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To have left this date.

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Needtonamechange9 · 24/02/2024 23:00

So I'm pretty certain I'm in the right.

I've been talking to this guy on the Bumble app for almost 2 months. Finally pinned down a date we could both meet (tonight).

I spent time getting ready and uberring 30 mins to see him and this is what happens. I'm the grey one.

I'm still in shock and on way home. If you read the rest of the messages from before today this guy seemed SO NORMAL!!!! Has a good job, kids.... WTF!!!!

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OP posts:
taylorswift1989 · 25/02/2024 00:50

Who knows wtf was going on there. I would have waited 15 mins and left without any messages sent. If he was a decent guy who wanted to date you, you would not be sitting alone in a bar asking him where he was. Always drop guys the first time they show you disrespect. Don't bother getting into big discussions about it.

Luckyducky123 · 25/02/2024 00:52

@Growlybear83 Mad accusations that he didn’t really deny. If he was so taken aback by the accusations, surely he would have said ‘WTF are you on about’.

Bournetilly · 25/02/2024 00:53

Lucky escape on his behalf! You were extremely OTT and ow him an apology.

Garlickit · 25/02/2024 00:54

I'm astonished he said he still wanted to meet you Confused

Yes, the date was a bust and he handled it badly. You're entitled to decide not to bother any more. But how you got from "upset female friend wants to talk" to "threesome" and then kept going on about it is beyond weird. Whether this friend exists or not is a side issue compared to your bizarre & persistent assumption.

Maybe do a bit less mind-reading when you next have a date?

Mumoftwo1312 · 25/02/2024 00:54

My money is that there was no female friend there.

Well done for staying safe, op.

EmmaEmerald · 25/02/2024 00:57

I'm amazed at the vote and the responses

I know the bar is on the floor here a lot of the time but....what?!

Are posters that naive? I say this as someone who has only dated IRL, not used OLD.

If you are going on a date with someone you've never even met, you need to be even more careful IMHO.

OP your gut screamed to run away and you did the right thing to listen to it.

Shamalar · 25/02/2024 00:58

Woah! Agree with others he had a lucky escape. Those messages from you were mental!

Yes he cocked up by having a last minute change of plans but rather than cancelling on you because he had a friend in need, he tried to make it a nice evening for all of you. And you just sounded so unbelievably unreasonable that I’m surprised he even turned up in the end.

Isittimeformynapyet · 25/02/2024 00:59

Mazuslongtoenail · 24/02/2024 23:25

I’m staggered by the responses that think OP is BU.

I’m fascinating to know what those people would have done in the same situation. Gone round? Waited another hour?

I can help you here:

I'd have replied "I won't come over thanks. You spend time with your friend and I'll stick to OLD safety guidelines. Maybe we can rearrange something."

And that would be it.

Then I would carefully evaluate the evening's events in my own time, probably talk to friends about it and possibly try a second date in a coffee shop near me at a sensible time of day.

I definitely wouldn't have engaged in that ridiculous text exchange for an hour.

Garlickit · 25/02/2024 00:59

Yeah, I agree with that @EmmaEmerald. But all the YOU THINK I'M COMING OVER THERE FOR A THREESOME (and the rest) is just bonkers.

The obvious thing to do was reply "That's inconvenient. Have a nice evening, I'm off home."

AutumnCrow · 25/02/2024 01:01

Well done, OP. You were spot on to get out of there and go home.

EmmaEmerald · 25/02/2024 01:03

@Garlickit why is it bonkers?

it might not be the most likely scenario but it's a possible.

Sletty · 25/02/2024 01:04

@EmmaEmerald I’m disgusted with the responses from other women. Slating and name calling the OP, and total naivety regarding the poor sweet man. What the actual fuck.

OP did fantastic calling him out for being a prick, calling him out straight away on his suggestive comments and for recognising the red flags and leaving and keeping herself safe.

I can see a mile off what this guy was trying to do. Very worrying that others not only can’t see it but are giving this creepy predator sympathy and name calling the OP. So worrying

Rocknrolla21 · 25/02/2024 01:05

LorlieS · 25/02/2024 00:06

@Needtonamechange9 Were you expecting/looking to have sex? Because to my mind meeting as late as 10pm suggests to me that's what he was looking for.

Did you miss the memo where non consensual sex is now frowned upon? If it was going to be a banging session in his house, then the op would have met him at his house. Not paid for an hour in taxis and spent another hour at the pub waiting for him, while he either legitimately had another woman at his house for the banging session, or he was trying to lure the op in by making her think she’s safe as there’s apparently another woman there. I’m getting vibes from this like when I stayed in sharm el sheik for a while. And men used to rent very cheap cabin boats and approach women on the beach and ask them to come to their boat with their female friends/relatives. I got approached by a man who tried to get me on a boat with his sister. It was clearly fucking empty

PaulAnkaTheDoggo · 25/02/2024 01:05

Honestly? I’m absolutely cringing for you. You sound like a bit of a fruit loop. But! He sounds like a total wet, for going along with the absolutely crazy messages from you and not just going ‘fuck she’s a bit mental’. So equally both to blame on being bat shit mental. Rein it in though is my thought.

Babla · 25/02/2024 01:06

I can see a mile off what this guy was trying to do. Very worrying that others not only can’t see it but are giving this creepy predator sympathy and name calling the OP. So worrying

But you don't actually know what he was trying to do no more than you know he's a creepy predator

IMakeCrapCakes · 25/02/2024 01:09

MassageForLife · 24/02/2024 23:14

Yanbu to be annoyed at him being late. Yanbu to want your first date to be just you and him.

Yabvu for pretty much everything else. You were like a dog with a bone. Despite him explaining what he meant, you wouldn't let it go. I'm really surprised he still turned up to be honest.

Exactly this. What got me is he was articulate and explained what had happened well, and it would endear me to a man whose female friend has been in need and he'd wanted to offer comfort to. That's a nice person.

However you were not being unreasonable to be annoyed at him being late or prefer to have the night you expected.
I'm a night owl myself so a date at 2130 for a few drinks would suit me fine. Not sure why some posters are clutching their pearls over that.

Sletty · 25/02/2024 01:11

Babla · 25/02/2024 01:06

I can see a mile off what this guy was trying to do. Very worrying that others not only can’t see it but are giving this creepy predator sympathy and name calling the OP. So worrying

But you don't actually know what he was trying to do no more than you know he's a creepy predator

He tried to get OPs address
He tried to get her to go his for first date despite them agreeing to meet in a public place
He stood her up for over an hour
He made suggestive comments that she could go to his and have a good night with him and his friend (having never even met each other before)

He is not a person to be trusted and the OP did right to put her safety first

AprilDecember · 25/02/2024 01:12

It's worrying how many people think the female friend yarn is real and/or sweet.

EmmaEmerald · 25/02/2024 01:16

@IMakeCrapCakes "What got me is he was articulate and explained what had happened well, and it would endear me to a man whose female friend has been in need and he'd wanted to offer comfort to. That's a nice person."

On what planet is it a nice person who leaves someone waiting alone in a bar?

I'm all for supporting your friends when they are in need but this wasn't described as an emergency. He could have met his upset friend after the date if she needed him that much.

But also - that was a line! it's very unlikely it was the truth. And you saying it was articulate is making me think the bar is even lower. Ooh, someone can string a sentence together, how amazing.

Posters who can't see the issue here.....have you had zero experience of dodgy men? I realise these lucky women exist but you must know other women who have had bad experiences?

Groomofthestool · 25/02/2024 01:17

NotStylishOrBeautiful · 24/02/2024 23:12

He was flaky, but you were… WEIRD.

This

Mumoftwo1312 · 25/02/2024 01:17

What got me is he was articulate and explained what had happened well, and it would endear me to a man whose female friend has been in need and he'd wanted to offer comfort to. That's a nice person.

That's exactly what he wanted op to think!

But what was he actually asking her to do? Go to his house, a stranger's, at 10pm.

Btw would you be interested in some magic beans?

FallingStar21 · 25/02/2024 01:19

Over40Overdating · 24/02/2024 23:30

Whether OP was right about the threesome or overreacted, her instinct that this guy was off was right.

No 48 year old man is going to leave a woman he’s going to meet for the first time, who might turn into a good shagging prospect, hanging because a platonic friend with boyfriend troubles has showed up to cry on his shoulder unless he thinks he’s getting his leg over. He certainly wouldn’t be inviting his first date to come hang out with another stranger to ‘chill’ unless he’s playing games.

The people claiming he’s a nice guy who has lad a lucky escape from OP are either seriously naive or as dodgy as this guy.

This with bells on!

mewkins · 25/02/2024 01:20

He sounds like a creep. You're 5 mins from his so he wants you to go there rather than meet in a bar? Hmmmm. Also he wasn't particularly outraged when you asked if it was a threesome which makes me think.... he (and his girlfriend) have set this up. Even the 'you're the one I want to be with' is odd. You were right to leave. He probably used fake photos too.

Gloriosaford · 25/02/2024 01:21

The bloke's behaviour was odd, imo.

Brazenhussy0 · 25/02/2024 01:23

Wholettherabbitsout · 24/02/2024 23:57

People who reckon this man was possibly genuine are missing a big fucking alarm bell.

If a good friend turned up crying on your sofa because of boyfriend trouble, the last thing you would do is invite a girl you’ve not even met yet back to witness/participate in those conversations. A good friend to someone in genuine need would cancel the date. A good friend to someone doing alright but needing some time out from home drama might leave the sad friend at home in their flat and go out on the date, probably never ever telling the date about it.

The truth will either be the sad friend was faked to trick OP into going back to his or OPs threesome bullshit radar was right on the money.

This^ post was several pages back and bang on imo.

I haven't posted on MN in years but the sheer stupidity and/or naivety in these replies has got my piss boiling. OP, you are not insane and you were not overreacting. Your gut instinct did exactly what it needed to do to keep you safe - never second guess that instinct.

If he did have another woman at his home with him, then yes, chances are he was hoping to turn in into a threesome and it was probably a woman he's sexually involved with.
However, what's also possible (and perhaps more likely) is that he was planning to harm you in some way and was using the "female friend" story to lull you into a false sense of security, so that you would go meet him at his house rather than in the safety of a public place. As someone else up-thread pointed out, he also tried to obtain your address by offering to get you an Uber.

Regardless, it's deeply alarming to see how many posters here think he was the one who had a lucky escape... there are a lot of very predatory men out there in the wild, and if your gut tells you something is off, listen to it. Do not listen to random posters on MN whose heads apparently button up the back 🙄

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