Sunday morning to be wanting to pull her down? Says more about you tbh.

The poster wants everyone to be the same, no matter what they earn, they all need to stay in one lane.

OP posts:
Itscatsallthewaydown · 10/03/2024 11:41

Teenangels · 10/03/2024 11:40

No it does not suck to be me.

Does it suck to be you, you really dont like people who have become successful.

Don’t bother me, as long as they pay their taxes. I don’t understand why you feel the need to have everyone bend the knee though. Smacks of insecurity and imposter syndrome.

LittleBearPad · 10/03/2024 11:42

MobileStationery · 10/03/2024 11:14

Why do people think MN is one hive mind?

There's millions of users a month on here.

I think the responses threads get are often inspired by the thread title and the first post.

So someone complaining they're struggling when they earn £70k for example will get attention from people earning way way less and they'll point out how lucky the OP should feel.

If someone starts a thread titled "Have £2000 to spend on a bag" you can't really be that surprised when people with scarce enough to feed their kids reply negatively.

'my diamond shoes are too tight'
Will get negative responses from those without shoes.

So instead of moaning that a small percentage of the total visitors have responded in a less than affirmative and positive and celebratory way, they haven't sufficiently doffed their cyber caps to their betters as it were, maybe wonder why those posters are getting the negative responses in the first place and perhaps you may see their post andnsituation is akin to someone with a cold complaining their nose is blocked to someone with incurable cancer.

If someone starts a thread titled "Have £2000 to spend on a bag" you can't really be that surprised when people with scarce enough to feed their kids reply negatively

So don’t open that thread. Scroll on by.

Fizbosshoes · 10/03/2024 11:42

I don't begrudge anyone success

But agree with @midgetastic snd @pointythings that often it's all credited to hard work. When often there is an element of luck (the OP mentions luck in their post tbf) or chance or benefits such as natural talent/intelligence/ability, having a stable background and a good education.

I think if its mentioned people feel insulted that they didn't work for their success when often (not always) its a combination of things including working hard.

My children's school recently had an open evening and was talking about the high standards thry had and how their gcse results were well above the national average due to the excellent teaching. It is a very good and oversubscribed state school with good teachers. However I'm sure it's also partly to do with the demographic of the school - and the cohort of pupils with mostly mc University educated parents so a mixture of factors.

And of course lots of people work extremely hard at jobs that don't pay well

LittleBearPad · 10/03/2024 11:42

Itscatsallthewaydown · 10/03/2024 11:41

Don’t bother me, as long as they pay their taxes. I don’t understand why you feel the need to have everyone bend the knee though. Smacks of insecurity and imposter syndrome.

Bend the knee? You are really in a pickle.

Itscatsallthewaydown · 10/03/2024 11:42

whistleblower99 · 10/03/2024 11:40

Yes you seem to have all Sunday morning to be wanting to pull her down? Says more about you tbh.

As do you and her. That’s not really a great argument.

Teenangels · 10/03/2024 11:43

Itscatsallthewaydown · 10/03/2024 11:39

Yep. You’re grasping your way towards self-awareness.

If only you knew or had the ability to look outside of your tiny little box, that you think the world is.

OP posts:
squirrelnutkin10 · 10/03/2024 11:43

midgetastic · Today 10:50

To be clear - it's the smugness that comes across and a general refusal to acknowledge how important luck and birth were.

Not always, yes luck and birth play a role but the attitudes and personalities of those who BECOME wealthy through their own actions from working class, single parent, care, backgrounds speak volumes too.
My close friend came from a very poor background, with parents who had no qualifications whatsoever and had never left the county they were born in. She was not only bright but driven despite a crippling lack of confidence thanks to said parents...
From a low achieving Comprehensive school she went to a mediocre Uni, got a good degree, then started at the bottom in an industry that was totally male dominated, and mysogynistic, she fought her way to Director level.
Her only DD is now at a top private school.
As for luck, well she suffered abdominal growths from childhood, has had 5 major operations during her career, and had two failed marriages each of which she suffered financially to leave. She has supported her DS alone for 12 years. Wealthy self made people have problems just the same.
What stands out from all the self made wealthy people l have ever met is an unflinching drive, ability to pick themselves up after disasters, lack of poor me attitude, lack of, the Government should provide, etc.
Those born into money, yes there is a difference and it can be grating and irritating.

whistleblower99 · 10/03/2024 11:44

Itscatsallthewaydown · 10/03/2024 11:42

As do you and her. That’s not really a great argument.

You literally came on to this thread to get angry thus proving her point. Then said it sucked to be her. Peak MN and the pure envy which is prevalent on this forum.

Teenangels · 10/03/2024 11:44

Itscatsallthewaydown · 10/03/2024 11:42

As do you and her. That’s not really a great argument.

I finally agree with you.

There is not point with arguing with stupid.......

OP posts:
InterIgnis · 10/03/2024 11:44

Willyoujustbequiet · 10/03/2024 11:40

No, in your comment.

I haven’t come into a thread about a subject, decided that since I don’t like the subject that it shouldn’t be talked about, and told the OP what she should be talking about instead and to shut up/check her privilege. So no, not really.

Itscatsallthewaydown · 10/03/2024 11:44

Teenangels · 10/03/2024 11:43

If only you knew or had the ability to look outside of your tiny little box, that you think the world is.

.and yet I’m not the one who posted a whingy thread about the uppity proles. I’m just one of those responding to it.

IFHTTBIC · 10/03/2024 11:46

When that success is genuinely founded on hard work, innovative ideas, and lucky breaks, then that's fantastic.

But all too often it's on the back of generations of inherited wealth, living and studying in the right place, marrying (or divorcing) well, and unacknowledged privilege.

And often that level of privilege is something the individual is unaware of or certainly doesn't understand as they've never personally known any other lifestyle.

Itscatsallthewaydown · 10/03/2024 11:46

whistleblower99 · 10/03/2024 11:44

You literally came on to this thread to get angry thus proving her point. Then said it sucked to be her. Peak MN and the pure envy which is prevalent on this forum.

As I said above, we’re either bloodthirsty revolutionaries at the guillotine or we just think that you’re being a bit silly and entitled.

whistleblower99 · 10/03/2024 11:46

Itscatsallthewaydown · 10/03/2024 11:46

As I said above, we’re either bloodthirsty revolutionaries at the guillotine or we just think that you’re being a bit silly and entitled.

As I said. Reckon I’ll pop back later this evening and you’ll still be going.

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