To be sick of the police!!

[Noangelbuthavingfun]

Yet another one .... rapist ..before He even joined the force. WTAF is going on ?
You can't trust the very people that you are supposed to ! Add to that the failings of the police "force" dealing with Grace and Barnaby case recently and the awful disrespectful texts that we heard about .... and you just think what de hell is going on !! Unforgivable!

Thank you for asking. I would never deny anyone's experience, its really damaging and prevents any real change or growth but from the inside I have been here over ten years. I'm in a detective role and all of my supervisors are excellent and mostly female. We have a lovely time. I was treated terribly as a teenager in jobs before hand where I was always shy and it's bought me a wealth of confidence in talking to anyone. It's also made me realise nobody is perfect. I think a lot of resentment for police comes from the expectation that there will never be any fault. I agree his should actually be the case and obviously police officers have a much higher standard to adhere to so not to be hypocritical to most of society more than anything but to be honest I spend my life at work and I'm too busy focusing on what I'm doing to ever be able to take it in much if a bad apple is in the news. Its disgusting and shocking when you hear these things but life quite literally continues the next day and I'm convinced the only way out of the public perception is to just keep working hard and make a difference to your immediate victims and their families. It can be disheartening when you've had a week of extreme misery and responsibility and the public slag you off though. I can understand opinions and it's assumed police should never say anything in response as its perceived as total denial of any issues, its not the case but many to become defensive when they know they're not corrupt, not a misogynist, not homophobic, not sexist etc and you're still tarred with the same brush. Especially when there's so much sacrifice with our personal lives to be able to do the job. I would never ever judge anyone on their profession now though and I do like how much its broadened my thinking because of it as it makes society on the whole seem a lot more equal and the same.

Well they're a fuck of a lot less likely to be rapists, for a start...

Yep. Think you are right. The world would be a lot better if we did away with the police.

Someone I’m close to’s parent was married to a retired one. They assaulted them and their sibling (older but still technically children at the time), assaulted the family dogs, kept a locked case of knives under a spare bed, stalked when they separated and engaged in plenty C&C behaviours.
The PC who dealt with it didn’t do anything aside from record a report of the concerns which was considered very risky but nothing was done (same force said person used to work in).
A few years later, despite said reports, the perpetrator was employed as a volunteer for them, accessing vulnerable persons who’ve experienced DA, being able to know where they lived.
After concerns were raised, assurances were given they would be removed. A few months later, it turns out this had never happened because existing PC’s involved felt ‘bad’ that it would impact the project taking away their volunteering. It’s had to be raised again and more assurances given they definitely will be stopped this time…

If I have to go into the station to report something or make a statement I shall insist on female police officers.

I have in the past and it has been respected.

I'm ex police
I agree with all here.
It was so differentt when i was in but...
there is a lot of sexism, racism, power and control and they don't give a shit about their own...
I have no trust in police

It’s really difficult to take an objective look at the police service when there are these reports. What you do need to do is understand how many police officers there are in the country and then compare the offending rates of these to other professions.

It would probably be quite accurate to say that there’s very little deviation compared to other professions. When you hire someone, if they have no previous convictions, you’re not going to know if they will go one and offend. If they do offend, then you need individuals to come forward otherwise it’s exceptionally difficult to identify potential issues.

What really doesn’t help is the armchair warriors who think they know everything about a specific job when they obviously don’t. Sometime you just wish these individuals would put their money where their months and become a police officer.

Disgusted with the police atm. Did you know you can beat someone half to death to the point they need emergency surgery, have it filmed on CCTV, have countless witnesses and the police will release them on bail and tell you they are unsure if there will be a conviction

Yes, and some of Wayne Couzens' colleagues knew exactly what he was like, that his attitude was suspect and kept quiet about it. If proven I'd like to think they were shown the door, but somehow I doubt it. It's this 'police family' culture, and it's 'not done' to dob someone in, so just look the other way, as you might need them to watch your own back. I'm sure there will be people coming on to say this isn't the case, police bashing, yada, yada, and whilst it may not be true of all police officers, that doesn't mean to say it isn't a problem with others.

The Police Force per se needs a root and branch overhaul - it is not fit for purpose, their training must be total crap, and the poster who said that not a week goes by without hearing of yet another crooked cop is right. And what a sick joke it is that one of the officers in the case of the murders of Grace, Barnaby & Ian got a 'final warning' as punishment! Big deal, the bloke should have been sacked outright and his pension entitlement stopped. Disgraceful so-called human being will still be working!

Totally agree with this. There are problems in every profession. Look how many children are abused in the care system. Or children that have been known to social services. Who have been killed. There's abuse in care homes , hospitals etc but we don't hardly ever talk about that do we. "Lessons will be learned " all that's ever said then it's forgotten about. But with the police apprently everyone of them is bad. I guess we would still call them if we need them though?

@Blakessevenrideagain

You're right that the police seem desperate to recruit, they have just taken my former colleague on as a CPSO, and she's actually dyslexic and has anxiety issues, good luck to her, but I wonder how long she will last, can't imagine how she will cope with writing reports, for instance.

I think a lot of resentment for police comes from the expectation that there will never be any fault

It's not just "any fault" though is it. We keep hearing about male police officers who rape and abuse and even kill. That's a hell of a lot more than "any fault" - that's evil and violent. And there have been officers who have known what the likes of Couzens were like, yet said nothing and then a woman was raped and murdered.

No I don't expect the police officers serving in our communities to be perfect. I do expect them not to be sex offenders though. If someone turns up at my door in response to a call for help I have made, how am I supposed to know if he is one of them?

Well, as they come out for only certain types of crime and to spot a police car on the roads is akin to spotting the first cuckoo of the year....we might well call them if we need them, but would they bother turning out?

And I agree about other agencies having problems too, but the number of times a Police chief has said "lessons will be learnt" and (my particular favourite): "we remain committed to providing a service" ....etc." after something has gone terribly wrong where "a service" has patently NOT been provided is up there with the best of them.

It also attracts people with a strong social conscience, who feel they want to help people and want to make a difference. Not every cop is power crazy.

One of the most interesting of this relatively recent spike in distrust even dislike of the police is just that - it's recency. It's like watching someone taste a slice of the best carrot cake in the entire universe for the first time and watching them marvel at it, but it's your gran's recipe so you've been eating it your entire life so already knew.

It is the case that people who crave power are in the police force so it’s no surprise that they bully and exploit people because they feel untouchable.

I know a couple of people who were bullied or abused in childhood who now are in the police and when asked why they chose that career they say things along the lines of ‘’I want to punish the scum’’. Basically they want an excuse to take their own troubles out on the rest of the world

I find these threads so frustrating. We can't bash teachers, or doctors, or firefighters, but Police Officers are fair game. There are 10,000s of officers, the majority are good people, who want to help and work hard.

I recently spent nearly 24 hrs with police on a s136 (mental health) in a&e as no other POS available. All of them were amazing, really kind & caring and nothing was too much trouble. NHS staff both a&e & MH were rude, unhelpful, disorganized and unprofessional at times.
I have schizo-affective disorder (type of bipolar) and crises often fall to the police to deal with.

I don't think people realize just how much the police are picking up the pieces of a broken NHS. Its not just funding that's a problem in mental health it's the appalling attitudes & culture of poor treatment.

I was quite shocked how abusive members of the public & a&e staff were to the officers with me. At one point 1 of the officers who was spending their whole shift looking after me was assisting with an elderly patient who had wandered & a&e staff were struggling with. A woman came up to the officers shouting and having a go at them telling them what a disgrace the police are. Another person wanted them to leave the dept (they couldn't) as apparently they were aggressive & threatening (they weren't & were stuck with me)

I think there's an arrogant small minority that the police forces need to tackle but in comparison to our NHS staff our police are pretty good.

Completely anecdotal but I lived next door to the scariest woman. Always shouting at her kids in the nastiest way, whacking them and leaving baby crying for hours. Couldn’t believe someone like her existed. Was gobsmacked to discover she was high up in the met.

You get good and bad in all walks of life and all professions. It isn’t specific to police.

Sorry what? Your saying they have hired a known rapist?

A friend's DD has been in on the police for just 6 months. She has just submitted her second sexual harassment complaint in that time. Misogyny and sexism is rife, including amongst the males in her own intake.

Agree

2 years before he was hired there was a rape allegation and he still sailed through

I actually read on here that a lot of school bullies go into the army or the police force. That could be the reason why quite a few police officers turn out to be rapists, murderers, or just generally nasty people. I am not bashing the police. I have no doubt most are good. Also it’s not just the male police officers. The women can be awful too.