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So where is she?!

844 replies

Amillionmenwenttomowameadow · 29/02/2024 13:32

Princess Kate?

Internet is going nuts about it, the theories are insane.

Hope she’s ok

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FlibbertyGibbertyFlibberty · 01/03/2024 08:55

Her husband has already said thank you on her behalf. Who is she meant to be thanking? The people spreading wild rumours about her on the internet?

Charles chose to be more public about his health. She didn't. She's entitled to her privacy and to choose whether to make public statements about it.

Topseyt123 · 01/03/2024 08:56

Newchapterbeckons · 01/03/2024 08:41

She hasn’t spoken not for months. This is very concerning. People thanking on her behalf is not the same, it indicates she isn’t able to.

Utter bollocks. It indicates nothing of the sort, just that she wants her privacy without any obligation to provide entertainment to prurient and voyeuristic twats.

crockofshite · 01/03/2024 08:56

LucyLaundry · 29/02/2024 13:35

Recuperating until after Easter, just as they already told you.

exactly this.

no further explanation required.

ColleenDonaghy · 01/03/2024 08:56

I think she's very strongly advocating for herself and refusing to give up something so personal to the masses.

ToffeeTalk · 01/03/2024 08:57

User7825525 · 01/03/2024 08:46

Exactly, the issue is not really about invasion of privacy (of course people will allow her the time and rest required to recover) but the really odd way the PR has been handled. It’s clearly possible at this stage to put out two sentences thanking the public for their well wishes like what Charles did. There is no surgery in the world complex enough that the patient cannot approve two lines of text 8 weeks later. By not doing this they’re adding fuel to the fact that she’s either entirely incapacitated or recovering well but can’t be bothered to update or thank the public.

The recent update is essentially telling people to fuck off. The tone is unusually harsh for an official statement and the sentence grammatically incorrect. No word of thanks or any fluff fillers that you would expect.

I agree. The statement is quite out of kilter with all usual statements from the various palaces and is frankly rude. Bad call. It would be so easy to craft a polite statement but instead they've gone for aggressive.

All the various circumstances together is what warrants a polite statement including thanks to well wishers.

Something is definitely up because if it's not it would be so easy for KP to counter.

ColleenDonaghy · 01/03/2024 08:58

Newchapterbeckons · 01/03/2024 08:37

Because it is totally standard royal protocol. After a few days - maybe a week or two it always happens without fail.

The King isn’t working, and has cancer but took the time to give his heartfelt thanks. It is a glaring omission that Kate has not done this.

Charles is working, just not doing engagements with loads of people.

underthebun · 01/03/2024 08:58

And a ‘different plan’ would prevent a two line statement of thanks from her would it? I think not.

I don’t think not giving a thanks is indicative of anything. Clearly they are trying to set boundaries

FlibbertyGibbertyFlibberty · 01/03/2024 08:58

She and her team are entitled to feel exasperated at the nonsense being spread about her online and to respond tersely to it. That publication got the response they deserved.

captainsudoku · 01/03/2024 08:59

Newchapterbeckons · 01/03/2024 08:43

My guess is that KP were desperately hoping there would be sufficient progress that a more buoyant update could be released. Obviously that hasn’t happened. Now no one knows what to do.

I wondered about this too. I thought the tone of the statement was a bit panicky and I hope she does recover well soon.

ToffeeTalk · 01/03/2024 09:00

FlibbertyGibbertyFlibberty · 01/03/2024 08:58

She and her team are entitled to feel exasperated at the nonsense being spread about her online and to respond tersely to it. That publication got the response they deserved.

Their pr handling has been atrocious. The speculation is entirely prompted by that.

Porkfest · 01/03/2024 09:01

User7825525 · 01/03/2024 08:46

Exactly, the issue is not really about invasion of privacy (of course people will allow her the time and rest required to recover) but the really odd way the PR has been handled. It’s clearly possible at this stage to put out two sentences thanking the public for their well wishes like what Charles did. There is no surgery in the world complex enough that the patient cannot approve two lines of text 8 weeks later. By not doing this they’re adding fuel to the fact that she’s either entirely incapacitated or recovering well but can’t be bothered to update or thank the public.

The recent update is essentially telling people to fuck off. The tone is unusually harsh for an official statement and the sentence grammatically incorrect. No word of thanks or any fluff fillers that you would expect.

I agree that if KP / RF / W&C had been listening to public opinion they could have tagged on a thankyou on that note.

I think it’s fine that they gave a timeline originally and they are sticking to it.

No one needs to share their medical info or recovery progress.

KP / RF / W&C have responded to public pressure by issuing this statement and I think their stance is appropriate to stand firm but a thank you would have potentially swayed sentiment.

Did PW thank the public at BAFTA and Synagogue? Or just say she was doing well?

SurelySmartie · 01/03/2024 09:06

You can sense some slight irritation behind the no-update update. Can’t blame them tbh.

underthebun · 01/03/2024 09:07

W&K are not going to be like the Queen in terms of how she did her role, why do people think that?

Clearly W loathes the press

User7825525 · 01/03/2024 09:12

The crux of the issue that the RF is the ultimate example of a parasocial relationship. Their existence hinges on getting people to like them, and the entire country being part of their personal life events like a birth, wedding or funeral. They‘re basically celebs or influencers before those jobs even existed. In exchange for giving up some privacy, they enjoy access to unparalleled wealth that they do not have to earn themselves.

The current situation shows that the entire institution is sorely out of touch with the digital age, or maybe where the RF fits in entirely in 2024. People are used to constant information, instant communication, fast updates, text, images, video etc. News or quotes go viral on social media within minutes. It‘s fine to say there will be nothing until easter but that timeframe is an eternity in the digital world.

The typical behaviour of anyone going to hospital or recovering from surgery would be to keep their friends and family updated via text. Even it‘s an emoji or just some kind of personal assurance that thing are fine or you appreciate the well wishes. And yes, a parasocial relationship means the public care about members of the RF like something they know personally and and therefore hope for the same structure of communication.

The palace is essentially going back to the middle ages method of posting a sign on the door of a church and then telling everyone to fuck off. They seem entirely ignorant of the fact that life in the UK is essentially collapsing with COL, NHS, schools etc. There are many areas of this whole episode that touch a nerve with bigger issues. Like the fact they have the luxury to take 3 months off and clearly never had to wait 12hrs in an A&E. People may be ok with the taxpayer funded lives of the RF but they expect a token of acknowledgement in return.

ToffeeTalk · 01/03/2024 09:13

Clearly W loathes the press

Well he can loathe the taxpayers at his own peril.

Arrogant shit.

WestLondonmumfromtheNorth · 01/03/2024 09:13

Sleeptastic · 29/02/2024 16:56

@User7825525 The original statement regarding her surgery never stated she would disappear entirely for 4 months. They gave the timeline and a followup piece about her working from home during the recovery period. That was perfectly setting things up for a statement, video call screenshot or maybe even picture of her during the time between her hospital discharge and resuming engagements. This was essentially what people were expecting at this stage. Some kind of statement or photo from her personally.

This is nonsense. I'm looking at their twitter feed they never even hinted that she would be working from home. They said "unlikely to return to royal duties until after Easter". The only follow up about her was that she was back home and thanked the staff at the hospital and well wishers. Nothing else was said. You are making stuff up.

It was definitely reported in the press that she would be working from home, I remember the comments such as 'how can she cut a ribbon from bed?'. Then Charles releases a photo of him reading cards and thanking people. It is only natural to expect that a 'working-from-bed-Kate' would do the same.

The 'working from bed' comment came close after all the eye rolling about how work-shy they both are. I guess some critics thought she might be extending her recovery time to avoid work (especially as it will then run into the school holidays - of which they take 19-20 weeks a year) and people were quite rightly questioning why work-shy-William needed so much time off work, when he has a level of support and staff the rest of us can only dream of. Either he is a lazy so-and-so using his wife's illness as an excuse to slack off or she is seriously unwell and he needs to be close by 24-7 until she is feeling better. If they'd said that she was unwell no one would have batted an eye. Do they honestly think the whole country would go into a Diana-style melt down because Kate is unwell.

The narrative we were first told is that she went in for a minor op. We actually weren't told she was 'going in' we were only told after she had the op and they released all the info about Charles at the same time.

It's obvious that the op wasn't 'planned' (putting something the in planner the day it happens and saying it is planned is playing fast and loose with words). Since they are tax payer funded and treated as the most important family in the country - and like to position themselves as giving stability to people of the UK - I think people are allowed an eye roll and a bit of a mutter under their breath if they are not told the reason they need an extended break. The media blackout is deafening.

Buck House and Ken Palace PR have played a blinder here. BH have overshared which has made KP look shady. It's a PR shitshow. If KP want to quell the rummers on Reddit, that William beat her up over Christmas and she was taken to hospital from Sandringham on the 28th, then they could just be a bit more truthful and stop treating people like idiots. The damage to the Royal Families reputation globally is huge - the prince of pegging is trending again, Andrew is front and centre again and rumours about a certain Marchioness have started up with a vengeance.

underthebun · 01/03/2024 09:16

Arrogant shit.

I think arrogance is pretty standard amongst Royals 😆

ToffeeTalk · 01/03/2024 09:17

underthebun · 01/03/2024 09:16

Arrogant shit.

I think arrogance is pretty standard amongst Royals 😆

Fair.

TokyoSushi · 01/03/2024 09:20

It is a bit odd that there's no statement. Just something like 'The Princess of Wales continues to recover well from her surgery and would like to thank members of the public for their well wishes.' They do usually do things like that, so it's absence seems odd.

Newchapterbeckons · 01/03/2024 09:21

ColleenDonaghy · 01/03/2024 08:56

I think she's very strongly advocating for herself and refusing to give up something so personal to the masses.

The masses? Do you mean the people paying her bills despite the appalling healthcare they are subjected to??

Its fucking outrageous the contempt for the public , and will be their downfall ultimately.

underthebun · 01/03/2024 09:21

The crux of the issue that the RF is the ultimate example of a parasocial relationship. Their existence hinges on getting people to like them, and the entire country being part of their personal life events like a birth, wedding or funeral. They‘re basically celebs or influencers before those jobs even existed. In exchange for giving up some privacy, they enjoy access to unparalleled wealth that they do not have to earn themselves.

Exactly, you said it so much better than me. They cannot exist in their current form without good PR & feeling. I’m not a Royalist & think the idea is nonsense in 2023 but the Queen had my upmost respect because she earned it. W & K are nothing like her imo.

Newchapterbeckons · 01/03/2024 09:22

TokyoSushi · 01/03/2024 09:20

It is a bit odd that there's no statement. Just something like 'The Princess of Wales continues to recover well from her surgery and would like to thank members of the public for their well wishes.' They do usually do things like that, so it's absence seems odd.

They can’t say that because it would mean Kate could pass on her thanks, and clearly she can’t - otherwise it would have already been done.

Even her PR team aren’t going to openly lie in that way.

Dustyblue · 01/03/2024 09:23

I understand why the long timeframe is causing people to muse over what the problem is.

My 1st thought was benign brain tumour, SOLELY b/c that happened to a friend. The recovery time was similar and even the best hairdressers need some regrowth to make your hair look as good as hers always does.

I hope it's not that, but whatever it is they've started a fire now and should at least throw a few buckets of water on it.

Dustyblue · 01/03/2024 09:24

Meant to say- I doubt they'd be upfront about it if it's brain-related. Anything Neuro tends to make people panic. But who knows?

OutwiththeOutCrowd · 01/03/2024 09:24

I think they have decided what the truth should be and are willing actual circumstances to catch up with this.

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