To feel sorry for Shamima Begum?

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I do, I’m afraid. I think she should be able to come home. She was 15! Have any men been stripped of their citizenship that we know about?

What I meant was that we’ve all been guilty of thinking we know it all at 15 and making stupid decisions

At the end of the day, she was 15 and groomed online. Most of us have never been in that situation. Those who have are considered victims by most people

As I said originally, she should be brought back home and dealt with appropriately

No

Don't be ignorant.

@Newchapterbeckons

But she willingly choose to go, and stayed there well into adulthood. Had she wanted to return sooner, she could have done

You are very ignorant there's no way she could leave once they got her. Dont tell us you thought she could just go book a flight home

@OodlesPoodle so who do you think should risk their life attempting to rescue her?

Liam Neeson?

Agreed

Haven't read the comments as the thread is already 25 pages long, but yes I do.

I think the treatment of her by government and media highlights just how misogynistic out society was at the time (and still is).

There seems to be a much more visceral and sincerely hateful reaction toward SB that there is toward the actual men holding the power and committing the crimes.

Women supporting any causes later deemed unsavoury seem to always throughout history be perceived as much worse than the people in power.

I'm wondering if the unique position women hold in society (powerless and victimised but also benefitting from these arrangements depending on circumstance), causes a special kind of vitriol - it's like a mix of disrespect and envy, desire and hate. Or maybe it's displaced aggression because the real targets are perceived as too powerful?

Legal Aid; us; we are paying via taxes. Is Tony Blairs wife involved? Her Chambers made a fortune from similar cases.

Her own free will? You have no idea what grooming is do you

The Court of Appeal don't agree with you that the law has been broken.

So you actually think victims of grooming and trafficking and kidnapping are only rescued in films? Give me strength.

she was a child and we have all done silly things and listened to other peoples ideas at that age. she has lost 3 children and should be allowed to return to give her views and sort this out.

lh

Guest House for Young Widows by Azadeh Moaveni was on Radio 4 a few years ago. The story of young girls travelling to Syria and marrying men and having babies. No chance of going home, their husbands died and left them homeless.

@OodlesPoodle give ME strength

She's in a Syrian prison camp. She can't just walk out!

On the other thread I asked who groomed her. No response.
She was not groomed, she chose of her own free will.

British citizens commit terrible crimes every day. We have a robust justice system, and we have prisons - high security if necessary. She should be in the UK.

She was a member of the ISIS morality police for years and was known for being particularly harsh. She was unfazed by beheaded corpses in bins and justified the Manchester bombings while trying to reenter the UK.

These 'teenager did something silly online' comments are unhinged.

She followed her bestie out there..... sharmeena begum. Best friend, no relation

How dare we dump our criminals on other countries? Everything our government does makes me ashamed these days.

I do feel sorry for her. She made a stupid decision as a kid and she has paid for it and will keep paying for it forevermore. She seems completely traumatised and damaged. On a human level, I feel intense pity for her.

I don’t think she should have been stripped of her citizenship. I think she should have been brought back to the UK and treated like any other criminal/terrorist - court case, imprisonment, punishment and perhaps rehabilitation. Of course - she must pay for her crimes, even if she was a child when the whole sorry trajectory started.

Washing our hands of a problem that is ultimately ours as British people seems a pathetic, almost cowardly approach.

@SnowflakeSparkles I agree with everything you've said.

To be fair Syria have her in a heavily guarded prison camp..... they won't just hand her over anyway

Isn't joining a terrorist organisation a crime in itself?

Do you need that spelled out? It’s confidential. If she was just a wee daft lassie who made a mistake they wouldn’t care too much, let her back with surveillance. There is a reason they haven’t.

aw bless her my favourite ting was wen she said she agreed wit the mancester attack-tey deserved it apparently

ses playing te victim as noone wants er anymore