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To HATE my dog

238 replies

Blossomo · 04/03/2024 16:11

We have a 7 year old pug who literally drives me nuts, he comes upstairs whilst we are out pisses on the banister. I am so sick of cleaning/re-painting. We have quite a big garden and all he does is chase passers by barking constantly. I know a dog is for life and everything but since having kids I really do not have the time and every time I look at him he just annoys me. It is really unfair to him as he could be with a family who love him, dont get me wrong, the kids LOVE him so I could not get rid but he just really gets on my nerves. I used to love dogs, we got a cat a year or so ago and he is amazing!

OP posts:
Nanny0gg · 05/03/2024 09:25

Blossomo · 04/03/2024 16:15

He never used to do this, it is as he got older. My mum now refuses to look after him when we go away as he just cocks his leg up everywhere in the house. I honestly never thought I would completely change to a cat person but I get so much pleasure from him. a

Have you been to the vet with him?

Strawberrypicnic · 05/03/2024 09:32

Olderthanthetrees · 05/03/2024 08:44

How old are your dc op? And when did this behaviour start? Any particular event coincide with it like moving house or youngest starting school?

He sounds like a lovely dog btw but he and your family are mismatched because he probably needs more one on one with lots of attention and you need a dog who is more aloof and independent.

The peeing is probably stress related due to separation anxiety.

~ vet check to rule out physical issue and discuss castration if he is entire
~ put all emotion like hate or frustration out of your mind and treat your dog’s unwanted behaviour as a communication signal - he’s not doing it to upset you personally - his behaviour is telling you something
~ video his behaviour when he is alone and you are all out (easily achieved using cheap indoor security camera)
~ ask behaviourist to help
~ buy the book Calming Signals by Turid Rugaas
~ stair gate
~ allocate an older kid to be his main number one person if you have a child over eight or nine years
~ give him his own little secure area within the home such as a (very large) crate with blankets, toys, where he can hear radio, and put some old jumpers of yours in it that has your scent on it or the scent of his main “person” and some chews
-once pee issue solved ask behaviourist to work on barking and sort area in garden that he doesn’t feel he has to constantly defend.

Honestly, I don’t usually suggest this, but if none of the above strategies work then I would consider re-homing him and getting your dc Guinea pigs instead or no pets! I think that is preferable to living in a household for another seven years where he is seen as an inconvenience and no one has time for him. Good luck! If he is sociable and friendly out on walks that is giving you a big clue.

Good luck op.

Agree with the rest of your post, but just wanted to say for anyone reading that please don't get guinea pigs if you don't have time for a dog! They are time and labour intensive pets.

SomersetTart · 05/03/2024 09:35

The OP already has another pet - a cat.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 05/03/2024 12:03

Come on OP put your big girl pants on and rehome your Pug responsibly,
you have suggestions of decent Animal Rescues and at least 2 offers of a home - there is a very good chance that these people are genuine and will look after him for the rest of his life.

You say you have trained him, I think you mean you toilet trained him when he was young, this is not a toilet training issue.
Now that children have come along he is clearly an inconvenience to you and you even admit you hate him, and that he annoys you ! POOR DOG he didn't ask for this, he doesn't deserve this !

NO ' animal ' deserves to be hated, your PET DOG deserves to be loved ! and wanted !!!

Blossomo · 05/03/2024 12:22

As much as I appreciate your concern, it is not as if he is being mistreated, Millions of dogs are left outside to starve, this is absolutely not the case, I just dont have the time that I used to. Putting him through the change of adapting to another family would be more stressful for him at this point I think

OP posts:
OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 05/03/2024 12:31

more stressful ? bollocks !

Scarlettpixie · 05/03/2024 12:37

Yabvu to hate your poor dog.

You need to step and you have been given loads of advice on how to improve things but you will need to put in some time and effort. You cannot leave things as they are, the dog deserves better. If you won’t then you need to rehome him safely through a rescue.

You probably shouldn’t have pets. I wonder what will happen when your cat gets pissy. They often do through stress or old age. Ours did after my son was born but we worked through it. They were part of the family. I didn’t hate them for it.

CaptainCarrot · 05/03/2024 13:30

You aren’t leaving him outside to starve? Well done you. 🙄 As you were at pains to point out, he is an ANIMAL which means he is completely dependent on you for everything. You owe it to him to do more than feed him. Have you even taken him to the vet to check for medical issues? How much exercise (physical and mental) does he get each day? I won’t ask about affection or positive interactions with you, as you’ve made it clear how you feel about him.

Frequency · 05/03/2024 14:03

Your ANIMAL is not getting all of his needs met. This is why he doing this. You do not deserve a pat on the back because your neglect of him is not as bad as it could be.

Crikeyalmighty · 05/03/2024 14:12

@Blossomo that's a pretty low bar saying he doesn't starve. One thing doing borrow my doggy has taught me (and I've had several for 3 weeks at a time) is that I don't want a dog permanently. I don't like doing walks in the rain, hate having what feels a really grubby house, get fed up of clearing shit off the garden and find it hard to work if I've got a dog that needs constant attention all day (the one I've got at the moment- a beautiful young working spaniel bitch does) she's incredibly lovely and very loving but very very full on , a bit like having a 2 year old toddler who doesn't go to nursery and I've realised if I did have a dog it needs to be laid back and non needy - thecockapoo we look after sometimes is way more like that. . I think you either have to get him neutered , get to the bottom of his spaying and make a big effort to do a bit more than just his basic needs or find a family / rehoming centre for him - that's the problem with pets, your circumstances can change and what felt a great idea, suddenly doesn't. I think that's why so many who had pets and particularly dogs in lockdown are finding 'it no longer suits' -- they didn't think about the tie , or that their circumstances might change. I do think it's actually quite brave to admit you aren't enjoying him- it's a bit like admitting you hate motherhood!!

Daphnis156 · 05/03/2024 14:18

Just rehome the poor animal- you are not really fit to own a dog, and it sounds as if the arrival of your children has made him totally unwelcome.

The cat will be next.

I hope you are not a nurse or teacher, or in any caring job.

DBSFstupid · 05/03/2024 14:20

Daphnis156 · 05/03/2024 14:18

Just rehome the poor animal- you are not really fit to own a dog, and it sounds as if the arrival of your children has made him totally unwelcome.

The cat will be next.

I hope you are not a nurse or teacher, or in any caring job.

This.
PLEASE REHOME YOUR POOR DOG.

Cdeedee · 05/03/2024 14:35

Blossomo · 05/03/2024 07:31

This might be an unpopular opinion but I treat my dog like the ANIMAL, yes ANIMAL that he is. I do not love him like I love my children and to think that is a possibility I think is slightly unhinged. I know lots of people have huge bonds with their dogs and treat them like humans, but realistically, all they care about is where their next meal is coming from. I feed him, walk him, clean him, and he gets lots of love from my children. My SIL treats her dog like an actual human and in all honesty, I think it is quite sad.

I think it is very sad that you hate your dog.

Olderthanthetrees · 05/03/2024 15:19

Strawberrypicnic · 05/03/2024 09:32

Agree with the rest of your post, but just wanted to say for anyone reading that please don't get guinea pigs if you don't have time for a dog! They are time and labour intensive pets.

I was just waiting for someone to comment on that.

I did deliberately write "or no pets at all" because I agree with you that if you don't get a pet you love and look after, it's preferable to have none at all!

kenadams86 · 05/03/2024 18:46
  1. Book vets appointment to rule out urine infection or diabetes etc
  1. If no health issues then defo get neutered
  1. Keep him downstairs and in the kitchen with stair gate when you aren't home
  1. Things can change when children come along but the dog will be very intuitive to changes and your feelings so I imagine there's a bit of anxiety there too. Try and rebond with him.
lotsofdogshere · 05/03/2024 19:34

My dogs are treated like animals Blossomo, so we have that in common. They aren’t fur babies, they’re dogs. The similarities stop there. I’d rescued for 40 years but 4 small grandchildren meant I needed pups from good responsible breeders. I now share my life with a spaniel and a big daft young lab. He’s a work in progress, you’d hate him because he needs training, exercise, boundaries. He needs attention. He needs his breed characteristics identified and met.
I posted earlier - rehome this dog. Having seen your responses to good advice here, I’m in no doubt, your dog deserves more than you are prepared to give him.

your dog is like so many other sad dogs, bought on a whim and discarded when their needs became too much or something better, less boring and demanding came along.
the older your dog gets, the more difficult it will be to rehome him
By the way, entire dogs mark, ie pee at times in their house

Pigglyplaystruant99 · 05/03/2024 20:20

Blossomo · 05/03/2024 12:22

As much as I appreciate your concern, it is not as if he is being mistreated, Millions of dogs are left outside to starve, this is absolutely not the case, I just dont have the time that I used to. Putting him through the change of adapting to another family would be more stressful for him at this point I think

Kindly, he will quickly move on. They all do, Pugs move on excruciatingly quickly. We often make the mistake of thinking our dog can not be happy unless he's with us, which is derived from our own guilt.

You've made a classic mistake of getting a dog before the reality of having children has hit home. It's not a crime, but keeping him feeling like you do is not kind either. He'll pick up on this.

Please contact PDWRA, you'll get advice and support and he will be found a forever home - often with another pug if he's happy in that scenario.

pugwelfare-rescue.org.uk/surrendering-your-pug/

Good luck.

Olderthanthetrees · 06/03/2024 14:05

Goatymum · 05/03/2024 09:12

Why didn’t you get him neutered first thing, esp as you did your cat?
I don’t know much about dogs but I’m sure that you should neuter them too.
And training is also v important- h have many friends who have dogs and know they take them to be socialised/trained.

It’s not always necessary to neuter. It’s done very frequently in uk but half of EU don’t automatically
do so. In this case it’s probably a good idea.

Zanatdy · 06/03/2024 14:08

Blossomo · 04/03/2024 16:19

Yes still got his nuts

That’s why I had mine done at 10 months as he started cocking his leg indoors.

Verv · 06/03/2024 14:09

Please rehome him to someone who's not going to be annoyed every time they look at him.
Dogs are sentient beings, they pick up on these things. Poor lad.

Zanatdy · 06/03/2024 14:14

Blossomo · 05/03/2024 07:32

I care about him and would not want any harm to come to him, yes, since having children my opinion has changed as my responsibilities changed and ultimately they come first!

Your title says you hate him, so you hate him and care about him? I personally think you should rehome him to a decent home where he can have a chance to be loved. It’s not true that dogs only care about where their next meal is coming from.

PrincessZelda89 · 06/03/2024 18:22

Blossomo · 05/03/2024 07:31

This might be an unpopular opinion but I treat my dog like the ANIMAL, yes ANIMAL that he is. I do not love him like I love my children and to think that is a possibility I think is slightly unhinged. I know lots of people have huge bonds with their dogs and treat them like humans, but realistically, all they care about is where their next meal is coming from. I feed him, walk him, clean him, and he gets lots of love from my children. My SIL treats her dog like an actual human and in all honesty, I think it is quite sad.

You literally sound insufferable. One of those parents who think their greatest achievement in life is birthing children and that anyone who values pets over having children is ‘sad’. I bet you think having a child is the only true way to know love too? Why did you even get a dog in the first place if it’s just an ‘animal who only cares about where its next meal comes from’. Poor dog deserves a home where it will be loved and cherished.

Canthave2manycats · 06/03/2024 18:59

Blossomo · 05/03/2024 12:22

As much as I appreciate your concern, it is not as if he is being mistreated, Millions of dogs are left outside to starve, this is absolutely not the case, I just dont have the time that I used to. Putting him through the change of adapting to another family would be more stressful for him at this point I think

He IS being mistreated. He is neglected. You hate him every time you look at him, just wow!!

Why did you get him in the first place? Did you ever have any feelings for him? If you did, I cannot for the life of me understand why you'd switch those off once you had children!

I think your pug's half-life is one hell of a lot sadder than your SIL's dog's is!!

Blueberrymuffin80 · 02/06/2024 20:18

"This might be an unpopular opinion but I treat my dog like the ANIMAL, yes ANIMAL that he is. I do not love him like I love my children and to think that is a possibility I think is slightly unhinged. I know lots of people have huge bonds with their dogs and treat them like humans, but realistically, all they care about is where their next meal is coming from. I feed him, walk him, clean him, and he gets lots of love from my children. My SIL treats her dog like an actual human and in all honesty, I think it is quite sad."

I know this is a old thread but totally agree with this.
I've had quite the chuckle at the posters on here they sound quite insane.
You would've got more sympathy if you'd posted about hating your child.
Posters have got a complete backwards way of thinking.
A dog is just that a dog.

CrappySack · 03/06/2024 08:29

Blueberrymuffin80 · 02/06/2024 20:18

"This might be an unpopular opinion but I treat my dog like the ANIMAL, yes ANIMAL that he is. I do not love him like I love my children and to think that is a possibility I think is slightly unhinged. I know lots of people have huge bonds with their dogs and treat them like humans, but realistically, all they care about is where their next meal is coming from. I feed him, walk him, clean him, and he gets lots of love from my children. My SIL treats her dog like an actual human and in all honesty, I think it is quite sad."

I know this is a old thread but totally agree with this.
I've had quite the chuckle at the posters on here they sound quite insane.
You would've got more sympathy if you'd posted about hating your child.
Posters have got a complete backwards way of thinking.
A dog is just that a dog.

Humans are animals too 🫣

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