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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

To think this is a clear bit of film that all MP’s should watch, demonstrating why men in women’s sport is ludicrous?

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99doshredballoons · 02/03/2024 12:02

American and sport based but the implication and consequences are clear.

Hopefully this stays as an AIBU rather than being either deleted or moved to another section.

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AliceAforethought · 03/03/2024 14:55

Girlontherailreplacementbusservice · 03/03/2024 14:38

Please make sure it's a lady shark.

Nah, a whopping great male shark that identifies as a lady shark would be more appropriate.

Girlontherailreplacementbusservice · 03/03/2024 15:00

AliceAforethought · 03/03/2024 14:55

Nah, a whopping great male shark that identifies as a lady shark would be more appropriate.

That is a lady shark, stop gate keeping. If Jaws says he is a she we should support her.

ASportsMum · 03/03/2024 15:12

I wonder how MPs and sports funders who are parents would reply if they themselves had spent years paying money to their children's sports clubs and individual coaches, paying gym/fitness training fees, paying for kit, ferrying their children to training camps and competitions all over the country, and then internationally as they start to climb the rankings and aim for the top, only to discover that to aim for the top is pointless because their child is a girl who is competing against men. The cost for families in terms of time and money is huge when one has a very able young athlete in the family. In some sports, there's no point in bothering if that athlete is female.

It's not just the competition results in themselves that are affected as you climb higher. It's things like university scholarships, sponsorship, media coverage and grant funding which can be based on where you are placed in the national rankings for your sport. Having men in the top places of women's rankings rubbishes this.

Which sports will still allow male competitors in the female categories at this year's Olympics? I know several have seen sense and stopped it but don't know about others.

DialSquare · 03/03/2024 15:19

Female Great White sharks are generally larger than the males. Deep Blue for example.

Froodwithatowel · 03/03/2024 15:25

AliceAforethought · 03/03/2024 13:41

The stupidest thing is that 95% of posters thought YWNBU, so it's ridiculous to pander to the tiny minority... but then pandering to the tiny minority describes this whole situation to a T.

That. ^^ Not even a sensible tiny minority. But yay misogyny.

AliceAforethought · 03/03/2024 15:25

DialSquare · 03/03/2024 15:19

Female Great White sharks are generally larger than the males. Deep Blue for example.

Well, you live and learn! 🦈
Deep Blue is gorgeous... I feel sorry for her though, 50 and pregnant!

Sorry, as you were.

Theytheythey · 03/03/2024 15:42

And while some might dismiss this latest incident in Yorkshire as insignificant, and ‘just let this poor young trans girl play with the other girls’ - there are trans women Sunday league players being ‘invited’ to the UN in Geneva to discuss ‘The Transformative Future of Women’s Sports’. Nathalie Washington (grab from their public Instagram account attached) shared a platform with a genuinely ‘brave’ Khalida Popal - who is involved with the Afghanistan Women’s National Football team and who had to deal with living under the Taliban. Nathalie Washington is one of several trans women footballers who are keen that there’s healthy representation of trans women footballers in women’s football. We can’t afford to lose these smaller battles - they are crucial to preserving women’s sports (sorry for preaching to the converted!)

To think this is a clear bit of film that all MP’s should watch, demonstrating why men in women’s sport is ludicrous?
Ramblingnamechanger · 03/03/2024 16:04

OP did you know your post has been moved from AIBU. That is most unreasonable in my view.

Emotionalsupportviper · 03/03/2024 16:09

Dotjones · 02/03/2024 12:12

I don't have an issue with transwomen competing against real women, sport should be a meritocracy and the best should rise to the top. Sex, race, age, sexuality etc should be irrelevant - the winner should be the fastest/strongest.

I think we should abolish divisions based on sex and age in the same way that we've abolished divisions like the Negro American League and Eastern Colored League in baseball. Nowadays people compete in the same league regardless of race. It should be the same for age and gender. There should be one category/league/pyramid and all players compete against one another. Clearly sports would need organising into divisions to accomodate all the people who wanted to play, and there would be a transition period whilst things settled into a natural order.

Using football (soccer) as an example, the women's teams could be slotted into the main competitions. Promotion and relegation would then raise or lower them into their appropriate place. Better yet, just base it on market forces and abolish the separate male/female teams. Just have one team and allow them to field as many men/women as they want. It will naturally level out, the best women will find places in the teams and will bump male players out, pushing them lower down the leagues.

Are you serious?

You should do stand-up.

nothingcomestonothing · 03/03/2024 16:16

Ramblingnamechanger · 03/03/2024 16:04

OP did you know your post has been moved from AIBU. That is most unreasonable in my view.

@MNHQ why has this thread been moved to the naughty corner? Surely sports is a matter of interest to lots of parents, not just feminists?

lifeturnsonadime · 03/03/2024 16:18

The monitors have really been out this weekend. A few have moved for no go reason.

99doshredballoons · 03/03/2024 16:26

Theytheythey · 03/03/2024 15:42

And while some might dismiss this latest incident in Yorkshire as insignificant, and ‘just let this poor young trans girl play with the other girls’ - there are trans women Sunday league players being ‘invited’ to the UN in Geneva to discuss ‘The Transformative Future of Women’s Sports’. Nathalie Washington (grab from their public Instagram account attached) shared a platform with a genuinely ‘brave’ Khalida Popal - who is involved with the Afghanistan Women’s National Football team and who had to deal with living under the Taliban. Nathalie Washington is one of several trans women footballers who are keen that there’s healthy representation of trans women footballers in women’s football. We can’t afford to lose these smaller battles - they are crucial to preserving women’s sports (sorry for preaching to the converted!)

Stonewall. Full of shit. Beneficial to men, shit.

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99doshredballoons · 03/03/2024 16:28

Theytheythey · 03/03/2024 15:42

And while some might dismiss this latest incident in Yorkshire as insignificant, and ‘just let this poor young trans girl play with the other girls’ - there are trans women Sunday league players being ‘invited’ to the UN in Geneva to discuss ‘The Transformative Future of Women’s Sports’. Nathalie Washington (grab from their public Instagram account attached) shared a platform with a genuinely ‘brave’ Khalida Popal - who is involved with the Afghanistan Women’s National Football team and who had to deal with living under the Taliban. Nathalie Washington is one of several trans women footballers who are keen that there’s healthy representation of trans women footballers in women’s football. We can’t afford to lose these smaller battles - they are crucial to preserving women’s sports (sorry for preaching to the converted!)

>>sorry for preaching to the converted!

Yep. Was good in AIBU as people have seen the posts who might not have thought about the issues before. But here we are, all agreeing with each other again. Because it is absolutely fucking obvious.

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Jojoanna · 03/03/2024 17:59

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WickedSerious · 03/03/2024 18:02

AnEmbarrasmentofWitches · 02/03/2024 12:14

I assume this is satire.

Surely nobody is this stupid?

I think the fact that it's hard to tell these days says it all really.

Waitwhat23 · 03/03/2024 18:06

nothingcomestonothing · 03/03/2024 16:16

@MNHQ why has this thread been moved to the naughty corner? Surely sports is a matter of interest to lots of parents, not just feminists?

@mnhq doesn't go anywhere apparently - you need to tag a specific moderator or ask them via a report if you're wanting an answer.

99doshredballoons · 03/03/2024 18:48

WickedSerious · 03/03/2024 18:02

I think the fact that it's hard to tell these days says it all really.

Yes.

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99doshredballoons · 03/03/2024 18:48

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99doshredballoons · 03/03/2024 18:49

Ramblingnamechanger · 03/03/2024 16:04

OP did you know your post has been moved from AIBU. That is most unreasonable in my view.

Yes. Censorship, almost.

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fabio12 · 03/03/2024 18:52

Went to watch and the video has gone and comments turned off?

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marmaduke12 · 04/03/2024 08:32

I watched it less than an hour ago. Are you sure?

marmaduke12 · 04/03/2024 08:32

Def still there.

marmaduke12 · 04/03/2024 08:57

Imagine being his parents. I'd have to move countries and change my name. The shame!! Yep, that's my son who pretended to be a woman to win medals as he has no morals. Eeeek!!

Emotionalsupportviper · 04/03/2024 10:01

marmaduke12 · 04/03/2024 08:57

Imagine being his parents. I'd have to move countries and change my name. The shame!! Yep, that's my son who pretended to be a woman to win medals as he has no morals. Eeeek!!

Oh - I don't know.

Emily Bridges mother is fully supportive of him and is angry that he has been banned form competing against women. It's causing "inexcusable" harm to her "daughter's" health, apparently.

https://www.hollywoodsmagazine.com/emily-bridges-mother-real-name-parents-physical-threats/#Who_is_Cyclist_Emily_Bridges_mother_What_did_her_mother_say_after_she_received_physical_threats

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Cyclist Emily Bridges mother Sandy Sullivan, father, parents, real name, received "physical threats, height, weight, transition before. career

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