to think my dentist should not have f*****d up my first botox?

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I had my first botox a few weeks ago, I asked for a subtle eye brow lift and came away with a completely immobile and bruised left side of my forehead. I can't raise my left eyebrow at all, it's actually lower than it was in the first place. The right side has only a tiny movement, but at least it doesn't feel heavy.

In the two week review his reponse to this was to say he'd 'make a note'. Apparently this was so that next time he'd do better. I honestly have no intention of going back. I've lost trust completely.

Is this normal? I signed all sorts of forms before the treatment, but assumed he'd do a good job. He's known me for years. In retrospect he was just looking to sell me as much as possible.

Do I just have to suck it up and wait for the botox to wear off? I mean i know i just have to wait for the botox to wear off, but shouldn't he be offering me a refund or something?

The facial nerves don't just appear around your mouth, they run across your whole face. Dentists have to know where they all are. And your teeth and jaw are attached to the other bones in your face and they affect each other, similarly with the tissues.

Can't believe people don't realise dentists study the face (and yes, eyebrows!). It really isn't just all about teeth, baffling that people wouldn't trust them with botox.

While they're better than a beauty salon to get your botox done they're still not ideal. I'd prefer to go to a plastic surgeon; someone who does this sort of procedure day in day out, not someone doing it as a sideline for some extra cash. I've also seen lip filler done by dentists. You really need an eye for the aesthetics as it was not great at all.

A dentist studied dentistry which is nothing to do with aesthetics of the face.
You would ideally want a doctor or nurse with years of experience. Look at Save Face website, they can show you how to find legit practitioners.
I would not go back there, they clearly administered too much/ in wrong place. It will go down, so don't worry too much.
Dentists are for teeth only.

And that's totally fair enough that you'd want it done by someone who does it day in day out rather than perhaps a few days a week.

No one is forcing people to get it done by any random doctor/dentist to quote another poster. As with any medical procedure you should do your due diligence and research the individual.

But to describe dentists offering botox as a money making sideline totally diminishes thier expertise in this area. Of course they get paid, who does botox for free?! Botox often enhances cosmetic dental work and can be part of a whole package of what they do. It isn't just a totally random sideline.

I really don't think my dentist studied eyebrows. She's more about flossing, gums and repairing the hideous dental work of my childhood where harebrained student dental nurses practiced on our second teeth. She did once pass on a recommendation about a plastic surgeon because when she had work done she did go to a plastic surgeon rather than wandering down the corridor to one of her colleagues.

The dermapathologist who removed a skin cancer out of my face on my temple really had studied eyebrows. He told me that the gap between the end of my eyebrow and my hairline was narrow. He said if he just closed the incision I'd have an eyebrow ending up in my hairline which would look very peculiar. He told me he was going to rotate the flap so I would have an extra incision but with a much better result. The scar is tiny, very minor and hidden in my hairline and my eyebrow is where it belongs. He had pathology training and was doing MOHs surgery which I can assure you your dentist can't do.

It's not entirely random, no, but I would rather a plastic surgeon than someone who offers aesthetics treatments in addition to dentistry. I've seen some dreadful lips done by dentists, for example.

But if actual dentistry is their day job then Botox is only a sideline. A medical/dental professional who does aesthetics all day every day is very different to one who does it on the side as it’s very much the ‘in’ way to make a quick buck at the minute. I know which one I’d rather have injecting my face..

So you can't get an actual dentist appointment for love nor money but they're now doing side hussles of disfiguring women's faces instead.

Jeez I've heard it all now!

I have said it before and I will say it again - dentists doing Botox in their spare time has absolutely nothing to do with people being unable to get NHS dental appointments. That is completely down to a lack of government funding and resources. Frankly in all likelihood most dentists are probably only doing the Botox to stay afloat!

Just get a Groupon next time for a back alley.

Nothing is 100% there’s a risk with everything we always tend to think it will never happen to us it’s always someone else it goes wrong for

You need to see a proper medical doctor for any and all aesthetic treatments. A dentist simply does not have the requisite training to administer aesthetic treatments. I don’t blame you as many people think that a trained medical practitioner like a dentist should be a “safe” choice but they simply aren’t experts in this field.

Luckily for you the Botox will wear off in a few months. Next time go to a doctor who is specifically trained in aesthetics. Sorry this happened to you x

I know someone who is an eye doctor and does botox too. I suppose that's getting closer🤔
When I used to get botox, the Doctor always had a different female student with him on a 2 day course. It cost them several hundred. They had to be in the health profession and - I think - a knowledge of injections.

Of course dentists are medically trained.
Your ignorance is astounding.

Are you saying that as a nurse you’re more medically trained than a dentist? 🤔

You don’t know someone called Katy by any chance do you, OP?

Dentist here. Will be sticking to teeth!

Some harsh responses on here OP, perhaps you should get it moved to style and beauty? 😜

I have botox for pain management, including some in my forehead. The risks of unevenness, drooping eye lid etc was all explained, as I'm sure it would have been to you or on the forms you signed.

My first round, I got a bit of a droopy eyelid on one side; it wasn't noticeable to look at but when I was applying mascara and trying to lift my eyelid that's when I noticed it. When I went for the second round, I related that back to him and he "made a note" to ensure I get it just a touch higher in my forehead so that it reduces the risk of it affecting my eyelids. That's what your dentist would have meant by "making a note", that you seem so disgruntled by.

As a PP said, you may have rubbed your face or lay on it which can make it migrate.

And comparing it to a hairdressers 24 hour allergy test is ridiculous, are you going to have him make 1 injection, wait 2 weeks, then do another one, wait 2 weeks... every spot is different anyway so it just wouldn't work like that.

Don't be an arsehole and leave a negative review, just because you had some side effects that you would have known were side effects.

The first person I ever went to for botox for my crows feet was a dentist and i did not get great results. When I went back after two weeks she told me I needed to find someone who does filler to sort the crows feet which hadn't gone. In the end a nurse who was recommended to me told me I didn't need filler, just botox putting in the correct place. He's been doing my botox for 5 years now without any issues.
Find someone with lots of experience and who comes recommended to correct your brow lift. You might have to wait for your current botox to wear off tho.

I go to a dentist for mine, she's amazing, way better than the weird specialist I went to. This can happen, and there's not much they can do. Did you follow all the instructions about not drinking or taking ibuprofen before the procedure?

You know what’s crazy? Injecting a neurotoxin into your face, right near your brain and expecting everything to be ok. SMH.

Botox can and does leak into the surrounding tissues.
It’s also unpredictable, although doses generally affect one person the same as the next, some people can be more sensitive than others.

Before anyone asks my credentials. I have long term (not worn off) Botox injuries and have been under a specialist consultant for some time.

Dentists doing Botox is really really common
also some hygienists have the appropriate qualification as well
they study the skull in a lot of detail - head and neck anatomy is their / our ‘thing’

the op should go back and discuss this with the dentist tho

"Would I be crazy to leave a public review saying this guy doesn't really listen, just tries to squeeze as cash much out of his clients as possible and that he's also clumsy and doesn't give a shit?"

Only if you are happy to be sued for Defamation !!