To feel sorry for Shamima Begum?

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I do, I’m afraid. I think she should be able to come home. She was 15! Have any men been stripped of their citizenship that we know about?

Being groomed as a child into joining a group is very different to joining of your own adult free will.

Note one jot. The only reason she should be allowed back is to stand trial for treason.

It's not binary. It is perfectly possible to have compassion for someone whilst being horrified by their actions.

I don’t feel sorry for her but this is simply dumping our rubbish in someone else’s backyard. The US has made this point vociferously - that the U.K. should take responsibility for our homegrown terrorists rather than making them someone else’s problem. She should be in Belmarsh.

Maybe it was propaganda , but didn't she ( once married ) help to groom young girls into leaving their home countries to join and marry Isis members. And didn't she also help sew people into suicide bomber jackets ?

Do you know anyone of that demographic who has done what she did and been allowed back to the UK?
Would you have gone there and joined a terrorist group ISIS?
Would you have taken part in the murderous things they did?
No you wouldn't, so this is a moot point.

Yup all of this but we must not discuss the hypocrisy of the UK 🙄

YANBU OP. She is a British citizen. I'm not sure how you can deny that. All the way through the British education system and a vulnerable 15 YO when she left.

I maybe would have agreed and said I felt sorry for her and put it down to her being a victim of grooming had she not said that she didn’t feel anything when she saw someone’s head in a bin! To not feel anything at all and have absolutely no remorse for her actions would tell me she is a psychopath and maybe had a love for violence and torture. So no, I have no sympathy

Fully agree - she was 15 FFS - a child. Groomed, exploited!! Once there she could not have escaped and as for showing no remorse how can she when she is out in the middle east possibly surrounded by ISIS sympathisers.

she should be brought back along with any other british women and children who are still out there.

I can’t motivate myself to fell sorry for her no. Don’t feel any particular hatred for her either.

So if she is as lovely and innocent as her sympathisers say, why did she join isis, and celebrate and praise them and their actions?

I think she’s a terrorist and if she’s allowed back she should face the justice system and be locked up. Nobody is suggesting that if she’s allowed back we will just let her roam free and go clubbing

But taking away her citizenship? That is an unfair punishment. If she was white she’ll be able to come back (and sit in jail), rather than being rendered stateless purely because her parents (not her) are Bangladeshi

Nope. Not in the slightest.

Exactly this. If her parents were British born, the outcome would have been very different.

Erm no! At 15 you know right from wrong!

I have no sympathy for her. She was groomed and likely indoctrinated and highly likely that she would rush back to an ISIS state if there was one. I believe that she committed atrocities and continues to be dangerous.

However, she's British born, she was groomed and indoctrinated in Britain and had British citizenship until the British government pulled a fast one so she's Britain's problem. It's arrogance to assume she is another country's problem to deal with. She's British. Terrorist or not, she's all yours.

@phishy - support of a terrorist organization is a crime.

Being trafficked, raped and the target of violence is not a crime.

Begin mum became a criminal once she declared her support and acted on it to join a terrorist organization. It is her actions, not her skin colour that determines her fate.

It is you who are a racialist.

It's astonishing how many people are happy to forgive a terrorist just because she is a pretty young girl/woman.

She's a 24 year old adult now. She isn't 15. We aren't telling a child that they can't have British citizenship. We are telling a 24yo terrorist that she can't come here. Which is logical.

Bangladesh have indicated that if she were to go there, then she would face the death penalty. Which is logical as well.

I would feel more sorry for her had she not hounded and punished women for lapses in Sharia law with such vigour use

And she was a smart 15yo with a nice family - mum, dad, older siblings. She was not in foster care or vulnerable.

Do you extend that logic to the girls who were groomed into sex gangs in Rotherham?

They should have known better, right?

I think she should be allowed home but should face prosecution for any crime she’s committed though I’ve yet to be convinced she has committed any. Leaving home and marrying a bad man is not a crime. She was young and stupid. But if she is guilty of an offence she should serve any sentence just the same as anyone else

Also it's the law. The UK can revoke citizenship on the grounds of national security. If you live here and you are a dual national, it is an effect test of loyalty to the UK. Citizenship is legally not a right here. Some of you are posting as if it is.

Our justice system would probably take years, not find enough evidence, she'd be back on the streets.