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Just told DH I will divorce him over a fucking wedding

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KeenHiker · 29/02/2024 13:55

This is my first post. I think my head’s going to explode.
BiL has shown no interest whatsoever in my daughters, not my eldest who isn’t my husband’s or his actual niece!
We first met SiL at a baptism of cousin’s. She brought personalised Easter eggs for cousins’ kids and my youngest. I immediately went over and said my eldest would be jealous in a jokey way but she had no idea that my eldest even existed!
Three years on neither kids have been distinguished by them at all.
Husband is close to his brother.
One Sunday last month we are at in-laws’ and eldest said that SiL had taken youngest out in rain and told eldest to give them a minute. When I went out to see what was happening she had just asked youngest to be a flower girl. MiL knew and everyone was happy. 10 year old was really struggling and burst into tears in car.
Sister-in-Law has a sister with three stepkids. Two lads virtually same age as her, both have partners and one has baby, as well as fourteen year old who lives with them. Her own daughter will be other flower girl.
invitations come but my eldest isn’t invited. DH is best man, he assumes she is invited but just not on invitation. Clarifies! No! It would mean 5 others plus baby would have to be invited.
I went mad and said none of us are going or I am off. All he could do was slag my ex off and this was the thanks he got for stepping up.
He has stepped up. You wouldn’t know she wasn’t his but this is too much. If eldest is invited I could see how they would have to invite the 14 year old step niece but not the two eldest step nephews who are independent.
I did ring MiL but she’s not getting involved. I am fucking fuming.

OP posts:
Greenpolkadot · 03/03/2024 15:24

KeenHiker · 29/02/2024 14:05

He has made it very clear that youngest is going to be in that wedding!

Let him get on with it then. Don't involve yourself and you and your daughter have a nice weekend away

Katbum · 03/03/2024 15:43

KeenHiker · 03/03/2024 10:43

I’m coming over as a dick. I know I am. The whole extended family know that she wasn’t wanted and is there under sufferance. She will see her sister being called for a photograph with her great-grandmother along with every other child in the family apart from her. The concern that they have is my reaction to this photo and that it’s executed properly not that my child will be upset and why the fuck can’t she be in it anyway?
They want to stop the upset but they’re not sorry for it, they don’t think that they are fundamentally wrong for doing what they did. Fucking flattered that she’d want to come like she’s nothing and nothing to them. MiL got involved to stop awkwardness not because she thought they were wrong. I am fucking raging. He genuinely doesn’t get it other than the logistics and that she might feel left out. He doesn’t see why his brother would want her there as she isn’t his niece even though he says he sees her as a daughter.

OP - you need to understand that your daughter is not these people’s family. She is an in law to them. As much as you think she should be their family, she isn’t. Life is going to be hard if you can’t accept this, and help your daughter accept it as normal.

DetOliviaBenson · 03/03/2024 15:45

KeenHiker · 03/03/2024 10:57

Ah Jesus I can’t think straight! I don’t know what to do.

I don't think you're being a dick, and I still wouldn't go.

2Hot2Handle · 03/03/2024 16:01

Winterstormm · 03/03/2024 15:12

DH would have parental responsibility if he adopted a child, just as he would for a biological child. OP is considering divorcing her husband and if she does, he won't have the right to see his step daughter. Did op mention if her side of the family are involved in her dds' lives?

Yes OP did talk about DD’s biological dad’s side of the family.

EsmeSusanOgg · 03/03/2024 16:03

Surprisedbuthappy · 03/03/2024 11:18

OP, the only dicks are the people who would exclude a 10-year old child from a family event and the people who think that's perfectly reasonable! However, I agree that you should all go to the wedding now, otherwise you're the one excluding her.

Deal with your DH separately as he's the one that should have made it clear that excluding your eldest was unacceptable.

Agree with this. So many AHs!

EsmeSusanOgg · 03/03/2024 16:05

Katbum · 03/03/2024 15:43

OP - you need to understand that your daughter is not these people’s family. She is an in law to them. As much as you think she should be their family, she isn’t. Life is going to be hard if you can’t accept this, and help your daughter accept it as normal.

Is it normal? Genuine question. I'm not aware of any friends/ relatives where a you g child would be excluded because they are a step. It seems quite shocking to me.

Jeneregrettaisrien · 03/03/2024 16:08

Singlemumto4k · 02/03/2024 21:22

If its a child free wedding apart from the 2 flower girls then unfortunately there's nothing you can do however this should have been stipulated months ago... to tell your husband he can't be best man is a bit a-hole-ish as alot of people opt for child free wedding to cut down costs and allow the adults to relax without having to chase around after children all night.

The OP has said that she doesn’t know who else is invited and whether there are children or not. The only thing that is certain is that it is a stepchild-free wedding…

EsmeSusanOgg · 03/03/2024 16:08

QuillBill · 03/03/2024 14:00

Inviting three people out of a family of four, and excluding a ten year old is cruel, even if the wedding is child-free. What did they expect your ten year old to do? She can hardly stay home in her own

I agree. What were they thinking?

They were not. Clearly. That or they have zero empathy.

Which is why OP is understandably upset!

burnoutbabe · 03/03/2024 16:19

Won't the great gran photo exclude most people there?

The new bride won't be in it. Not her sister and those 2 girls (I assume 14 year old also invited now)

Nor any partner of the grooms siblings. Like the op.
Nor her mother in law (or father in law maybe) if it was blood only.

So lots of not included people.

ImTheFemmeOne · 03/03/2024 16:27

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 29/02/2024 19:25

Her mum is dead.

I presume she means her step-mum who is effectively her Mum now

WillYouPutYourCoatOn · 03/03/2024 16:32

2Hot2Handle · 03/03/2024 16:01

Yes OP did talk about DD’s biological dad’s side of the family.

No, she means OP's direct family (ie her mum and dad etc).

We already know the paternal family aren't involved. If OP's direct family aren't much cop either, it would go a long way to explaining why she's trying to force these people to be the family she hasn't had from anyone. Doesn't make it right still.

Vecna · 03/03/2024 16:36

I'm glad you're standing your ground for your daughter. When dh married you, he accepted her as family. If his family don't see it that way, he should correct them or distance them.

I have two cousins (one on each side) who are not biologically related to their fathers (my uncles). I never even knew until I was much older. Everyone treated them exactly the same. Always. No distinctions ever.

Winterstormm · 03/03/2024 16:40

2Hot2Handle · 03/03/2024 16:01

Yes OP did talk about DD’s biological dad’s side of the family.

I meant the maternal side, so the OP's family. Both dds are related to that side.

2Hot2Handle · 03/03/2024 16:47

WillYouPutYourCoatOn · 03/03/2024 16:32

No, she means OP's direct family (ie her mum and dad etc).

We already know the paternal family aren't involved. If OP's direct family aren't much cop either, it would go a long way to explaining why she's trying to force these people to be the family she hasn't had from anyone. Doesn't make it right still.

Oh, you’re right I misread that. I don’t understand the relevance, though? If OP’s family are in her life, both of her DDs are biologically hers, so one would assume they’d have the same treatment.

Regarding your use of the word “force” when it comes to being the family she hasn’t had, do you really think that’s a fair assessment? OP lives as a family of 4 with her two children and husband. Is she really being unreasonable expressing upset over the exclusion of one of the members of her household not being invited to a wedding that the other 3 were?

SmokedPaprikaPuffs · 03/03/2024 16:54

Op I was outraged on your behalf and your eldest daughter's, but after reading the message from the bride I think I'd now go to the wedding with your whole family of 4.
Also I can read several of the names you tried to scribble out, sorry.

WillYouPutYourCoatOn · 03/03/2024 16:57

2Hot2Handle · 03/03/2024 16:47

Oh, you’re right I misread that. I don’t understand the relevance, though? If OP’s family are in her life, both of her DDs are biologically hers, so one would assume they’d have the same treatment.

Regarding your use of the word “force” when it comes to being the family she hasn’t had, do you really think that’s a fair assessment? OP lives as a family of 4 with her two children and husband. Is she really being unreasonable expressing upset over the exclusion of one of the members of her household not being invited to a wedding that the other 3 were?

I don’t understand the relevance, though? If OP’s family are in her life, both of her DDs are biologically hers, so one would assume they’d have the same treatment.

The relevance is, that if OP's family aren't in her life, then the unrelated family are the only people in eldest DD's life, but remain an unrelated family. Neither her maternal or paternal family are. And for youngest DD, it's just her parental.

And "fair" is subjective. Because it's ok for the DH to say, "I will parent and raise this child as my own" but that's as far as it goes. She might want his parents to act as grandparents but they don't have to suddenly declare an unrelated child their granddaughter and act as such. But it goes beyond that, she actually feels absolute entitlement to this, and actually berates them if they don't act how she wants.

2Hot2Handle · 03/03/2024 17:11

WillYouPutYourCoatOn · 03/03/2024 16:57

I don’t understand the relevance, though? If OP’s family are in her life, both of her DDs are biologically hers, so one would assume they’d have the same treatment.

The relevance is, that if OP's family aren't in her life, then the unrelated family are the only people in eldest DD's life, but remain an unrelated family. Neither her maternal or paternal family are. And for youngest DD, it's just her parental.

And "fair" is subjective. Because it's ok for the DH to say, "I will parent and raise this child as my own" but that's as far as it goes. She might want his parents to act as grandparents but they don't have to suddenly declare an unrelated child their granddaughter and act as such. But it goes beyond that, she actually feels absolute entitlement to this, and actually berates them if they don't act how she wants.

To put my POV in simple terms, I think that the DH’s family aren’t kind people for treating the DDs differently. DH lives as a family of 4 and both daughters should have been included from the off.

OP is not wrong for wanting this, or for communicating this to DH and his family.

SIL has apologised for upsetting OP, but not for excluding daughter in the first place, if you read her messages. It’s good that she is trying to resolve this, but is missing the point that she excluded a member of DH’s family.

Jeschara · 03/03/2024 17:17

I am glad you are not going OP, if your husband is treating your eldest daughter as his, the family should be gracious enough to accept this and treat her the same. As for excluding her from the photo's words fail me.

WillYouPutYourCoatOn · 03/03/2024 17:17

2Hot2Handle · 03/03/2024 17:11

To put my POV in simple terms, I think that the DH’s family aren’t kind people for treating the DDs differently. DH lives as a family of 4 and both daughters should have been included from the off.

OP is not wrong for wanting this, or for communicating this to DH and his family.

SIL has apologised for upsetting OP, but not for excluding daughter in the first place, if you read her messages. It’s good that she is trying to resolve this, but is missing the point that she excluded a member of DH’s family.

I don't think she's wrong for wanting it.

I think she is wrong for feeling entitled to it, and acting like this when people don't want to do what she wants, when they are perfectly entitled not too.

If my brother married someone with a child, they would not suddenly be my niece. I would be perfectly nice and kind to them, and probably but a little birthday and Christmas present etc, but I'm not going to suddenly declare a completely unrelated child is my actual niece just because my brother has shacked up with her mum. She's a "step niece" if they are married (not that that's really a thing, step doesn't really go beyond the directs: mum/dad/brother/sister/daughter/son) but prior to that, she's my brother's girlfriend's daughter. I might think the child is brilliant. She's still not my niece. And that's ok.

Nanny0gg · 03/03/2024 17:19

MississippiAF · 03/03/2024 14:00

The fact she doesn’t see her DF’s family, doesn’t change anything at all. That’s the point people keep making. It doesn’t make her MORE a part of DH’s family.

It doesn't make her, no.

But I don't understand how knowing she has no other (functioning) family you wouldn't include them

I can only go by what I'd do.

WillYouPutYourCoatOn · 03/03/2024 17:21

Nanny0gg · 03/03/2024 17:19

It doesn't make her, no.

But I don't understand how knowing she has no other (functioning) family you wouldn't include them

I can only go by what I'd do.

I completely agree. You can only go by what you'd do.

Some people would say, well I must become her surrogate family because her own family don't bother. Some people would say it's not my responsibility to pick up the failings of two other families, who's responsibility it actually is.

What you can't do, is demand the stance on someone's behalf. Which is what OP is doing.

MississippiAF · 03/03/2024 17:25

OP, there’s no mention of your family. Do you have a relationship with them?

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 03/03/2024 17:40

Wedding photos always don't include everyone. When they start, you take DD1 somewhere else, "they're taking the photos now so DD2 and DH will be busy for a bit so why don't we go and do X?"

The photo probably won't include partners either - we have photos with elderly relatives which are literally blood only, no spouses or partners.

It's not unusually to only use the cute, little one in the wedding party and not every child. So the flower girl thing feels like a false lead.

DD1 didn't know she wasn't invited so for you and her not to go now means you're going to deliberately cause drama by telling her something she doesn't need to know about

Katbum · 03/03/2024 17:50

EsmeSusanOgg · 03/03/2024 16:05

Is it normal? Genuine question. I'm not aware of any friends/ relatives where a you g child would be excluded because they are a step. It seems quite shocking to me.

I think it is normal for a family to not see a stepchild the same as a bio child, yes. I think it is in fact very common - hence the stereotype of ‘wicked stepmother’, which is really just ‘this woman does not want to be my mummy.’ OP needs to manage her expectations and work on managing her daughter’s expectations too. Unfortunately, when you split with your child’s parent, your child no longer has a nuclear family and you need to help them navigate that, rather than expecting people who don’t care to accommodate the loss you have caused your child (stable parents who are together).

Katbum · 03/03/2024 17:56

My grandmother who is in her late 80s would absolutely be baffled if we presented her with a picture of her surrounded by her great grandchildren and my step kids were included. They aren’t her family and as nice as it would be for the kids to be treated as if they were - no. This is a thing they are doing to document a family moment, and sadly your elder daughter is not their family.

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