To feel sorry for Shamima Begum?

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I do, I’m afraid. I think she should be able to come home. She was 15! Have any men been stripped of their citizenship that we know about?

We can't even if we wanted too

She's in a heavily guarded prison camp and they won't just release her

Yes, but it's nowhere near as clear cut as most people here are making out.

I don’t want adults like that in this country

bad news, there are already adults like this in this country. They may have triggered some sort of surveillance but for the most part we have no idea what they’re up to.

Shamima would find it practically impossible to be a resident in the UK and not have every move surveilled. Most likely in prison but where ever she ended up living out her days.

Indeed!

You still haven’t understood. She had dual citizenship until she lost UK citizenship.

After that she was a citizen of Bangladesh. From then on it was their business whether to make her stateless or not.

If I thought she'd changed her mind, then maybe I'd be sorry for her. But on her return to Britain she said she thought the Manchester bombers were justified. So, no.

She’s got what she deserves.

I don't feel at all sorry for her. But the UK should still bring her home and put her on trial. Then she can rot in jail if she's found guilty, which she likely would be.

I think it's a very dangerous precedent to set when someone who was born in the UK loses their nationality on the say-so of the Home Secretary, on the basis that they are not stateless because they are entitled to a different passport. (As far as I know it's not even clear that SB can in fact get Bangladeshi citizenship.)

There are about six million people born in Great Britain (the UK mainland) who either also have Irish nationality or are entitled to it, and on this basis, any of them could be made un-British tomorrow by the stroke of the pen of the Home Secretary. (Although I would laugh like a drain for at least a few seconds if a future Labour HS did it to Steven Yaxley-Lennon, who apparently has recent enough Irish heritage to qualify.)

You might at least aquaint yourself with the facts before posting this sort of stuff, phishy - the following from Hansard, dated 18 March 2019:

"The Home Secretary recently stated that as many as 900 people who have been deemed to be a concern to our national security have travelled to Syria and Iraq to join terrorist organisations. About 20% of those 900 have been killed on the battlefield, 40% remain in the region and 40% have returned to the UK. That means that about 360 people who are deemed to be a security concern have travelled to Iraq and Syria and since returned. Of those 900 people, more than 100 have been deprived of their British citizenship"

Bullshit. The UK has responsibilities under international law to avoid leaving people stateless.

As Bangladesh were clear that she would face the death penalty there, the UK made Shamima illegally stateless.

Meant same cultural country background - I'm a second gen immigrant too. We don't see ourselves as "from the UK" because our heritage is more expansive than that.

"worthy" isn't it - but I'm not going to waste my time explaining. There's too much ignorance in this thread already.

And how many of those who left were women?

No, but you don't have to become the equivalent of Head Girl/top prefect in enforcing their bullshit and butchery.

No sympathy I’m afraid. They could bring her back so long as she’s locked up forever.

Your assertion that she’s from Bangladesh when she was born in Britain was certainly ignorant, I agree.

I don’t feel sorry for her. She has been stupid enough to make very disturbing comments since then. I think she is a psycho who will always be a danger to this country.

Ah, the moving the goalpists gambit - get it wrong and move onto a different question to deflect

How very predictable ...

Edited to add I really couldn't care less what sex the terrorist supporter is, only whether they present a threat to the vast majority of law abiding people

Even if she had won she would not be back on British soil anything soon

The U.K. has only repatriated 2 other adults in the last 4 years from that area.

It's not quick and not easy

There are other British families in there with her

Why should she take precedence over kids?

Of course she was British. That’s why her citizenship could be stripped at all.

And her UK citizenship could only be revoked because she was also a citizen of another country.

I also feel sorry for her and believe that she deserves a second chance.

I’m fascinated by the suggestion she should be returned to the UK and tried. How could she be tried for war crimes committed in Syria? Where would the evidence and witnesses come from? If she had a trial at all she should be tried by the Syrian judiciary. I wonder how that would go?

Well, you're wrong. She deserves no second chance. I am astonished that this is even a question.

Second chance at what?

Sewing people into suicide vests?

She is unlikely to ever waltz back into Britain and get a ‘second chance’. She would be returning to face consequences.

I think she's in real danger of some vigilante attacking her if she comes back.