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My DH has hidden his true income from me... but why?!

433 replies

PurpleTrees123 · 05/03/2024 14:25

Together 15 years, married 10 years, 2 kids. we are happy. Name changed but regular mnetter.

Short version:
DH salary is £42.5k.
His commission bumped his income up to £97k last year, but he has never mentioned this.
AIBU to think he should have mentioned this at some point?

Long version:
DH basic salary is currently £42.5k. his monthly income only just covers his share
of the bills, so he rarely has any more left to add to savings pots, pay off
the mortgage etc.

My salary is more than DH's. I am a good saver, so I set aside my savings first,
and then decide what to do with the left over. I might save some more, I might
spend.

We have separate finances (I know this divides opinions on here!) We get paid into our own bank accounts, and then transfer a set amount each month to a joint account. All bills are paid from the joint account. We are then left with our
own pots of money to do as we wish.

Generally this has worked well for both of us as I am a good saver, so despite the fact I earn more, I also will save for big ticket items and pay for those.... new
boiler, holiday, big days out, family meals, theatre tickets etc.

I feel confident that this has been an even split over the years. And for many
years, DH took home more than I did.

Today, the post has been delivered and there are several letters in there. As I went through them, there are 3 letters from the Inland Revenue. 2 letters are in small brown envelopes, nothing unusual.

One of the letters was bigger and had a large window where the name and address is. Through the window, I could instantly see the words, Income: £97,000

I can’t unsee this. I didn’t go looking for this. It’s actually shocking how it is so clear. I guess it’s the way the letter has been drafted and folded, and this info just happened to end up in the window and be so visible.

Now I don’t know what to do… only yesterday we were talking about job hunting and he was saying that he needs to earn more money as he doesn’t like feeling like he always owes me money for things (I just paid for a big holiday out of the savings).

He has potential to earn commission in his role, but at no point has he ever alluded to the fact he has doubled his basic income. All this time I am thinking he earns much less than me, and I have been paying for things out of the savings to make things fairer. His car needed a full service and work done recently and I even offered to pay for that. He didn’t take me up.

I can’t think what he has spent his money on. We have 2 nice cars – we pay for these monthly and I know how much this costs. Our children do lots of activities, but again this is all out of the joint account so I know how much these cost.

We hardly eat out. He doesn’t have a shopping habit, we don’t belong to expensive clubs. We both WFH mostly, and spend all weekends together.

If I can save money each month, then how has he ended up with not enough to even contribute to joint holidays, and say he needs a better paid job?!

I recognise we are financially comfortable, and I am not here for a debate on
WHAT we spend our money on. We both pay into pensions.

AIBU in thinking he should have told me his whole income, rather than let me think he only earns his basic salary. I feel a bit of a mug to be honest.

Or is it none of my business? He hasn’t actually lied… I’ve never asked him what he took home last year. But at the same time, I had no idea his earning potential was that high!

OP posts:
LiveLaughCryalot · 05/03/2024 19:41

Oh and we have separate finances with one joint account we both put into but we still talk about income and expenditure. We certainly don't hide thousands of pounds!

betterangels · 05/03/2024 19:41

SanctusInDistress · 05/03/2024 18:47

Assume he has an ‘emergency’ savings pot that you don’t know of!

Everyone should have one. Women are encouraged to on here.

VeterinaryCareAssistant · 05/03/2024 19:42

You cant have it both ways - you either have joint finances and everything is "family money" which really means the woman's money to spend on shit for the home or you have separate finances where you pay a share of the bills (including children's expenses) and the rest is nobody's business.

BluntSeal · 05/03/2024 19:43

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anyolddinosaur · 05/03/2024 19:44

So after tax he had 20k+ more than you thought and he kept it quiet. I'd be asking to see pay slips from now on.

PurpleTrees123 · 05/03/2024 19:45

It's not a great situation now it's out in the open.
But until today it was absolutely fine and worked for us.

I honestly don't understand why some posters think that I am financially abusive towards my DH just because I choose to save money and fund family things.

In the 2 years since I have had a big pay rise, we have all enjoyed some lovely holidays, the fridge is always fully stocked with whatever anyone asks for, we've had the heating on and not had to worry about the bills, kids have big birthday parties, we've been on great days out and theatre trips. It all costs a lot of money, but it benefits the whole family. In my eyes, it's money well spent.

My DH has said he wants to contribute and pay half the holiday. I told him not to worry, but he said he wanted to. Surely that's his decision. If he wanted to pay and I refused to let him, people would be saying that is controlling behaviour.

OP posts:
Popquizzer · 05/03/2024 19:47

He's such a faker, pretending he can't afford to pay for things like holidays so you have to subsidise him. But stashing away his own salary. Ick.

LiveLaughCryalot · 05/03/2024 19:47

Yeah @TarantinoIsAMisogynist I keep seeing people being weird about separate finances. Almost in a haha kind of way which is baffling but anyway. We have separate finances but we are still a partnership, we still discuss money.
Oh and 30 grand, 50 grand does it matter? It's thousands and thousands of pounds. I'm interested to know if he pays anything towards the child's costs actually 🤔

Blueberry911 · 05/03/2024 19:48

An omission is a lie.

FinallyFeb · 05/03/2024 19:49

Now you know he earns this amount could you both continue to pay half of the household bills and also set up another account where you both pay for example £1200 per month into. This could be spent on holidays, theatre trips etc. then you’d still have separate finances but it’s fairer for the OP.

ZombieMovie · 05/03/2024 19:49

He is shady as fuck. Keep your eyes wide open. It seems you will be busy glueing them shut.

LiveLaughCryalot · 05/03/2024 19:50

I saw that @BluntSeal you naughty naughty boy. Fuck off back to the Daily Mail comment section like a good un. Toodles.

vitahelp · 05/03/2024 19:50

Yeah I’d be miffed at this too and understand why you are. We earn similar salaries and have separate accounts but make sure we pay equally into shared costs. My DH also has the opportunity to earn commission as of recently but not massive amounts. I’d be pretty upset and confused if it transpired he was almost doubling his salary in commission and hadn’t said. It’s something we would usually tell each other in a ‘look how well I did’ kind of way so we can share the achievement. Keeping it quiet is just so odd.

I would personally ignore some of the comments on here about financial abuse etc. You sound like a practical, fair person. I feel some posters are a bit cut off from reality.

budgetbunny · 05/03/2024 19:51

I honestly don't understand why some posters think that I am financially abusive towards my DH

Because the aren't used to a woman earning more than the husband and in their set ups their husbands too up their spending so they have equal amounts even though they usually earn a lot less

I had a similar set up to your OP - all bills except holidays and DIY split 50/50. Spending money was our own. I worked hard for my career. He didn't. He could have earned more but chose not to. That's not my job to then top him up financially. I was his wife not his mother

Nazzywish · 05/03/2024 19:52

OP you've been together 15 years and 2 kids but financially it's like you two are living seperate lives. It's so strange. There should be complete financial transparency and togetherness of who has what saved up ,in what accounts- what the big spends will be coming up. Individually if your doing extra stuff with your own money then what that is- your not asking permission to spend your own money, just the normal courtesy of talking it out with each other of what's going on, how wouldn't this come up in everyday conversation is odd to me anyway!

What about long term planning is that not done jointly.if your saving and he's spending then how does that even work, will he expect younto bankroll pension days. Its just all too vague. Have a proper sit down and hash this out with him.

bonzaitree · 05/03/2024 19:55

We’re not even married and we talk about finances all the time!

How has he not mentioned this massive hike?

Willmafrockfit · 05/03/2024 19:58

this sounds very upsetting op

FOJN · 05/03/2024 19:59

OP really it's your own fault, you haven't arranged the finances in your marriage in the way other people think you should so despite your full transparency with your husband about your earnings and savings and you spending your additional earnings on family things he still has every right to lie to you.

youhavenoidea123 · 05/03/2024 20:00

How did he run up debts? Something doesn't add up. He has managed to spend an additional 25k without you realising.

FOJN · 05/03/2024 20:03

I honestly don't understand why some posters think that I am financially abusive towards my DH just because I choose to save money and fund family things.

You're not. If anyone is taking the piss it's him.

Unfortunately some people don't read the thread properly and just jump on the band wagon assuming that everyone else has read the thread, you end up with a pile on based on misunderstanding. It's MN it's not personal.

Bournetilly · 05/03/2024 20:04

I couldn’t trust him after this, I’d want to see how much he’s earnt in previous tax years/ this year. It’s not just a few hundred or even a couple of thousand he’s spent, it must be around 30K. Has he got any left? I’d want to know what he spent it on because it can’t have be that easy to spend that much money without you noticing.

Tel12 · 05/03/2024 20:06

Of course the real issue is that he didn't tell you about the huge bonus. I think that he will have a long way to go to earn your trust. I'd also want to know about the last 5 years. You are obviously switched on and happy to be transparent. He's apparently not.

Helgada · 05/03/2024 20:11

He owes you money for holidays and feels bad. He kept commission a secret as he had to pay off some debts. You tell him don’t worry about this and that it’s my treat.

This is not a good way to run a marriage. Your husband is beholden to you when you treat him to nice extras like holidays. What happens when the kids pick upon mummy paying for the nice holiday cos daddy’s a bit skint this month? Open a joint account fgs.

BlueMum16 · 05/03/2024 20:20

Popquizzer · 05/03/2024 19:47

He's such a faker, pretending he can't afford to pay for things like holidays so you have to subsidise him. But stashing away his own salary. Ick.

This.

His surprise commission was a massive amount, just how much debt did he run up without you knowing?

We have similar financial split as you do. We're happy with joint bills and separate spends. I mostly pay for holidays as I save well. We don't earn your salaries but spend equal amounts on a holiday. BTW that's not expensive for a family of 4 in the holidays!

He's taking the piss and advantage. You need a frank conversation and both equally save for the family stuff.

Savoury · 05/03/2024 20:22

My bet is he’s playing the stock market or crypto.

No question he’s in the wrong here though.

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