To feel sorry for Shamima Begum?

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I do, I’m afraid. I think she should be able to come home. She was 15! Have any men been stripped of their citizenship that we know about?

@Gettingbysomehow

Most people don't want the men who came across the Channel in boats here either.

Like the girls in Rochdale?

Both children, coerced and abuswd by men... why is one group a victim, and begum a criminal?

Sucks teeth Ohhhh.
Is that allowed to stand?

The sympathisers are lapping up everything she claims blindly believing it because she says it so it must be so

They always do, Bbq1 - no matter what the story they parrot it as if it's written on tablets of stone

Unfortunately these are the same people who'd resist even "an eye being kept on Shamima" with cries of "How can she build a decent life like this?"

Pity their concern doesn't extend to the security of the rest of us, but there you go

I wonder how happy everyone would be if Syria, Afghanistan etc refused to take back their terrorists?

Yeah... And... ?

She was part of ISIS ffs. No sympathy from me.

What does this have to do with Begum?

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Bangladesh are welcome to take her back.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/22/claims-of-israeli-sexual-assault-of-palestinian-women-are-credible-un-panel-says

I guess they're 'human animals' so doesn't matter so much, ps when they say girls they mean children

She can rot in hell for all I care.

I don't think you're at all unreasonable, OP. As so many PPs have said, she was groomed and she's had three children die. It's a shameful decision.

I do in the sense that I feel she was trapped once she went out there and that she lost 3 babies (I've lost one child and it nearly broke me). But then she doubled down (bragging about horrific murders not fazing her, celebrating terrorists succeeding) and I worry she's too far gone and a serious danger. She would have been quite happy to live in "paradise" if ISIS had succeeded. She only changed her tune when it became clear they wouldn't win. I think she would have happily lived like a commanders wife from the Handmaids tale, oppressing others without a second thought.

The court ruling says there is credible suspicion she was groomed and trafficked at 15 and that UK protective services failed to protect her.

I feel sorry for her. She was just a surly unhappy teenager when she left and she's paid an extremely high price for her (very stupid) mistake.

Both children, coerced and abuswd by men... why is one group a victim, and begum a criminal?

To be fair it took a long time for those children to be viewed and treated as victims, and again protective services failed in their duty to protect them.

But it is true. The uk could only legally take away her citizenship because she had the legal
option to apply for Bangladeshi citizenship. Because it is illegal for a person to be stateless. Had there been no option for her to apply for Bangladeshi citizenship, I.e her parents were white British only the uk could not legally have taken away her uk citizenship.
that is how it works. They are only allowed to do this, this is only happening because of her ethnicity. If her parents were white British, they could not legally remove her citizenship.

@SweetBirdsong

Nothing whatsoever. I was responding to the poster that mentioned them.

I feel for her too. She was 15!
They are making an example of her, but not at all fair on her

Who are these 'protective services'

Yeah.... seeing people into suicide vests and applauding Manchester arena bombing..... poor girl eh??

*sewing

Suspicion isn't hard evidence though which is what the Court needed to overrule the citizenship decision. Also they are aware that her story has changed over the years, and that at the beginning her lawyers didn't say she was trafficked.

Yes, I do need it spelling out, thanks for your kind offer - why can't Sajid tell us what Shamina did?

Please ensure you back it up with evidence though. Just saying it's confidential is your opinion, and not fact.

Lots that been said about Shamina on this thread is opinion and hearsay (that means it is not fact, so you cannot believe it).