To feel sorry for Shamima Begum?

[EWAS]

I do, I’m afraid. I think she should be able to come home. She was 15! Have any men been stripped of their citizenship that we know about?

She is thick and was groomed. Of course she wasn't going to refuse to do whatever the lunatic ISIS members asked her to do, she'd have been shot. They wouldn't have patted her on the back and sent her back to Blighty when it got too violent for her.
I expect she is severely disturbed and disassociated from what she has been through. I don't think she could ever be free in the UK, but she is our problem to bring back. It's a proper mess.

The point is she was a child who groomed into sexual exploitation, just like all victims of grooming.

But the colour of her skin and religion prevents you from seeing that.

I don’t think she’s thick at all. I think she’s highly intelligent and highly manipulative. It’s a very dangerous combination.

So she has to pay the price for a shitty justice system?

What about the American woman who ran over and killed a British teen?

Where is the outrage for justice there?

Of course they wouldn’t. This would be a completely different story if that was the case. She’s been groomed and people would have a hell of a lot more sympathy if she wasn’t a brown Muslim girl (at the time when she ran away)

Highly intelligent girls are not groomed into going to war torn Syria to be a sex slave.

I couldn't agree more.

What makes the UK think it can wash its hands off its own citizens?

I'd forgotten she had said that!

I find your obsession with these girls and how they are guilty and as bad a terrorist quite chilling. Why so against them? Do you think they deserved to be raped and beaten? With your approval of SB I'm starting to think you do.

@EWAS I think @LankyCranky32 has a very good point. And what about all these men who have been off fighting for the IDF in Gaza although they’re British citizens? They can go off and take part in the killing of thousands of civilians and then come back and carry on life here without any consequences? She was a young girl when she left, doubtless brainwashed as much as these people who think genocide is a solution.

Sadly there isn't a person on this planet who hasn't made a stupid decision -some mistakes are easily corrected but then a lot are not - and you have to live with those stupid decisions.
PREVENT was started in 2006 albeit probably under another name and Shamima left the UK in 2015 but her parents were not parenting her if she was able to watch videos online (however revolting they were) and then sneak off without supervision under the impression that she was doing a brave and clever thing and that she would be rewarded for this. She was bright enough to work out how to join the ISIS and get there so now she is astute enough now to accept that she made a stupid decision and must now live with the consequences.
I see so many people make decisions that I would never live by but life is hard and you reap what you sow. I've made enough daft decisions myself but I would always accept responsibility for my decisions and actions. No sympathy for this girl at all.

@phishy / legally one does not offset the other. It is you who think that her skin colour makes a difference. But it is her actions that the law looks at and the risk she presents.

Surely it's your obsession with refusing to acknowledge that Shamima was also a child that's chilling?

She wasn’t groomed to be a sex slave. She was radicalised. She did atrocious things that we know about and doubtless far more that only the security services are privy to.

She sounds more like an idiot bully who enjoys wielding power. The Wikipedia entry on her makes for interesting reading. I'm glad she hasn't just got away with it and I hope she rots away the rest of her life, having ruined so many others.

Not an opinion, more a question. If she was allowed back in the UK would she ever be allowed of out of prison or would she need strict monitoring forever if she was able to live in the community?

How dare you insinuate i am racist. I am NOT.

In as much as Israel is a lawful government and not a terrorist organization there is massive legal difference to these actions. Why are you so confused?

But she was groomed to be a sex slave. She was groomed into believing it was her duty to be a wife and to have sex.

Disturbing that you can't see that.

I agree op. I think she was totally demonised and like you say she was a child. I don’t think she should have been held as accountable as she was.

But what Israel is doing is not legal, so your point does not stand.

She wasn’t. She was radicalised. Shame the bleeding hearts can’t see that.

The IDF is not a terrorist organisation

@mydamnfootstuckinthedoor Where is your empathy for the vulnerable people who would be threatened by her return to the UK? I have listened to the podcast and her interviews and not once has she expressed any regret for her support of ISIS. She describes seeing bins with decapitated heads but expresses no horror. People on the Autistic spectrum can be dangerous terrorists and there has not been any evidence that she is on the spectrum, anyway.
She sought out information about ISIS at a time when the rest of the world was reeling in horror at the reports (and videos) of the atrocities. She is intelligent and was expected to go to University.
I think the “compassion” expressed on this thread should be directed to the women and girls who were kidnapped and raped by ISIS followers and not a misguided girl who volunteered to join them. Who can guarantee she won’t commit acts of terrorism here when she hasn’t even vowed to have changed her mind?