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To want my husband to say something about MIL's comments

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danialan · 28/02/2024 14:16

DH is the youngest child of a very wealthy family, he has an older brother who isn’t as close to their mum as DH is, I suspect I know the reasons (see post below) but have no confirmation.

MIL will constantly make comments to us suggesting that if any decision is made that she disagrees with, it’s a stupid decision and only made by us because we’re young (I’m late 20s, DH mid-30s), inexperienced and probably not as smart as her (no one is!).
Example 1 - we went to Young V&A with our DDs and when MIL called early afternoon as we were on our way back in the car, we told her what we had been up to. MIL’s response was “you kept them indoors for half the day?!”, DH responds that actually the girls loved it, it was super interactive, we’ll send some pics when we get home. She goes “right, um, are you at least planning to take them to the park later today? They need fresh air! How sad for them to be in a stuffy museum”
Example 2 - we were planning to name after my grandma who died during my pregnancy, her name was Arina, and yes I’m from abroad. MIL wouldn’t stop with comments like “at least give it as a middle name… with Wembley as a first name hahaha” (for those from outside UK, Wembley Arena is a massive stadium). And “well she won’t thank you when she’s being bullied” or “and Pitch if he’s a boy, yeah?”
Example 3 - one of my daughters was climbing down from the sofa, she’s done this before successfully many times and I don’t think it’s great parenting to run up to your child any time they’re learning / practicing something and “helping” - they’ll never get the chance to learn or develop muscles! The whole time MIL kept saying “I don’t want to see this” “she’ll fall - do you not care?”
There’s more examples to give if needed but don’t want to make the initial post super long, I know it already will be!

DH doesn’t pressure me to do everything she comments on (although our daughter isn’t called Arina) but I can see that the comments make him upset or uncomfortable, I don’t know which. And in front of her he feels like he has to just do as she says, never stands up to her. For example in the sofa example he will lift her down instead of saying “it’s okay mum, she’s safe, she’s learning, it’s a low sofa and it’s stood on a carpet”, whereas at home he’d let her do it. Suddenly after the museum example he volunteered to take them both to the playground.

On the face of it, MIL loves her son (DH) and just wants what’s best for him, loves our 2 DDs and she wants what’s best for them too. She wants to see them lots and she just also has so much life experience that she can’t wait to share with us, all because, in case it’s not been mentioned, she wants what’s best for us. That’s DH’s interpretation and MIL’s reasoning if questioned about the comments or her overinvolvement.

To avoid a drip feed: she does financially help in the sense that she gifted DH a house in which we currently live and often gives nice “gifts” like a car, baby equipment, nice baby clothes etc and invites us on luxurious holidays (which I actually hate because it’s 24/7 comments on every decision we make and how it’s wrong). However the financial support allows me not to work and be a SAHM which I’m of course grateful for and perhaps should keep my mouth shut?

OP posts:
Blue0987 · 29/02/2024 07:41

She sounds nasty but I am of the opinion that you can’t change nasty people.
You can change yourself.
First of all, get a job. You are in your 20s and you are a SAHM?!? That’s a waste and in fact I think it is affecting you. If you had other things to worry about, you would be ignoring your MIL.
also, have a chat with your husband and tell him to speak with her at least about children’s education and stop going on holiday itv her.
I mean, there are so many things you can do!

Mumofferralkid3 · 29/02/2024 07:56

I couldn't face this. Seems you're being treated like a nanny. Why go on holiday with a single person who won't be flexible or accommodate family life?!? I wouldn't care how posh the holiday was. My in laws always spend time with the kids on holidays as that's kinda the point of going together.

Fingeronthebutton · 29/02/2024 08:16

He who pays the piper calls the tune.
not that the op would understand that.

Richard1985 · 29/02/2024 08:17

danialan · 28/02/2024 22:00

@Codlingmoths yeah sort of. He will leave most of his stuff in the kids' part but will go over to his mum's "to help her out" ie bring towels etc, and that leads into a 1-2hr conversation. Then he will be back for a short while, usually just enough for a quick swim with the kids and checking some emails, then his mum wants a cocktail and needs his company because surely she can't drink alone so back he goes for another few hours. By that point we've had lunch with the kids because they got hungry and he was busy "helping" mum with something or just mid conversation, so he has to join his mum for lunch etc. If I ask about it he just says that he can't leave her without company, and im not eating lunch alone as ive got the children (toddlers)

Don’t know why you even go on these holidays - that is one thing that you could easily put your foot down on.

Holidays with kids are often worse than being at home, especially if there’s no second parent to take some of the load so either he goes alone with his mum so they can relax together or he takes the children with him and you get some peaceful time at home

starfishmummy · 29/02/2024 08:17

Why must yihr dh tell her? You and she are now part of the same extended family, why can't you grow a spine and say something to her?

Scarletttulips · 29/02/2024 08:25

I would ask politely if there’s anything you do right?
I would also ask your husband to swap places on holiday and see if he enjoys it? Or not go and let him deal with the kids for a week!

Get clever and stop being a victim of your own life.

Yoir DH needs to change or you walk - that simple. He needs retraining.

lilmadmel · 29/02/2024 08:33

danialan · 28/02/2024 22:00

@Codlingmoths yeah sort of. He will leave most of his stuff in the kids' part but will go over to his mum's "to help her out" ie bring towels etc, and that leads into a 1-2hr conversation. Then he will be back for a short while, usually just enough for a quick swim with the kids and checking some emails, then his mum wants a cocktail and needs his company because surely she can't drink alone so back he goes for another few hours. By that point we've had lunch with the kids because they got hungry and he was busy "helping" mum with something or just mid conversation, so he has to join his mum for lunch etc. If I ask about it he just says that he can't leave her without company, and im not eating lunch alone as ive got the children (toddlers)

So you go on holiday as the nanny?

You could just not go? Let him take the kids 🤷🏻‍♀️

If your husband is unwilling to stand up to his mum then this, I’m afraid, is your life. He obviously values his mums opinion more than yours.

Allfur · 29/02/2024 08:34

Lean into the situation, as in take what you need from it, take advantage if it and take everything she says with a pinch of salt in a lighthearted way. She's just an irritantant you have to put up with every now and then. Take back your power.

Allfur · 29/02/2024 08:38

Also, on holiday, book some treatments for yourself and leave him and her to look after the kids for the equivalent time he fucks off to her

Hereforaglance · 29/02/2024 08:50

So living of the bank of partner and mum in law and yet you still not happy maybe mum in law n partner should stop being so generous and let u stand on ur own to feet for a while few days in the real world

Stacksnacks · 29/02/2024 08:54

Hatty65 · 28/02/2024 14:24

You can't really have your cake and eat it. As long as you allow her to pay for a house, a car, baby stuff, holidays - and financially allow you to be a SAHM then you've trapped yourself into the role of 'dependent and not grown up enough to support themselves'.

Make your choice. Either carry on like proper grown ups and pay your own way without support from Mummy, in which case I'd feel free to say, 'Yeah - mind your own business, Janet. We're raising children our way'.

Or keep putting your hand out for support, in which case expect to suck it up as the poor relation and tolerate her bossy comments.

Absolutely this! Unfortunately as long as you’re taking her money she’ll be a pain in your arse.

Calliopespa · 29/02/2024 08:55

Allfur · 29/02/2024 08:34

Lean into the situation, as in take what you need from it, take advantage if it and take everything she says with a pinch of salt in a lighthearted way. She's just an irritantant you have to put up with every now and then. Take back your power.

Ie; use her and milk her, but disrespect her.

Nice.

No wonder family units are disintegrating within society.

ZetuianRose · 29/02/2024 08:59

danialan · 28/02/2024 14:29

To everything saying "don't accept anything from her". My husband does and will 100% continue to. There's no way I can get him to stop.
But I don't want to have the comments.

Why would you even want to be with a man baby that takes such huge handouts from his parents?

If he’s not grown up enough to stand on his own two feet and support his wife and daughters with these MIL issues then he’s not a very good husband is he? Putting his flash new car and free house above his family’s happiness?

Malarandras · 29/02/2024 09:03

Thing is OP you do benefit hugely from her financial gifts. Because she is so generous she feels entitled to comment and that doesn’t seem likely to change. If you want the comments to stop you need to stand on your own two feet I’m afraid.

hangingonfordearlife1 · 29/02/2024 09:14

The house has been gifted and in your husbands name....she cant take it back. Get rid of your pre-nup first and foremost. Then tell her to bugger off.

Calliopespa · 29/02/2024 09:15

Allfur · 29/02/2024 08:38

Also, on holiday, book some treatments for yourself and leave him and her to look after the kids for the equivalent time he fucks off to her

If I was MIL paying for the trip ( on top of everything else) this would piss me off if I then got left babysitting while Madam went for spa treatments.

Yes, DH should absolutely pull his weight with the childcare but this suggestion is just so obnoxious and entitled and dripping with the attitude that makes older generations see modern ones as frankly a histrionic, self-centred pain in the arse.

Calliopespa · 29/02/2024 09:17

Calliopespa · 29/02/2024 09:15

If I was MIL paying for the trip ( on top of everything else) this would piss me off if I then got left babysitting while Madam went for spa treatments.

Yes, DH should absolutely pull his weight with the childcare but this suggestion is just so obnoxious and entitled and dripping with the attitude that makes older generations see modern ones as frankly a histrionic, self-centred pain in the arse.

… why not just be straightforward and ask to please be included in the adult time rather than flouncing off for a deluge of spa treatments?

frami · 29/02/2024 09:27

I once made the mistake of taking money from my parents (DF had a life limiting illness and want to give some money while he was still compis mentis). Taking it was the greatest mistake I ever made once DF became too ill to intervene DM used it as a stick to beat me. I put up with it for DF's sake but since his death have distanced myself from DM and refused any more gifts. I suggest you do the same. Life will be better for it.

Itsallok · 29/02/2024 09:30

Obviously MIL can see that you are a leach. And she likes the power over the little boy who will never be successful enough to afford what she can give him. Given that you have only got a flat due to inheritance....

betterangels · 29/02/2024 09:38

danialan · 28/02/2024 14:26

@Hatty65 if I got a job the comments would continue (because they still happened when I had a job). No way would DH stop accepting the gifts, I know that for a fact

So you knew this and still chose this life? People do things because there's a payoff for them. Yours seems to be a house and staying at home.

queenMab99 · 29/02/2024 09:40

You haven't signed a contract to say she pays and you accept her criticism. You can deal with her criticism in whatever way you want, if she stops paying, that's up to her. This may cause problems with your husband, but then your argument is with him surely!

cujo · 29/02/2024 09:42

danialan · 28/02/2024 22:00

@Codlingmoths yeah sort of. He will leave most of his stuff in the kids' part but will go over to his mum's "to help her out" ie bring towels etc, and that leads into a 1-2hr conversation. Then he will be back for a short while, usually just enough for a quick swim with the kids and checking some emails, then his mum wants a cocktail and needs his company because surely she can't drink alone so back he goes for another few hours. By that point we've had lunch with the kids because they got hungry and he was busy "helping" mum with something or just mid conversation, so he has to join his mum for lunch etc. If I ask about it he just says that he can't leave her without company, and im not eating lunch alone as ive got the children (toddlers)

how are you more upset by her comments rather than your husbands behaviour?

Sharptonguedwoman · 29/02/2024 09:45

MrsTerryPratchett · 28/02/2024 14:23

the financial support allows me not to work and be a SAHM

Who pays the piper calls the tune. Your MIL and DH know she's paying to do this. Your choices are to be independent or not. I'd choose independence. But that means you get a job.

Your MIL sounds really annoying. A few thoughts: If your children are over 8 ish, get a job and some financial independence. Your MIL has the purse strings so she has the power.

Stop accepting the phone calls, just let them go to voicemail. Ring back in the evening when you have time.
Take your own children on holiday to your chosen location.

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 29/02/2024 09:48

You can't have your cake and eat it too OP.
The only way this would work is if you have or develop a thick skin.

When she says do you not care, you say, you're right about falls being dangerous but I also care about her developing her muscles and a fall is part of growing up, its about balance.
She'll soon tire.

That and ignoring most comments.

There are ways of putting people in their place without being confrontational or aggressive.

WaftherAngelsthroughtheskies · 29/02/2024 09:55

Shetlands · 28/02/2024 14:33

If you don't want the comments and your husband won't say anything then you'll have to. Tell her you know she means well but you find her constant criticisms emotionally exhausting and they're wearing down your self esteem. Tell her you'd find it easier to accept her 'advice' if she also made positive comments about your mothering but it's too skewed towards the negative.

You have nothing to lose because you don't want or need her gifts so she can't bribe you even if that works with your DH.

Good advice. You are not obligated by MIL gifts to put up with behaviours that make you unhappy. But if your DH won't call it out that doesn't preclude your doing so, just be measured and constructive. You might get an emotional overreaction but so long as you stand your ground and stay calm and reasonable (this bit is essential) it will blow over and she might even have more respect for you.