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To be furious at my MIL for cleaning our living room

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GelatinousDynamo · 08/03/2024 15:20

My MIL and I do not have the easiest relationship, I find her overbearing and "helpful" in a way that totally irritates me. She does whatever she wants and expects to be thanked for it.

It happened again today- FIL wanted to come over to borrow some tools and look at the garage roof with DH (they live about an hour's drive away). She called DH yesterday that she's coming along and will help clean and iron his shirts (he's in his 40s ffs, he's perfectly capable of ironing his own shirts). DH told her that she's welcome to come over, but she won't be cleaning. What happened? While my husband was outside with FIL and on a work call, she "tidied up" our living room. Ultimately, this means that it looks like a tornado swept through it. NOTHING is where it should be, even the furniture has been moved (eg the armchair for "better afternoon light", apparently).

This is not the first time and we've been turning down her "help" for years. Politely at first, then with a categorical no. She used to listen, but since we got married and bought a house, it's like she doesn't give a shit anymore, just comes over and does what she wants. Examples: last summer, she mowed my wildflower meadow in the front garden, because "you don't want those ugly weeds in front". She knew that it was supposed to stay, but she didn't like it, we would not bend when she complained about it being ugly, so she went and killed it. Just before Christmas, she " organised" our kitchen drawers and cupboards. She has form for ironing my clothes (destroying them in the process). Each and every time she's been told not to beforehand.

Every such incident is followed by a conversation with DH and (sometimes) FIL. Every such conversation ends in tears and with statements like "but I only want to help" and "I didn't want to do anything wrong". If DH is really angry (like when she secretly fed our dog to make him like her), it's "but I just want to feel needed". She then tells her sob story to her brothers, who then call my husband complaining that he's not treating his mother right (we're talking about people in their late 60s).

Today, as I came home from work, she welcomed me with "I hope you're not angry with me". I said nothing. They were already leaving as I came in. I'm fucking FURIOUS. I have better things to do than arrange my living room back to the way it should be. Now she's blasting me with text messages all saying "I hope you're not angry with me" and "I've just tidied up a bit". I've ignored her so far, don't even know what I should answer so it it doesn't turn into a huge drama with her in the leading role of Victim. She still doesn't understand that she did something wrong, it's like talking to a teenager.

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GelatinousDynamo · 08/03/2024 15:32

InlikealionOutlikeahare · 08/03/2024 15:30

Did your dh not notice?

No, he was outside with FIL and the dog (we don't leave her alone with the dog, but that's a topic for a different post).

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Tygertiger · 08/03/2024 15:33

Leave notes in drawers. “Hi MIL. Fancy seeing you here! You know you shouldn’t be rooting so if you are reading this, shut the drawer and leave now, nosy cow”.

Leave condoms, vibrators, sex toys in your living room cupboards. Obviously not if kids are about but if you can plan for when she’s there.

Basically make her squirm. Or ban her from the house. But make her squirm first.

alahanscornershop · 08/03/2024 15:34

I'd reply along the lines of
"You know I am going to be upset, I do not want you coming into MY home and cleaning and rearranging MY house, I'm asking you again to please stop doing it"

My MIL takes home our ironing but only when she's asked me first, I'd be furious if she came in while I was out and I wouldn't hesitate to tell her.

PinkShore · 08/03/2024 15:35

It happened today?

Phone or message her and tell her to come put it all back.

Mischance · 08/03/2024 15:37

She really does sound as though she is not well. "But I just want to feel needed" is a very pathetic statement. It is not the statement of a sane or happy adult. Especially as she is clearly aware that it is neither wanted nor needed. It seems to be some sort of compulsive behaviour.
What is she like when she is at home with FIL? Does she have any sort of social or creative life? Has she always been like this? Was her behaviour odd when your OH was growing up?
She does sound mentally unwell.

AlloftheTime · 08/03/2024 15:38

"I hope you're not angry with me".

of course she wants you to be angry - how else would she generate such attention

user1469908676728 · 08/03/2024 15:38

GelatinousDynamo · 08/03/2024 15:30

I guess it needed dusting, I was planning to do it this weekend. Still, no reason to move everything around.

I just saw that pushed the picture of my parents back and put one of her and my husband in front. It's not our picture. The frame has tiny hearts all over. This woman is crazy.

I’d have that picture proudly displayed in the downstairs toilet or the utility room or similarly non pride of place by the next time they visit!

PinkShore · 08/03/2024 15:38

Or just a straightforward message - “MIL - I hate that you have cleaned and rearranged my living room. This has annoyed and upset me and wasted my time putting it back.”

She’s only doing it because she can whinge and manipulate everyone and get away with it. Don’t tiptoe around her.

(Another more fun alternative is to sneak to her house when you know she’s out and clean/rearrange all her stuff. Make sure you add some “oh MIL, your [item] was so unclean I had to throw it away. I just couldn’t help but have a tidy up. No need to thank me.”)

BeaRF75 · 08/03/2024 15:40

YANBU. Just stop letting her in the house and, if they have a key, change the locks.

LakieLady · 08/03/2024 15:40

Brefugee · 08/03/2024 15:28

do you have a key to their place OP? go and move everything while they're away.

I'd be seriously tempted, to be honest.

I'd love someone to come in and have a bit of a tidy, but moving stuff around is just bonkers. After all, if you wanted your sofa or whatever in a sunny spot, you'd have sodding well put it there yourself.

GelatinousDynamo · 08/03/2024 15:40

ButterCrackers · 08/03/2024 15:26

She can be dropped off at a shopping centre whilst your FIL does some diy with your dh. Don’t let her in again.

But then she'd have to go shopping on her own, the horror!

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DrJoanAllenby · 08/03/2024 15:41

Turn up at her door. Barge past and then jostle her outside with her coat and handbag.

'Off you go dear, have a lovely day out somewhere whilst I get your place ship shape!'

Bolt the door from the inside so she can't get back in and draw the curtains so she can't see in.

Turn on the vacuum cleaner near the front door so whilst she is trying her key in the door and can't get in it sounds like you're hoovering. Shout out things, 'That's going straight in the bin!'

After ten minutes, let her in and ask if the distress she has felt now makes her understand what it's like to have someone come into their home and do stuff without permission.

Hopefully she'll be crying and that will put a stop to her interfering and crossing the line.

Aviee · 08/03/2024 15:42

OMG I've never been so sure that a poster is my SIL in my life.

If it's you, S, we agree and I'm starting to really strongly dislike her x

Jasmin1971 · 08/03/2024 15:42

She sounds a bit unwell tbh!

Hillrunning · 08/03/2024 15:43

I'd also give her jobs to do, horrible ones. Like cleaning the gutters or the outside of windows or the black bin. Talk about how badly you need her help with these things.

shams05 · 08/03/2024 15:43

Honestly? I'd just have one job for her to do to keep her busy. Sure your DH is perfectly able to iron his own clothes but let her do it anyway. Keeps her busy, she feels needed and keeps her away from all the important things you don't want her hands in.

GelatinousDynamo · 08/03/2024 15:45

Aviee · 08/03/2024 15:42

OMG I've never been so sure that a poster is my SIL in my life.

If it's you, S, we agree and I'm starting to really strongly dislike her x

Haha, sadly no, I don't have a SIL! But I'd love to exchange notes with yours!

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Rebootnecessary · 08/03/2024 15:46

shams05 · 08/03/2024 15:43

Honestly? I'd just have one job for her to do to keep her busy. Sure your DH is perfectly able to iron his own clothes but let her do it anyway. Keeps her busy, she feels needed and keeps her away from all the important things you don't want her hands in.

This, I was going to write the same.

Pick your battles. She wants to be helpful and useful, so give her a job to do. Let her iron shirts or clean the oven.

GelatinousDynamo · 08/03/2024 15:46

Hillrunning · 08/03/2024 15:43

I'd also give her jobs to do, horrible ones. Like cleaning the gutters or the outside of windows or the black bin. Talk about how badly you need her help with these things.

We tried that already. She will do it and complain about her back, or her hip, or her knees. For DAYS. And then it's back to the calls from her brothers.

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AmazingBouncingFerret · 08/03/2024 15:47

I wouldn’t answer her messages asking you if you’re angry, you’ll just be feeding it.

Wendysfriend · 08/03/2024 15:49

Omg this sounds fucking amazing and she irons.... Bonus points 😁😁😁😁 I'd be washing every item of clothing before she came over and leave it nicely piled for her to iron. how on earth do none of you hear the iron been used ? It must be a very quiet iron and she must iron at record speed.

Surprisedbuthappy · 08/03/2024 15:49

Oh, gosh she sounds unbearable! I don't have any advice other than to not let her in - sorry!

My MIL cleans my windows! I used to get upset about it as took it as a criticism, so the last time she came I made sure to clean them all first. The day after they'd arrived she was cleaning them all again because they "obviously hadn't been done"! That's when I realised she actually just needs to find something to do and it's nothing to do with me at all. I'm grateful that's all she does now!

CheeseCakeSunflowers · 08/03/2024 15:51

Well she obviously knows this will annoy you hence the text messages. The fact that she reports to her brothers who turn on you makes me wonder if its all a deliberate way of becoming a victim herself and getting lots of attention. I might try playing it all down, pretend you haven't noticed anything and see what reaction that brings

PlacidPenelope · 08/03/2024 15:51

AmazingBouncingFerret · 08/03/2024 15:47

I wouldn’t answer her messages asking you if you’re angry, you’ll just be feeding it.

This.

It was done to get a reaction which she could then spin to get sympathy and attention and to set her flying monkeys on you. By ignoring her you are not giving her the attention she is after and it is driving her mad.

Keep ignoring, do not respond in any way, if she phones don't answer.

In the future just refuse her entry into your house.

GelatinousDynamo · 08/03/2024 15:52

Mischance · 08/03/2024 15:37

She really does sound as though she is not well. "But I just want to feel needed" is a very pathetic statement. It is not the statement of a sane or happy adult. Especially as she is clearly aware that it is neither wanted nor needed. It seems to be some sort of compulsive behaviour.
What is she like when she is at home with FIL? Does she have any sort of social or creative life? Has she always been like this? Was her behaviour odd when your OH was growing up?
She does sound mentally unwell.

They've retired a few years ago and it went downhill from there. She has no interests, no hobbies and no friends (apart from her brothers and their wives).
FIL is perfectly happy, learning to play percussion (had to stop because apparently it gives her awful headaches) and gardening. She's listless, always looking for an excuse to come see my husband.

I do feel sorry for her, but keeping her entertained is not my job (or my life goal).

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