To feel sorry for Shamima Begum?

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I do, I’m afraid. I think she should be able to come home. She was 15! Have any men been stripped of their citizenship that we know about?

SB is now an adult. She was a child when she left the UK. Was she groomed to look upon the UK as an enemy of ISIL? If so, is she a danger to us and our children? Do we really know what's going on in her head? If she comes back, she will need to be imprisoned. If not, she will need 24 hour surveillance. Do I want my taxes to be spent on either of these things, or on the NHS? Mmm. Difficult....Having said that, I'm very sorry for her. I wish she could come back, but she mustn't.

@ lol the letter thing!? How many kids fail to govern parents letters home!

Suppose they need a scapegoat

And she still does, dressed in western clothes, hair done, make up on!

Sure babe, validated reports for IDF but they don't need to be validated otherwise. There are other reports of children being raped and secually assaulted by IDF soldiers pre-Oct 7th - including a report put forward by a US official.

Just say you believe the victims depending on their race

And it's not a derail, just showcases the double standards, grown adults from the UK are joining the IDF, children being murdered left right and centre, abused and raped, we welcome them back into the country with no issue

Come on.

She willingly joined murderers who killed innocent men, women and children, in the most horrendous ways.

She knew they were doing this.

Would you feel sorry for a teenager who went to join the Nazis in the concentration camps? I wouldn't. Particularly evil.

Also, she would still be there if ISIS hadn't imploded.

Really? You really can't see a difference?

I don't feel any sympathy for her.

My sympathy lies with all those young people who were having a great night out at an Ariane Grande concert in Manchester and they never came home. Those poor parents that were at the venue waiting outside to give their teens a lift home.

As a parent I can't imagine anything much worse than that tbh.

I expect there is a lot more that we don't know about SB's activities as well.

If she was white she'd be home by now. Blood on the hands of the politicians who left her children to die in that camp

And that is the very point. Can anyone give any example of anyone white British, Christian, Jew or otherwise- without another nationality- who has been delested of British Nationality and refused return? This is illegal,in British and International Law.

Yet again…Samantha Lewthwaite.

How would we all feel if she was allowed back and then was active in a terrorist attack and people were killed?
She was a child when she left but we have no idea what she is or isn’t capable of now.

That's right, blame autism for all the problems in the world. Every single terrorist is on the autistic spectrum!

Yes, and no. Can't you see the hypocrisy here?

Yes this is true. We need to put the needs of innocent people first rather than protecting terrorists.

This case was purely about whether the government’s deprivation decision was legal. Turns out it was. Whether she was groomed or what happened to her wasn’t relevant to the Court of Appeal. It might go to the Supreme Court but it was a unanimous decision today so it won’t be easy to get the case to the Supreme Court.

This is how I feel about it. That once she was in the refugee camp with a baby surrounding by other religious fentatics who control the food and who lives and dies. You’re not at that point going to say anything other than what ISIS want to hear to stay alive.

She was a trafficked child. If you don't feel sorry for her in any way then you've been reading too much Daily mail and I feel sorrier for you and the brain cells you're obviously missing.

I wonder what you'd think if other Bangladesh revoked some of their citizens citizenship because they knew they technically qualified for UK citizenship.

Would it seem fair to you that it's a case of the first one who revokes it 'wins' ?

Seems desperately unfair that with someone who can qualify for duel citizenship that the country where they grew up in, where they were radicalized etc gets to wash their hands of them even though the other country may not even know of this person. The country they were radicalised in would have access to all the information and intelligence and then can just say nah we're revoking citizenship and make them another countries problem?

Anyway in this case the UK is leaving her in Syria, why on earth should she be Syrias problem? They didn't want her to go there in the first place.

Every dog that has ever ripped a child's face off was once an innocent puppy. But that innocent puppy doesn't exist anymore. You can feel sorry for the puppy it once was, and maybe even the life that it led, but you're a fool to feel sorry for the dangerous beast it is now. Once a dog has turned, that's it. It needs to be taken out of society.

I do too. She is a British citizen and what we have here is a 2 tier system whereby if you are non-white you can be deported or refused entry if you have the remotest link to another country, but if you are white British you can commit the most heinous crimes but stay in the UK prison system. The whole thing stinks and the British government should be ashamed of themselves.

When she’s been interviewed she’s shown no regret , she is a threat to security. £250,000 in legal aid , so far , I despair .

I can't see any hypocrisy in the girls in Rotherham being treated as victims and Shamima Begum being treated as a criminal, no. Could you explain where you think the hypocrisy is?

Pwrsonally, I feel sorry for the reflexive, easily-led objectors who think there’s something noble about championing this cause.

You have to be pretty dim to think Begum didn’t bring this on herself and has been given every opportunity to make her case.

In a way that’s what I worry about most. The bien pensant ‘progressives’ create heroes and martyrs out of people like Shamima Begum.

I agree leaving her stateless should not be permitted under international law.

It’s also made me question whether my British born/raised child is truly British or if she is more of my nationality, depending on… She is not Bangladeshi, never has been. She was groomed on British soil, left Britain to join Isis and Britain is where she should return to.

This to me feels like an extension of some children not being treated as children. Any documentary on ISIS recruitment will show you they are very adept at grooming and warping young minds, hence they can attract young people of all colour and creed. She was a child like any other child being groomed and she should come home.