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To be sick of the police!!

416 replies

Noangelbuthavingfun · 22/02/2024 18:39

Yet another one .... rapist ..before He even joined the force. WTAF is going on ?
You can't trust the very people that you are supposed to ! Add to that the failings of the police "force" dealing with Grace and Barnaby case recently and the awful disrespectful texts that we heard about .... and you just think what de hell is going on !! Unforgivable!

OP posts:
Jamongranary · 24/02/2024 18:29

damnedwhatever · 24/02/2024 18:26

There is no impropriety. I'm a woman . I kept in touch with 2 women who I pulled out all the stops to help .

that's so nice of you 💐

RosieTheChi · 24/02/2024 18:34

Lou670 · 24/02/2024 18:00

@RosieTheChi what the this thread or the post? I am able to see the whole thread.

Sorry I meant the other thread that was mentioned.

HatThatWearsYou · 24/02/2024 18:43

RosieTheChi · 24/02/2024 17:56

Is this thread still available to read?

It was a quote from a post in this thread on page nine.

damnedwhatever · 24/02/2024 19:01

The poster slating me got angry when I referred to a black person as a person of colour. They say that's racist .

Some of my friends are black . Some are Asian . Some like to be referred to as black others prefer person of colour.

That was my "racist " comment . That poster takes great pleasure in trailing around these boards looking for me to slag off . I personally couldn't be arsed . They don't like police . They are on the FWR board and I challenged a thread on there that was also anti police . So there we go .

RosieTheChi · 24/02/2024 19:04

damnedwhatever · 24/02/2024 19:01

The poster slating me got angry when I referred to a black person as a person of colour. They say that's racist .

Some of my friends are black . Some are Asian . Some like to be referred to as black others prefer person of colour.

That was my "racist " comment . That poster takes great pleasure in trailing around these boards looking for me to slag off . I personally couldn't be arsed . They don't like police . They are on the FWR board and I challenged a thread on there that was also anti police . So there we go .

Oh I see. Thank you for explaining. It's so hard to know what terms are acceptable as it constantly changes.

HatThatWearsYou · 24/02/2024 19:25

damnedwhatever · 24/02/2024 19:01

The poster slating me got angry when I referred to a black person as a person of colour. They say that's racist .

Some of my friends are black . Some are Asian . Some like to be referred to as black others prefer person of colour.

That was my "racist " comment . That poster takes great pleasure in trailing around these boards looking for me to slag off . I personally couldn't be arsed . They don't like police . They are on the FWR board and I challenged a thread on there that was also anti police . So there we go .

Well I was trying not to single you out, but as I've said before I honestly think you post a lot of what you post for attention, and you out yourself all the time.

Yes that was what I was referring to with the racist comment.

No I don't follow you around looking to slag you off, don't be silly. I am not the only poster who has recognised your very distinctive posting style - and have told you before, it is really very distinctive.

You are easy to spot if you are posting in a thread I am reading. We do frequent a couple of the same boards, and although I've come across quite a few, I haven't posted on any of the threads you've started since the Russell Brand one.

I actually don't dislike the police, I really think we need them. I am however allowed to be concerned and angry at the state of things as they are. It's not good enough. And no I don't have the answers before you ask.

The FWR thread you are talking about was the Caroline Farrow wrongful arrest thread.
You weren't challenging the thread, a lot of people had posted their quite serious experiences of injustice at the hands of the police.

What you actually did was mock me when I relayed a very mild experience of a police car drive by me multiple times late at night where I mentioned that it could be taken as very intimidating as a lone woman, and that I could understand (given everything, not just my miniscule nothing of an experience) why women as a group distrusted the police as a group.

You were told off for being rude by a number of posters, flounced and then later started another thread to say how everyone in FWR had been mean to you, and mocked me specifically again.

You seem to have very unhealthy personal boundaries, which you have posted about frequently over the years. I won't list them, you've been told by other people multiple times what they are.

You seem to have iffy professional boundaries - are police officers actually allowed to invite MNers to PM them with their issues and use their work computer to help them - obviously I don't know what help you are offering.

Honestly I really do think you have some alcohol issues - sorry (really, I'm not trying to be mean).

Also going from the posts I've read, you seem to have a passing acquaintance with the truth IMO.

Is it ok to continue a personal relationship with people you met as victims via your work? I don't know if it's allowed, but if it was I don't think I'd have a problem with it, if you seemed to have healthy boundaries.

HatThatWearsYou · 24/02/2024 19:33

damnedwhatever · 24/02/2024 19:01

The poster slating me got angry when I referred to a black person as a person of colour. They say that's racist .

Some of my friends are black . Some are Asian . Some like to be referred to as black others prefer person of colour.

That was my "racist " comment . That poster takes great pleasure in trailing around these boards looking for me to slag off . I personally couldn't be arsed . They don't like police . They are on the FWR board and I challenged a thread on there that was also anti police . So there we go .

Where did the edit feature go? Maybe I was too late.

FWIW Actually, I think the term you used was "coloured" not "person of colour".

manipulatrice · 24/02/2024 19:40

@damnedwhatever if you told PSD then yes, you are in the clear.
If you didn't, well, I wouldn't do it in the current climate 🤷🏼‍♀️

damnedwhatever · 24/02/2024 20:02

And there I will rest my case .

I've never used a work computer to assist anyone via pm. Where have I ever indicated that ? My work computer isn't even used to access the news ! It's used for work . And work only .

I've broken no professional standards what so ever - ever . There is no rule that says after a case is closed and done - you cannot stay in touch . I've not used that for gain - I'm not a predator, I've stayed in touch with 2 people in 16 years because they wanted to stay in touch .

No I'm not having an issue with alcohol. Simply put I am an insomniac who browses mn at night because I don't sleep .

I seriously didn't mean to be rid to you and if that's what you took from my input on the fwr thrqad then I'm truly sorry and have said that before . I have no idea why you stick the knife in in every thread I appear on .

Yep I'm distinctive. I name change . But these threads really piss me off and I am trying to show the other side of policing . I do wear my heart on my sleeve . That's me . I apologise if I ever upset you . But please leave me alone .

RosieTheChi · 24/02/2024 20:11

damnedwhatever · 24/02/2024 20:02

And there I will rest my case .

I've never used a work computer to assist anyone via pm. Where have I ever indicated that ? My work computer isn't even used to access the news ! It's used for work . And work only .

I've broken no professional standards what so ever - ever . There is no rule that says after a case is closed and done - you cannot stay in touch . I've not used that for gain - I'm not a predator, I've stayed in touch with 2 people in 16 years because they wanted to stay in touch .

No I'm not having an issue with alcohol. Simply put I am an insomniac who browses mn at night because I don't sleep .

I seriously didn't mean to be rid to you and if that's what you took from my input on the fwr thrqad then I'm truly sorry and have said that before . I have no idea why you stick the knife in in every thread I appear on .

Yep I'm distinctive. I name change . But these threads really piss me off and I am trying to show the other side of policing . I do wear my heart on my sleeve . That's me . I apologise if I ever upset you . But please leave me alone .

For what it's worth, you have helped me to not see all police officers through the same lens. Yes I've had bad experiences but it wouldn't be fair of me to say they are all the same.

I have appreciated the time you have taken on this thread to explain things show the other side of policing and it has been interesting to read.

I can't say that I will trust the Police due to my bad experiences but I will definitely try to take each one as I find them and not judge them on their uniform alone.

manipulatrice · 24/02/2024 20:23

If you can't see that exchanging your personal number with a victim you were the OIC for, and, gifting those people personal items DOESN'T warrant a quick email to PSD, you're either not a copper, or, you can't be helped.

The fact you are so defensive suggests I doubt you are in the profession you claim to be, as you lack the simple understanding of how it works.

damnedwhatever · 24/02/2024 20:27

manipulatrice · 24/02/2024 20:23

If you can't see that exchanging your personal number with a victim you were the OIC for, and, gifting those people personal items DOESN'T warrant a quick email to PSD, you're either not a copper, or, you can't be helped.

The fact you are so defensive suggests I doubt you are in the profession you claim to be, as you lack the simple understanding of how it works.

Where did I say I gave my personal number ?

I gifted a fridge to a young woman whose situation rendered her homeless and my Sgt knew about it because he helped me take it to her

This is mad ! On one hand everyone hated us cos we are inhuman and horrible and when I give an example of compassion I still get slated !

I'm out now . Sorry but I just can't be arsed anymore with this .

manipulatrice · 24/02/2024 20:28

And no, police officers would not be inviting MNetters to PM them with issues as we would then be duty bound to report these issues.
There would be no policing purposes for anyone to be using their work laptop outside of working hours to look anything up, and exactly what would be looked up baffles me as how would you do this, as its force dependant, unless PNC is being checked and that's just wrong.

Tbh, if I knew who @damnedwhatever was I would report them to PSD myself, and you will be lucky if other police employees on MN don't put an intel report on for you with your username(s).

manipulatrice · 24/02/2024 20:30

@damnedwhatever

"We stayed in touch by text . I am not emeshed into their lives . We just exchange the odd message and catch up"

How did you do this without exchanging phones? Was it via the power of telepathy?

damnedwhatever · 24/02/2024 20:30

Are you deaf or hard of reading ? I have never ever ever used my police computer on mn. Never . Not once !

RosieTheChi · 24/02/2024 20:31

manipulatrice · 24/02/2024 20:28

And no, police officers would not be inviting MNetters to PM them with issues as we would then be duty bound to report these issues.
There would be no policing purposes for anyone to be using their work laptop outside of working hours to look anything up, and exactly what would be looked up baffles me as how would you do this, as its force dependant, unless PNC is being checked and that's just wrong.

Tbh, if I knew who @damnedwhatever was I would report them to PSD myself, and you will be lucky if other police employees on MN don't put an intel report on for you with your username(s).

Where has @damnedwhatever said they used their laptop for personal reasons?

damnedwhatever · 24/02/2024 20:32

manipulatrice · 24/02/2024 20:30

@damnedwhatever

"We stayed in touch by text . I am not emeshed into their lives . We just exchange the odd message and catch up"

How did you do this without exchanging phones? Was it via the power of telepathy?

It is via my works mobile number which I give out regularly to victims of crime and am encouraged to do by the command team .

Please go away and leave me alone

damnedwhatever · 24/02/2024 20:35

I'm hiding this now because I'm gonna say something that I might regret.

I have absolutely nothing to hide . I've never given my personal number out or used my works laptop for personal use .

This is pathetic clutching at straws by people,e with an axe to grind . I'm not biting .

Stay frosty folks .

manipulatrice · 24/02/2024 20:38

Noangelbuthavingfun · 24/02/2024 07:52

May I ask anyone in the police force to shed a light on how performance management is done ? How often ...what are you assessed on....what are the repercussions of underperformance etc. As it may be that this is a root cause for not getting rid of if you have the wrong attitude ? Do crap cops even get let go ? How does it work ?

In my force, we don't have "targets" other than managing our own workload for the crimes we attend. They have to be done in certain timescales. You go to hundreds of jobs a week so you can imagine how big they get.

Yes, people are managed out, and for all sorts of reasons. It's a process the same as any other organisation unless it's something gross misconduct related or serious where you can be suspended immediately pending investigation which are lengthy. We can also anonymously report as well as colleagues.
Our body worn video is reviewed constantly by Sgts and Inspectors, as are our crimes and investigations.
Our computers are monitored as are our work phones and our airwaves.
Probation is 2 years or 3 on the degree entry route until you are substantive.

manipulatrice · 24/02/2024 20:39

Would struggle to find a policing purpose for outside of work to keep in contact with a victim...

Probably best you do hide this thread. The misinformation you are spreading is concerning.

RosieTheChi · 24/02/2024 20:41

@manipulatrice Thing is though, the body worn cameras are not always turned on. Do they need to be on for every house visit?

RosieTheChi · 24/02/2024 20:41

manipulatrice · 24/02/2024 20:39

Would struggle to find a policing purpose for outside of work to keep in contact with a victim...

Probably best you do hide this thread. The misinformation you are spreading is concerning.

What parts are misinformation? Genuine question.

damnedwhatever · 24/02/2024 20:42

manipulatrice · 24/02/2024 20:39

Would struggle to find a policing purpose for outside of work to keep in contact with a victim...

Probably best you do hide this thread. The misinformation you are spreading is concerning.

You're bonkers . 2 victims I gave my worlds mobile to during their investigation occasionally message me for a catch up .

If you seriously think that's an issue for psd ?

I've never used my work laptop for personal purposes - not even the weather . I've never given my personal number to anyone .

damnedwhatever · 24/02/2024 20:43

RosieTheChi · 24/02/2024 20:41

@manipulatrice Thing is though, the body worn cameras are not always turned on. Do they need to be on for every house visit?

They are turned on for every incident attended .

manipulatrice · 24/02/2024 20:44

Why are you using your work mobile outside of working hours firstly.
And yes, you would declare it. If you worked in a police station you would see the hundreds of professional standards posters on the walls for this exact scenario.

And don't even get me started on you taking home animals from detainees.

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