I’m literally begging you - help

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wise Mnetters I’m literally begging you to help me decide my life.

would you take a job that paid 50k decent benefits but in the office 3 days a week. More senior position

or

one that paid 45k one day in the office, more jnr position, so a bit of a career back step.

after tax there is £150 a month in it (not factoring commuting costs)

I’ve had a bad experience with work lately and honestly I’m frozen decision wise

WFH doesn’t equal you’ll be available for school run,childcare You are supposed to be working from home, not nipping out to get kids and save after school costs

Seems like a no brainer to me, go with the 50k job. It’s more money, better pension, better bonus, shorter commute and a more senior position that you’re well capable of.

I recently took a promotion at work and it’s not hugely much more money but I think it’s a good role model for my kids especially as my husband earns much more than me. I want to show my kids that women can hold more senior roles too, and try to break the traditional gender norms.

The commute would be my deciding factor.

All else being equal - the more senior job. Likely more headroom with the salary going forward.
More challenge, less boredom (worry in a junior role).

Not sure if you’ve decided yet. If they were same salary same distance etc which job would u want? Then take that one. The other things will work themselves out or at least u will

@innerdesign ‘People like you are the problem with the WFH culture’

My Manager doesn’t have a problem. I’m paid to do a job - not to keep a seat warm.
I don’t get paid for all the additional hours I work when business needs dictate, I don’t get paid any ‘stand-by’ premium for ensuring I am contactable outside my ‘working hours’.

Flexibility works two ways. If you or anyone else has a problem with that, I suggest you return to the 1960’s and work in a typing pool, or maybe a factory with a big smoking chimney.

I dont' have time to read the full thread but as single parents in similar position - but older - I think you should definitely take the more senior £50K job. If you want to progress that is usually much easier if your colleagues get to know and value you from being together in the office with them in person.

You will be working for the next thirty years, front load your career as much as you can now as the climbing gets harder to do when you are older. if you gain a more senior role now, you get time to build on that (even if the full £5K extra goes on childcare to service that, it will be worth it several times over as an investment)

The first one

Excellent advice

Take the higher paid job. 90 minutes commute (on a good day) would be too much

I would choose 1 day in a second

What are the benefits? I'd take the one with the bigger pension contributions and try and do 20% myself. Very important. Otherwise the higher pay for the lower responsibility obviously. As you get promoted the pay will increase. Why take the same pay broadly for higher responsibility expectation and stress?

I'd take the more junior one. But I'm menopausal and barely functioning

I would take the 50K one, hitting the 50K mark is a big deal and will work in your favour for future career moves even if there's only £150 extra in your pocket. Three days a week at work is not bad and there is career progression. It's very difficult to recover from going backwards.

Your dh is flipflop & recommend the lower paid role? Probably as he doesn’t want any perceived change, he’s prioritising his needs not yours. He works away yes, but that doesn’t mean you’re left making all accommodations. If he’s getting promotion too then that goes into sorting childcare f supporting you

well if decision making is an integral part of either role - take the other job.

What didn't you like about the old job/what happened there? Is it likely to happen in either of the new roles?
What is your gut feel/empathy towards the people you met during the recruitment process.
Look at their accounts - which is more financially stable?
to what extent does the mission and vision of each organisation meet with your personal goals and ethics?
Which role do you think will be more interesting?
Do you prefer being office based or WFH - how long does the commute take?
Have you looked on glass door to see if their are any reviews? (similarly X and other social media - comments about them rather than their own posts)

So I get that understood as part of the negotiation that I will be doing 2 school runs, no ifs or buts and then if they say hard no, then that’s not the place for me.

the days mine don’t have club they have snacks and quiet time with a bit of tele for an hour or, reading or colouring or we drop them off at a friends on the estate

The overall contribution is the same by 1% but the personal contribution is less with the lower paid (meaning the employer pays more)

the stress will be the same I imagine, it’s more jnr but they waxed lyrically in the interview it’s a hard role, it’s the work of the job band above at the pay of the band below (lovely)

If you negotiated that from the off, fine, the employer agrees. My point was if it’s not negotiated no you can’t nip off to do school run in work time

You’re in a very fortuitous position to have been offered two jobs. See you accepted the higher pay role

nursery drop off is not feature of my working life. I cannot accommodate that and I don’t routinely undertake the nursery drop off. It’s really not a biggie to me. It’s certainly not a hard no

I would take the more senior role.

Do you need tax credits? 50k threshold etc? Otherwise based on you're previous answer it take the 50k and add the responsibility to your CV for a few yrs.
best of luck.

Not sure what they are?

dh earns 62/65k so we aren’t entitled to anything

Depends what your priority is really.

I personally quite like working from the office so if the commute is reasonable I wouldn’t have a problem with three days per week in the office.

On the other hand, I’m not at a point in life where I’m actively seeking more seniority at work. I recently chose to take a less senior job because I wanted less responsibility at work whilst my kids are young.

the stress will be the same I imagine, it’s more jnr but they waxed lyrically in the interview it’s a hard role, it’s the work of the job band above at the pay of the band below (lovely)

I’d usually lean towards the less senior role but this would be a hard no from me!

Forget the money etc...which job felt right for you, which one set you alight