Please can someone say what labours manifesto is?

[Gymnoob]

Hi,

Looks like no choice but to vote labour this time. No idea what they actually stand for. I have listened to Kier and various things still none the wiser. I don’t know whether this is because they have less air time as the opposition or something else.

If anyone can sum up very briefly the 3 main policies or changes they will make.

To do the conservative comparison I would have said they wanted to;
Lower taxes (and plunge the £ into panic)
‘Fix’ the nhs
Have an odd obsession with sending everyone to Rwanda

But I can’t make a comparison for labour because no idea!

Thank you

Starmer is boring.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/10/10/keir-starmer-boring-voters-poll-public-opinion-labour/

No.

Tory paper prints story slagging Labour leader - in other news bears found defecating in woods.

Exactly.

Ooh. The Telegraph. Surprise surprise.

You have been busy with your links, haven't you?

Sometimes the stories write themselves.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/starmer-flip-flops-on-his-cps-record/

Useless link behind a paywall.

@kitfree1 what time are you off duty ? Or are you being paid overtime at Conservative HQ 😂 I find it weird that as so many ex Tory voters flee the party you’ve got posters on here still defending them…

She's certainly been very prolific very quickly.

Like the GOP in the US, it's obvious that there are some deep Labour plants in CCHQ (waves ay Kitfree1). Because "boring" and "back to square one" are probably the most succinct reasons to vote Labour.

Meanwhile, let's just remember the past 14 years under Tory rule, shall we, Kitfree1 ? Because that's not what "might" happen. That's what has. And it ain't great.

I'm looking forward to seeing a stop to the endless corruption of recent years. And the lying and gaslighting.

Waves back!
Are we in the playground?

It is important to remember that the alternative to those 14 years of Tory government would have been a government led by Jeremy Corbyn. Now we have the choice between an experienced and intelligent Prime Minister and someone who supported Corbyn for a long time.

Only today it seems the fig leaf for Tories that is Kemi Badenoch has been called a liar by the Canadian High Commission. Not quite sure she can know what a woman is if she can't tell the fucking truth, eh ?

And more lying from Badenoch:

x.com/PippaCrerar/status/1760214890201907212?s=20

Sunak? Experienced and intelligent? You certainly have comedy value.

Yeah. Trust her ? The fuck I would.

She seems to struggle deeply with facts and reality. Maybe not the great Right Saviour some were heralding.

(Obviously this is all down to the internecine battle for the role of next leader, I'm not that naïve. Given the state of the country it's probably better Tory ministers waste their efforts here than further fucking up the country).

It is important to remember that the alternative to those 14 years of Tory government would have been a government led by Jeremy Corbyn.

Tell you what, dear. You carry on with your creative writing, and the rest of us will carry on with research,. facts and history shall we ? Whoever prepped you must have thought we were as thick as David Davies. (Was it David Davies ?)

It is important to remember that the alternative to those 14 years of Tory government would have been a government led by Jeremy Corbyn.

Really? Jeremy Corbyn was Labour leader in 2010?

There isn’t a leader among them.

as things currently stand a huge part of why some will vote labour is to get the tories out. But a lot of people are politically homeless and may not vote at all or will vote for one of the minority parties.

And while a manifesto isn’t published until the election is called, the fact that labour criticise what the tories do without given any idea as to how they would do things differently

questioning what labour stand for doesn’t mean they’re a Tory supporter, not wanting to vote Tory doesn’t put labour above criticism.

Questioning what Labour stand for makes you someone who is unable to use Google...

Having lived through many a change of government I can assure you that whoever gets in nothing much will change in the life of the average person.

But people feel better about themselves if they bang a drum.

And while a manifesto isn’t published until the election is called, the fact that labour criticise what the tories do without given any idea as to how they would do things differently

Except they have. On their website.

In five years time people will be bemoaning labour. It’s an absolute certainty.

@HettieHampshire really? Because I remember life under Labour. I moved here in 1997. Things got much better quickly. The NHS improved. The minimum wage was brought in. Sure Start came in.

Anyone saying they're all the same is either lying, was asleep in a crystal coffin during the Labour years or has an agenda.

It won't be so easy this time, of course. The magnitude of the disaster that needs clearing up is vast. But at least Labour has different priorities.

@HettieHampshire I have also lived through many a change of government and couldn’t disagree more - education and services for families were infinitely better under Blair’s government than they are now. No comparison.

I’m so tired of this “nothing will change” bollocks. This last Tory government, especially since 2019, have been the most appalling bunch of lying, thieving, incompetent and corrupt wankers we have had the misfortune to be “governed” by. Johnson has done untold damage to politics in general by his atrocious premiership. We deserve better and Starmer is better - the idea that they’re the same as the bunch of bastards in power now is ridiculous.