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To think this is a clear bit of film that all MP’s should watch, demonstrating why men in women’s sport is ludicrous?

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99doshredballoons · 02/03/2024 12:02

American and sport based but the implication and consequences are clear.

Hopefully this stays as an AIBU rather than being either deleted or moved to another section.

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Dotjones · 02/03/2024 12:12

I don't have an issue with transwomen competing against real women, sport should be a meritocracy and the best should rise to the top. Sex, race, age, sexuality etc should be irrelevant - the winner should be the fastest/strongest.

I think we should abolish divisions based on sex and age in the same way that we've abolished divisions like the Negro American League and Eastern Colored League in baseball. Nowadays people compete in the same league regardless of race. It should be the same for age and gender. There should be one category/league/pyramid and all players compete against one another. Clearly sports would need organising into divisions to accomodate all the people who wanted to play, and there would be a transition period whilst things settled into a natural order.

Using football (soccer) as an example, the women's teams could be slotted into the main competitions. Promotion and relegation would then raise or lower them into their appropriate place. Better yet, just base it on market forces and abolish the separate male/female teams. Just have one team and allow them to field as many men/women as they want. It will naturally level out, the best women will find places in the teams and will bump male players out, pushing them lower down the leagues.

Itslegitimatesalvage · 02/03/2024 12:14

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AnEmbarrasmentofWitches · 02/03/2024 12:14

Dotjones · 02/03/2024 12:12

I don't have an issue with transwomen competing against real women, sport should be a meritocracy and the best should rise to the top. Sex, race, age, sexuality etc should be irrelevant - the winner should be the fastest/strongest.

I think we should abolish divisions based on sex and age in the same way that we've abolished divisions like the Negro American League and Eastern Colored League in baseball. Nowadays people compete in the same league regardless of race. It should be the same for age and gender. There should be one category/league/pyramid and all players compete against one another. Clearly sports would need organising into divisions to accomodate all the people who wanted to play, and there would be a transition period whilst things settled into a natural order.

Using football (soccer) as an example, the women's teams could be slotted into the main competitions. Promotion and relegation would then raise or lower them into their appropriate place. Better yet, just base it on market forces and abolish the separate male/female teams. Just have one team and allow them to field as many men/women as they want. It will naturally level out, the best women will find places in the teams and will bump male players out, pushing them lower down the leagues.

I assume this is satire.

Surely nobody is this stupid?

99doshredballoons · 02/03/2024 12:16

I won’t allow the posters comments to be repeated a third time! Clearly ludicrous and no, they don’t genuinely believe it. Just another way to try and cancel women.

Laughable really, as you say..

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MistyGreenAndBlue · 02/03/2024 12:17

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Dotjones · 02/03/2024 12:12

I don't have an issue with transwomen competing against real women, sport should be a meritocracy and the best should rise to the top. Sex, race, age, sexuality etc should be irrelevant - the winner should be the fastest/strongest.

I think we should abolish divisions based on sex and age in the same way that we've abolished divisions like the Negro American League and Eastern Colored League in baseball. Nowadays people compete in the same league regardless of race. It should be the same for age and gender. There should be one category/league/pyramid and all players compete against one another. Clearly sports would need organising into divisions to accomodate all the people who wanted to play, and there would be a transition period whilst things settled into a natural order.

Using football (soccer) as an example, the women's teams could be slotted into the main competitions. Promotion and relegation would then raise or lower them into their appropriate place. Better yet, just base it on market forces and abolish the separate male/female teams. Just have one team and allow them to field as many men/women as they want. It will naturally level out, the best women will find places in the teams and will bump male players out, pushing them lower down the leagues.

This is utter stupidity. We would end up with only young male athletes for everything.

Perhaps that's what you want?

99doshredballoons · 02/03/2024 12:20

Please stop repeating the ridiculous post, it is not worth the time or consideration.

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CaveMum · 02/03/2024 12:21

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99doshredballoons · 02/03/2024 12:21

Let’s have a read of scientific fact instead..

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0031938422003420

To think this is a clear bit of film that all MP’s should watch, demonstrating why men in women’s sport is ludicrous?
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99doshredballoons · 02/03/2024 12:21

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Although aren’t satirists supposed to be funny or clever or both? No evidence of that there.

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PurpleSparkledPixie · 02/03/2024 12:22

I think we should abolish divisions based on sex and age

Oh good. No more need for parents to get cold and wet watching their kids compete in sport every weekend. Just let the dads do it and the women and kids can stay at home. No more dance kids, no more junior leagues, no point to school sports days...

MistyGreenAndBlue · 02/03/2024 12:22

I've seen this before. Totally nails it. But as can be seen on this thread, those who are devoted to TWAW and the TRA/MRA cause won't be swayed.
Everyone else already knows this anyway

CaveMum · 02/03/2024 12:23

I also point you to these stats which demonstrate teenage boys outperforming elite female athletes from around the age of 14.

To think this is a clear bit of film that all MP’s should watch, demonstrating why men in women’s sport is ludicrous?
99doshredballoons · 02/03/2024 12:26

MistyGreenAndBlue · 02/03/2024 12:22

I've seen this before. Totally nails it. But as can be seen on this thread, those who are devoted to TWAW and the TRA/MRA cause won't be swayed.
Everyone else already knows this anyway

Yes true. I’m talking about women’s rights and not having men in women’s sports (or spaces in general). Always high jacked by men warbling on about twaw, even though I’m always talking about men. And women’s rights, not trans people. But that is the only currency available because scientifically, not a leg to stand on

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SignoraVolpe · 02/03/2024 12:30

Dotjones · 02/03/2024 12:12

I don't have an issue with transwomen competing against real women, sport should be a meritocracy and the best should rise to the top. Sex, race, age, sexuality etc should be irrelevant - the winner should be the fastest/strongest.

I think we should abolish divisions based on sex and age in the same way that we've abolished divisions like the Negro American League and Eastern Colored League in baseball. Nowadays people compete in the same league regardless of race. It should be the same for age and gender. There should be one category/league/pyramid and all players compete against one another. Clearly sports would need organising into divisions to accomodate all the people who wanted to play, and there would be a transition period whilst things settled into a natural order.

Using football (soccer) as an example, the women's teams could be slotted into the main competitions. Promotion and relegation would then raise or lower them into their appropriate place. Better yet, just base it on market forces and abolish the separate male/female teams. Just have one team and allow them to field as many men/women as they want. It will naturally level out, the best women will find places in the teams and will bump male players out, pushing them lower down the leagues.

Have you ever played sport?
Do you hate sport?
Or do you just hate women?

Clettering · 02/03/2024 12:33

I assume @Dotjones is being satirical to show how ludicrous this idea would be in practice.

Hankunamatata · 02/03/2024 12:35

Dotjones · 02/03/2024 12:12

I don't have an issue with transwomen competing against real women, sport should be a meritocracy and the best should rise to the top. Sex, race, age, sexuality etc should be irrelevant - the winner should be the fastest/strongest.

I think we should abolish divisions based on sex and age in the same way that we've abolished divisions like the Negro American League and Eastern Colored League in baseball. Nowadays people compete in the same league regardless of race. It should be the same for age and gender. There should be one category/league/pyramid and all players compete against one another. Clearly sports would need organising into divisions to accomodate all the people who wanted to play, and there would be a transition period whilst things settled into a natural order.

Using football (soccer) as an example, the women's teams could be slotted into the main competitions. Promotion and relegation would then raise or lower them into their appropriate place. Better yet, just base it on market forces and abolish the separate male/female teams. Just have one team and allow them to field as many men/women as they want. It will naturally level out, the best women will find places in the teams and will bump male players out, pushing them lower down the leagues.

Bahaha. Well done for putting women in sport back a 100 years

AlisonDonut · 02/03/2024 12:39

Dot - you are so right. People keep saying that there is a man in his 50s included in this girls college team and I have no idea why they keep saying this.

Please, point him out' I cry and they never do.

To think this is a clear bit of film that all MP’s should watch, demonstrating why men in women’s sport is ludicrous?
Philomenacunk1 · 02/03/2024 12:39

Dotjones · 02/03/2024 12:12

I don't have an issue with transwomen competing against real women, sport should be a meritocracy and the best should rise to the top. Sex, race, age, sexuality etc should be irrelevant - the winner should be the fastest/strongest.

I think we should abolish divisions based on sex and age in the same way that we've abolished divisions like the Negro American League and Eastern Colored League in baseball. Nowadays people compete in the same league regardless of race. It should be the same for age and gender. There should be one category/league/pyramid and all players compete against one another. Clearly sports would need organising into divisions to accomodate all the people who wanted to play, and there would be a transition period whilst things settled into a natural order.

Using football (soccer) as an example, the women's teams could be slotted into the main competitions. Promotion and relegation would then raise or lower them into their appropriate place. Better yet, just base it on market forces and abolish the separate male/female teams. Just have one team and allow them to field as many men/women as they want. It will naturally level out, the best women will find places in the teams and will bump male players out, pushing them lower down the leagues.

Seriously?! Wow 🙄

GretaGip · 02/03/2024 12:39

Very interesting video, thank you for the link.

As always, thank you to all the women who are brave enough to stand up against this travesty.

That snippet with Riley Gaines being safely removed from those TRAs at a university was horrific.

Thank you Riley, Sharon, Martina et al 💐

Maireas · 02/03/2024 12:42

Please stop quoting @Dotjones in full. It just makes it dominate the thread.
I agree with you, OP. Also the clip of the six footer pushing over a girl.

ArabellaScott · 02/03/2024 12:42

Dotjones' post provides a very useful illustration with perfect timing.

#Letthemspeak

Clettering · 02/03/2024 12:44

Maireas · 02/03/2024 12:42

Please stop quoting @Dotjones in full. It just makes it dominate the thread.
I agree with you, OP. Also the clip of the six footer pushing over a girl.

Why not? It’s a perfectly adequate response to the madness of letting men compete in women’s sports.

AliceAforethought · 02/03/2024 12:44

Clettering · 02/03/2024 12:33

I assume @Dotjones is being satirical to show how ludicrous this idea would be in practice.

But there's no movement towards putting anything like this - i.e. abolishing categories in sport - in practice, so no need to satirise it.
Very strange post, whether serious or not.

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