To be angry that Scarlet Blake is being called a woman.

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Scarlet Blake has been found guilty of murder. He also tortured and killed a cat.

He is not a woman.

This shouldn't be reported as a woman's crime.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-68360122

Are they? You know this how? Self-id is not law in the UK.

There are nearly 3300 genders so I don’t think they could do that.

I see there's a few of the "be kind" brigade in the voting. They're part of the group that helped this shit show get to where it is.

Just use she even if they're a man, it's kind and it costs you nothing.
Of course they're a woman, you wouldn't be referring to them as she if they weren't.
Of course they're female, everyone refers to them as a woman and uses she when talking about them.
Of course you can't exclude them from female spaces, services, prisons and sports, they're female.

Being kind doesn't "cost us nothing."
It's cost us everything.

It would be interesting to have crimes recorded as male, female and then additionally where relevant as whether the person committing them was transgender, the statistics would be fascinating.

It's got to the point where I read news stories about "women" with an ever-increasing scepticism. Sometimes it's "women" who are under arrest for very male crimes, like murdering a stranger (as here), or rape, or indecent exposure. Sometimes it's record-breaking women in sports - I end up looking very carefully at the pictures and the reporting, to see whether a woman has actually broken the woman's record, or whether it's yet another man.

Bloody liars.

@noctilucentcloud , in what way is this cat torturing murder worthy of respect? He hasn’t earned and does not deserve either respect or kindness.

I can see that argument, but we refer to anyone who has committed even the most hideous crime by he/she rather than for example it. If the press and judge refer to a transgender person by their chosen pronouns then that doesn't revert because of them being found guilty. (A transgendered witness or victim would also be referred to by their chosen pronouns)

Absofuckinglutely 👏transwomen are male. Born male and will always be male.

I'm not arguing he should be named as a 'he' because I think it's respectful to call him 'she' and he's a criminal. The 'manners' argument is really irrelevant.

Criminals, even those guilty of the most horrifying crimes, have rights and are entitled to fair treatment.

My argument is about logic, truth, trust, accuracy, data and public interest. It is crucial that men are named as men.

What a load of bollocks.

No one should be compelled to use incorrect sex pronouns for anyone.

Or are you one of those who thinks that a rape victim should be compelled to call her rapist she in court?

Sex matters, is my point. No man 'earns the right' to use female pronouns if he's nice or polite or kind or respectful. This is being framed as an etiquette/moral/manners/emotive issue and it's more than that. It's about our ability to communicate information effectively, record useful data, risk assess, plan, assess, and understand each other.

Every time someone tries to obfuscate someone else's sex, it has an impact.

We all need to care because crime stats matter.

https://fairplayforwomen.com/pronouns/ This started life on here.

He is a he, not a they he is a man - lucky you if you can't see why it matters.

Totally agree that it's misleading reporting. They do, however, mention this person coming out as trans and the partner being a trans woman, so I'm not sure how far a complaint would get. The Guardian, OTOH, don't mention the word trans at all... I imagine we'd be wasting our time complaining there though 🤦🏼‍♀️

I had not heard about this case before today. I read the reporting in the guardian and came away with the thought 'gosh this is an unusual crime for a woman to commit'. Thanks for this clarification. Not a woman
Now it makes sense.

Next level insanity at the Guardian not even fucking mentioning the trans status. Absolutely and totally batshit. Glassy-eyed drones, walking into the Guardian offices must be like stepping into the start of a zombie movie.

That was in the updated BBC report; the first one had no mention of anything other than calling Blake a 'woman'.

It is definitely, definitely not ok.

#NotOurCrimes is now trending on X.

I have complained to the BBC. Suspect it is wasted effort but hey.

For me the correct pronouns are what an individual prefers, be it he/she/they. Turning it round on you - do you think a transgendered witness or victim shouldn't have their preferred pronouns used? A recent very sad example being Brianna Ghey.

I don't think victims should be compelled to use any particular terms, giving evidence is traumatic enough. But that is a very different argument to the use of preferred pronouns by the press.

I've been following this story and I'm shocked it's the first i know that in fact she is a he thank god he's in a man's prison

I don't think victims should be compelled to use any particular terms, giving evidence is traumatic enough. But that is a very different argument to the use of preferred pronouns by the press.

Why? Why should the press lie about this?

What about the victim's family who have to read lies in the press coverage? They know he wasn't murdered by a woman FFS. It was a man. A violent man.

I also think it is unreasonable and disrespectful of you to use a child's murder to argue that the press should report the incorrect pronouns of violent men.

Scarlet Blake claimed to be a cat at some points.

Should the press refer to him as a cat?