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To be sick of the police!!

416 replies

Noangelbuthavingfun · 22/02/2024 18:39

Yet another one .... rapist ..before He even joined the force. WTAF is going on ?
You can't trust the very people that you are supposed to ! Add to that the failings of the police "force" dealing with Grace and Barnaby case recently and the awful disrespectful texts that we heard about .... and you just think what de hell is going on !! Unforgivable!

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FatPrincess · 22/02/2024 21:56

I will be insisting on female officers if I ever need their assistance.

Hmm, I remember the footage of that crying autistic girl being arrested by a female copper for having said something online which wasn't actually meant to be offensive (said somebody "was a lesbian like Auntie Jo" or whatever the name was, and was clearly just making a factual statement).

Poor girl was cowering in the closet under the stairs crying and the female officer looked so smug arresting her.

Bicyclecycle · 22/02/2024 21:56

PhoenixStarbeamer · 22/02/2024 21:19

Disgusted with the police atm. Did you know you can beat someone half to death to the point they need emergency surgery, have it filmed on CCTV, have countless witnesses and the police will release them on bail and tell you they are unsure if there will be a conviction

You do realise it’s the CPS and not the Police who prosecute cases. It’s also up to half wit jurors to decide whether someone is guilty.

tryingtogetinshape · 22/02/2024 22:12

TheGrimSqueakersFlea · 22/02/2024 18:50

@ticktickticktickBOOM female officers aren't any better

Very true i asked for help once from a female officer and she called me a tart.
I was trying to report forced sex at the time.

spicedlemonpie · 22/02/2024 22:16

The police are more bent than the criminals never will i trust one.

Blackcats7 · 22/02/2024 22:23

I had contact with the police recently as a victim of crime. Their response and “investigation” was so poor that I eventually said that I would make a complaint.
Directly after this a very angry police officer accompanied by a scared pcso arrived unannounced at my home and he was so verbally in my face and I would describe as aggressive that it reduced me to tears.
He already knew that I was a vulnerable victim as I am disabled and unwell but actually seemed furious that I should have the temerity to ask any questions.
If this is the level of barely controlled aggression he showed to me I would fully believe him capable of much worse to a suspect.
I later made a complaint about him but was completely fobbed off by the senior officer.
I have no confidence in the police anymore.

Noseybookworm · 22/02/2024 22:33

Unfortunately professions that give power over other people can often attract those who will abuse that power. They really need to have more rigorous evaluation of applicants and ongoing monitoring.

sprigatito · 22/02/2024 22:36

Blackcats7 · 22/02/2024 22:23

I had contact with the police recently as a victim of crime. Their response and “investigation” was so poor that I eventually said that I would make a complaint.
Directly after this a very angry police officer accompanied by a scared pcso arrived unannounced at my home and he was so verbally in my face and I would describe as aggressive that it reduced me to tears.
He already knew that I was a vulnerable victim as I am disabled and unwell but actually seemed furious that I should have the temerity to ask any questions.
If this is the level of barely controlled aggression he showed to me I would fully believe him capable of much worse to a suspect.
I later made a complaint about him but was completely fobbed off by the senior officer.
I have no confidence in the police anymore.

This is so typical. I had a group of officers turn up at my house to intimidate and threaten me and my children a few months ago. They were looking for my brother (who doesn't live here and hadn't actually done anything wrong). They do as they please, and they know the public has no meaningful recourse.

egowise · 22/02/2024 22:50

MenArePeopleToo · 22/02/2024 20:38

I'm female police officer and these threads really hurt me and affect me.

You should be hurt that your colleagues are harming, raping and murdering women.

We do not feel safe.

TheChippendenSpook · 22/02/2024 22:55

egowise · 22/02/2024 22:50

You should be hurt that your colleagues are harming, raping and murdering women.

We do not feel safe.

What a ridiculous comment. Why do you think she is hurt and affected? She's hurt and affected BECAUSE she cares. It doesn't fit the narrative though does it? The narrative that every police officer is corrupt and doesn't give a shit. It's tiring.

MenArePeopleToo · 22/02/2024 22:58

TheChippendenSpook · 22/02/2024 22:55

What a ridiculous comment. Why do you think she is hurt and affected? She's hurt and affected BECAUSE she cares. It doesn't fit the narrative though does it? The narrative that every police officer is corrupt and doesn't give a shit. It's tiring.

Thank you so much, this exactly. I hope in my following posts it was clear I don't agree with the actions of some. There are some wonderful experiences to be had by working in the police, there's a reason so many people choose to do it despite the negative press and the most vulnerable people in society ( especially children and disabled or minorities ) aren't the ones critiquing, someone has to do it.

dottiedodah · 22/02/2024 22:58

There are a lot of these kind of guys .however there surely are some decent ones as well. We are seeing the worst in the media.a balance would be good to see

TheChippendenSpook · 22/02/2024 23:04

MenArePeopleToo · 22/02/2024 22:58

Thank you so much, this exactly. I hope in my following posts it was clear I don't agree with the actions of some. There are some wonderful experiences to be had by working in the police, there's a reason so many people choose to do it despite the negative press and the most vulnerable people in society ( especially children and disabled or minorities ) aren't the ones critiquing, someone has to do it.

Honestly, these threads infuriate me. I could say a lot more but there's no point.

Nobody should murder or rape or assault anybody (obviously ) but you'd think that there are police officers on and off duty murdering people left, right and centre, going off what some posters are saying on here.

TheChippendenSpook · 22/02/2024 23:08

dottiedodah · 22/02/2024 22:58

There are a lot of these kind of guys .however there surely are some decent ones as well. We are seeing the worst in the media.a balance would be good to see

Someone very close to me stood in front of somebody stealing a quad bike whilst he was on duty. He got ran over for his efforts. A quad bike! But he cared so much that someone was stealing somebody else's property that he stood in front of them and tried to stop them. So nobody can tell me that all police officers don't give a shit about people or preventing crime. They can fuck off.

damnedwhatever · 22/02/2024 23:11

I'm female police officer and these threads really hurt me and affect me.

What's your perspective on the inside ?

I'm also a female police officer . It's pointless trying to engage in these types of threads .

Don't bother is my advice .

BluebellsareBlue · 22/02/2024 23:14

Can we not be tarring all officers with the one brush please!!! Some of us spent 30 years treating people with dignity, fairness and respect. Some of us ran into danger when those have run from it and have the battle wounds, including stab/slice marks. Please be specific and remember one size does not fit all

damnedwhatever · 22/02/2024 23:25

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BookwormDadUK · 22/02/2024 23:26

DojaPhat · 22/02/2024 19:32

The nurses and doctors comparison just doesn't hold up. The HCPs aren't state sanctioned enactors of violence. Not too long ago the armed officers whatever that unit is called apparently handed in their guns in protest against one of their own being held accountable for the murder of Chris Kaba. Imagine getting all het up because you won't be allowed to shoot anyone without impunity. If water is wet don't say it's dry.

Actually, water isn't wet. I found this out a few months ago and it blew my mind. scienceline.ucsb.edu/getkey.php?key=6097

damnedwhatever · 22/02/2024 23:31

I've had enough. Not if the job I love and do to the absolute best of my ability. But if these threads . I ready to call it a day . Knowing how badly I'm thought of when I am the one who stands in the way of a gunman shooting at cars and threatening me with that massive fuck of machete , axe , and zombie knife .

Maybe Mumsnet knows better . They can have a go . I'm putting in for retirement. I've absolutely had enough.

PaintInColour · 22/02/2024 23:36

HelloMiss · 22/02/2024 19:23

Murdering doctors and nurses are just as bad

What a ridiculous and immature response to the OP.

damnedwhatever · 22/02/2024 23:36

Scuse typos . Fucked off typing makes mistakes

hannabanana11 · 22/02/2024 23:39

I think like with any career, the bad will always get publicity and be spoken about. My father is a retired policeman and was an incredibly kind and empathic person who couldn't do enough to help people, he burnt out though and retired at 50. He did see a lot of corruption in the job over the years. I guess my point of the post is not to tar all officers with one brush, there are good and bad apples in all jobs

BluebellsareBlue · 22/02/2024 23:40

Fellow cops on here. These people on this site have absolutely NO idea what we deal with on a day to day basis. From a SIDS death straight to your next call, an injury domestic, then a stabbing/suicide etc. don't get annoyed, be thankful that we are brave enough to get up the next day and go again, these people don't!

damnedwhatever · 22/02/2024 23:43

BluebellsareBlue · 22/02/2024 23:40

Fellow cops on here. These people on this site have absolutely NO idea what we deal with on a day to day basis. From a SIDS death straight to your next call, an injury domestic, then a stabbing/suicide etc. don't get annoyed, be thankful that we are brave enough to get up the next day and go again, these people don't!

Thanks for that reminder . It's hard . To do your absolute best every single day for victims and still get slated is more than demoralising. And morale is at rock bottom anyway and has been for a long time .

We aren't all Wayne couzens . Every police officer I know doesn't want to be working with bent cops.

Treeper22 · 22/02/2024 23:55

Serencwtch · 22/02/2024 21:35

I recently spent nearly 24 hrs with police on a s136 (mental health) in a&e as no other POS available. All of them were amazing, really kind & caring and nothing was too much trouble. NHS staff both a&e & MH were rude, unhelpful, disorganized and unprofessional at times.
I have schizo-affective disorder (type of bipolar) and crises often fall to the police to deal with.

I don't think people realize just how much the police are picking up the pieces of a broken NHS. Its not just funding that's a problem in mental health it's the appalling attitudes & culture of poor treatment.

I was quite shocked how abusive members of the public & a&e staff were to the officers with me. At one point 1 of the officers who was spending their whole shift looking after me was assisting with an elderly patient who had wandered & a&e staff were struggling with. A woman came up to the officers shouting and having a go at them telling them what a disgrace the police are. Another person wanted them to leave the dept (they couldn't) as apparently they were aggressive & threatening (they weren't & were stuck with me)

I think there's an arrogant small minority that the police forces need to tackle but in comparison to our NHS staff our police are pretty good.

Edited

Just wanted to second this! Once had two female police officers do a welfare check on me and they were much more compassionate and human than most of the NHS mental health workers. Would much rather see them again than the dehumanising and box ticking crisis team.

On the other hand I have a relative who has decades experience training police in regards domestic abuse and they confirm that there is a definite culture of dismissing, minimising and not believing women. In fact I regularly witness her sheer desperation at their lack action in high risk cases. So the culture does need changing.