To be sick of the police!!

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Yet another one .... rapist ..before He even joined the force. WTAF is going on ?
You can't trust the very people that you are supposed to ! Add to that the failings of the police "force" dealing with Grace and Barnaby case recently and the awful disrespectful texts that we heard about .... and you just think what de hell is going on !! Unforgivable!

May I ask anyone in the police force to shed a light on how performance management is done ? How often ...what are you assessed on....what are the repercussions of underperformance etc. As it may be that this is a root cause for not getting rid of if you have the wrong attitude ? Do crap cops even get let go ? How does it work ?

unfortunately police seem to blame victims , in my case my daughter got bitten brutally in the face , we called to report the incident
police viewed CCTV ,called back , then was laughing and joking how it's not a big deal and saying " well your DD was unsupervised " ( as if my 6yo wandered off to family pub alone, the owners of dog were actively encouraging her to play with dog and feed it biscuits and we were right there ) , she said " don't blame yourself "

Then my best friend's daughter got SA at age of 10 by adult man and female police officer questioned my friend as if it's all untrue and made up , in the end nothing happened as there was "no proof "

I can give loads of examples :(

@damnedwhatever I think you need to be careful with your posts, almost every one contains a lot of detail about cases you have worked on; very outing.

As for 'I don't want to work with the corrupt', you already do.

You don't need an explanation. You said in your previous post there is no performance management. There you have it. You know it all.
You've gone from being enraged to trying to understand. Why?
So that police officers engage with you and get ripped to pieces by other posters with their very specific experiences as if somehow police are individually responsible.
I urge any police officers do not engage with this post.

This nearly had me in tears... I don't think we as the public see this side ever...and it's alarming to experience such polar opposites to the police actions and their dealings. THANK YOU for what you do - how can we get all police officers to be like you ??

@somebeesarebastards It is the police that are being very 'specific' in the details of the cases they have dealt with; so yes best for police officers to bow out of the thread now.

The thread was to have a moan at the police, perhaps you could enter a pro police thread, if you can find one on here.

When a thread has been posted everyone has a right to reply. You can't imply people should not post .

Thsts a ridiculous post snd you know if. Its perfectly reasonable to be outraged and then see genuine inside experience you would never normally see - and as humans we should want to understand and get insight as that's called learning and compassion. I'm still outraged - it's bloody awful. But don't come and accuse me on here for asking for insight as its in everyone's interest to see both sides of a problem. If you don't want to engage don't. Its like saying only look at one side of the story all the time .. if other police officers want to engage to show the injustice or the other side let them . U go and enjoy your Saturday

So here we go, the woman used her child as a shield etc... look at the way you are placing all the blame on the woman. The Police should be able to be trusted to react in a calm manner, and de-escalate situations, not inflame them, which is exactly what happened in this case. She was venting on the phone, not even speaking to them. I sincerely hope that you are not a Police Officer.

Thanks for being a good officer but please don't be angry at the public for distrust be angry with those inside who erode trust . We want to trust .

I can understand why police officers are giving their views and defending themselves - of course there are good ones and probably most are ! But there's a shed load of crap ones for various reasons with so many examples (news excluded) and I'm pretty sure any officer on the inside will have seen one and should also be outraged at the few that ruin the name of the force for many too!! It's a vicious cycle so good people won't want to join the force snd you will be left with the crap ones and power hungry as some posters referred to it

Is there a recent case in the news regarding this? Sorry if it’s been mentioned don’t have time to read full thread.

@donteatthedaisies0 I agree, we do want to trust and all we want is to be treated with respect and for officers to show that they care. It may not be a big issue to them but to the victim, it is huge. Not saying all are like this but my experiences haven't been good.

I recognise one of the "good" officers on this thread from posts under previous usernames.

They have been known to use racist & ableist terms, and have stated that they would not encourage a woman to report a rape because of the state of things with the police.

Along with a lot of other things they have said over the years, their general attitude, and apparent lack of any personal boundaries leads me to believe that if they are in fact a member of the police force, they really shouldn't be.

If you are referring to the 'victims who became lifelong friends' poster, then that doesn't surprise me...

If we fired every police officer that was a slightly unpleasant individual then we'd have an even bigger shortage. Tbh when a crazy guy starts stabbing people in the high street the main thing is that he gets stopped not "oh well, he stabbed a few more kids than we'd have liked because we didn't have the resource to get there quickly, but at least every attending officer was a nice person".

Agree why are so many people so sick?

Remember something as far back as Holly and Jessica in Soham too. Just keeps getting worse.
How would these people feel if it was their family?

@LadyKenya

At no point in my post did I say she was at fault. She didn't help matters and that's indisputable.

But did she or did she not use her baby as a shield during that??

If you are a mum I'd be interested to know whether you felt you would react in same way with your child?

@FatPrincess What sort of behaviour passes for 'slightly unpleasant'? Where is the line drawn from illegal drinking of coffee on a park bench (say during lockdown) and arresting a suspect who's only a suspect because his profile broadly matches a darker complexioned male and continuing to use force on said suspect despite his compliance with arrest?

Thing is, it shouldn't come down to a numbers game. Nobody would benefit from the wholesale increase in officers just to make up the numbers, especially women and certain groups of men.

I saw a quite interesting video not too long ago about the type of people who feel safer just by the presence of officers and those who don't. And how this divergence is narrowing and shifting. I don't have the solution - but I think it's great that public disquiet has led to the force having a reckoning from within. Granted it's been brought about largely because they messed with the wrong people, but great nonetheless.

@2mummies1baby 'victims that become lifelong friends' is a little worrying in itself isn't it? Are they not meant to get that involved outside of their work?

Is this thread still available to read?

@RosieTheChi what the this thread or the post? I am able to see the whole thread.

Whilst investigating the offences I had no contact other than professionally.

After the cases had been to court and closed i received a thank you card .

We stayed in touch by text . I am not emeshed into their lives . We just exchange the odd message and catch up .

There is nothing wrong with that . In 16 years I've stayed in touch with 2 ladies who I helped .

I gave one victim some stuff for her flat when she was made homeless as I had spare appliances in the garage .

I did that after the cases were closed .

I am absolutely certain I did not cross any boundaries or do wrong .

People moan the police aren't human or care .

And when I say I do care - that's called into question because I stayed in touch with a couple of women I helped after the cases were closed .

See my user name ? That's exactly how it is .

There is no impropriety. I'm a woman . I kept in touch with 2 women who I pulled out all the stops to help .