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To be upset that my "friend" has told me off for getting a disabled person's railcard

328 replies

cottonwoolbrain · 19/02/2024 17:39

... because I'm not in a wheelchair and don't have trouble walking so I don't need one. Oh and apparently I've got a well paid job and she doesn't see why people should have to pay extra to subsidise me.

We went on a trip at the weekend and she saw me using the card and took the opportunity to lecture me - lots of other people on the train were clearly listening and taking it all in.

In fact as she very well knows I have epilepsy with grand mal seizures and absence seizures (effectively brief blackouts) and dyspraxia. Driving is simply not an option as there is a high chance of me killing myself or someone else. Taking the train, taxis, buses all the time is expensive and time consuming. After a seizure I'm usually quite disorientated and confused...

But according to her I should get off my arse and learn to drive

I didn't enjoy the trip and came home and cried... I thought about giving up the card but I've decided to give her up instead.. wish I could give up the epilepsy too Sad

OP posts:
Newestname002 · 20/02/2024 08:23

@cottonwoolbrain

I didn't enjoy the trip and came home and cried... I thought about giving up the card but I've decided to give her up instead.. wish I could give up the epilepsy too

What a nasty, jealous creature your ex-friend is, not only being ignorant but humiliating you in public as well. Nobody needs someone like this in their lives - glad you've given her the push. Now make sure you block her from every aspect of your life - block and delete. 🌹

vickibee · 20/02/2024 08:40

My son gets enhanced pip and is eligible for motability, this has triggered jealousy with folk saying he’s not deserving because he’s not disabled enough. ( whatever that means) He has asd and will not use public transport. He would rather walk than get on a bus.
I feel the same as you
I am certain every disabled person would give up their disability and not have these things.

Daffodilsandsunshine · 20/02/2024 08:45

Keep the card, ditch the "friend"!

I've a relative and a friend who both can't drive because of health issues and like you rely on trains and buses to get about (taxis are too expensive, driving isn't possible). Of course you should have a railcard!

SearchingForSolitude · 20/02/2024 08:50

daisypond · 20/02/2024 07:28

I live London and am not entitled to a freedom pass, though I am entitled to a disabled railcard. The criteria are completely different. I’m also not entitled to PIP. The criteria for that are different again.

You may not be eligible for a Freedom pass, but the OP would be if she can’t have a licence because of her medical conditions.

professorcunning · 20/02/2024 09:02

barkymcbark · 19/02/2024 22:07

She's an idiot

My Dad has a blue badge and drives a new Jag (his pride and joy), someone had a right go at him about it a few weeks ago, 'because people with a sports car shouldn't have a blue badge' Wtaf!

People are only ok with disabled people getting 'perks' if they're poor and miserable.

professorcunning · 20/02/2024 09:04

MorticiaSand · 19/02/2024 23:26

She is probably jealous that you get PIP payments that allow you to obtain a rail card. I had a man ranting at me in a car park two years ago over my blue badge, and not being disabled 'enough' to use those bays by the shop door. I asked him if he had a medical degree, and then gave him a full run down of my rather obvious disabilities. He felt like an idiot for being deflated from his crusade. As for your friend, you should feel slightly sorry for her to be honest. If she thinks someone with epilepsy is a candidate for a driving licence, she isn't very smart. There is lots of disabled hate that sadly exists, and you have to develop a thick skin when dealing with difficult people. If challenged, I usually invite that person to come and live a week in my body before passing judgement. That usually shuts them up.

My bil has started wearing shorts so people will see his prosthetic leg and leave him alone.

FrillyGoatFluff · 20/02/2024 09:30

Did you know you get discount for the person you're travelling with too? She'd have got a cut price ticket if she was travelling with you.

Bet she wouldn't have moaned about it then.

LadyKenya · 20/02/2024 09:36

Yes, I wondered if the "friend" accepted the discount, and still berated the OP. Maybe the OP will clarify whether that was the case.

xcski · 20/02/2024 12:23

You are absolutely entitled to that card.
Tell her to fuck off.
I'd have said that to her on the train to be honest and in a very loud voice explained that I had epilepsy and "How dare you speak to me about that and tell me I'm not entitled to use this card when you know fucking well that I have epilepsy and grand mal seizures"
Fucking bitch.
I hope you kick her sorry ass all the way to the moon.

Peccary · 20/02/2024 12:44

As someone who commutes by train and therefore"subsidises" you, please enjoy that rail card x

NeverDropYourMooncup · 20/02/2024 16:39

In case anybody isn't aware, by the way, freedom pass funding comes from things like surplus monies from parking revenue. So all those people who get a ticket from the council for parking like a numpty are paying for disabled and elderly people to travel.

Somepeoplearesnippy · 20/02/2024 16:51

I have age related hearing loss and wear hearing aids so I can participate in community life.

For some reason this entitles me to a Disabled Rail Pass. I'm not quite sure why because being deaf doesn't stop me driving or reading the train indicator signs and it certainly doesn't help me hear the garbled PA announcements any better! However iI'm happy to pay the £2O odd pounds a year it costs and enjoy the discounts I get.

One friend has made similar comments to yours, that I'm not "properly' disabled. Which I sort of agree with. With hearing aids I can function pretty well and could manage full priced train travel but being even partially deaf is a life limiting PITA and if it comes with one small perk I'm grabbing it.

LaughingCat · 20/02/2024 17:50

My other half has epilepsy and has a disabled railcard…it’s there to ensure he doesn’t have to drive which could be dangerous , which is exactly why you use it, too. It’s only a third off, not like getting free travel (and I can say that driving to Manchester and back costs me £12.50, whereas the same train journey costs me £38 - I know which I’d prefer!). Did she get the discount for being with you, as well?

PS: I hope she sees this thread and is absolutely mortified.

PPS: She sounds like the kind of person who would tut at me using a disabled loo because I look absolutely fine, but my dyspraxia makes changing levels between standing and sitting occasionally challenging and I have no desire to end up sat on a public loo floor on my bare arse. I despise those judgey people.

NoDought · 20/02/2024 17:54

What the hell? She sounds awful. Please don’t waste anymore time with her, she is not a friend. I am so sorry you have to live with an epilepsy diagnosis and you absolutely deserve the disabled rail card.

Ladybirdg1984 · 20/02/2024 18:06

Dumb friend, not travel card.

FreddieMercurysCat · 20/02/2024 18:08

Good god she’s a moron. Tell her to get to fuck and enjoy your card!

Bailey32 · 20/02/2024 18:08

@cottonwoolbrain I have a Disabled Persons Railcard for the same reason. I have Epilepsy and you should feel completely entitled to your Railcard. I’m glad you decided to ditch her. She doesn’t sound like a friend at all. Don’t look back! I hope you have good friends in your life who are kind and know your worth. It doesn’t sound like she deserved you at all xx

DisabledDemon · 20/02/2024 18:09

Some friend. You definitely do not need someone like this in your life - but before you part company, make sure she knows why she's being kicked to the kerb. She needs to know what she's done.

Whiskeylover86 · 20/02/2024 18:09

As someone with the same diagnosis (grandmal and absences) YANBU. I really feel for you about getting rid of the epilepsy, if I could do so I would in a heartbeat. Seizures also leave me confused and dazed and not knowing who I am let alone the date. Drop her, she's not a friend. A friend wouldn't make you feel bad about your epilepsy, nor shame you for your blue badge. Epilepsy is bloody awful, and she should try to give a level of empathy rather than judgment. I'm sorry your going through this, OP.

Packetofcrispsplease · 20/02/2024 18:11

My relative has a disabled rail card because she has autism and learning disabilities
she gets a discount for herself and a companion , needs it because she would need help with planning an unfamiliar journey or need help if something went wrong during the journey

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 20/02/2024 18:20

Epilepsy means eligibility for a railcard. Honestly we are going backwards as a society. Ditch your friend after waving the terms in the face.

ItcanbeDone · 20/02/2024 18:22

Husband has MS, he needs one, he uses one, he also drives, some days are harder than others, sod your ex-friend, shes a twat.

IAmAnIdiot123 · 20/02/2024 18:25

I don't know what the railcard gives you but I encourage everyone to claim everything they are entitled to. It's a use it or lose it sort of thing. If people stop claiming train cards, they will stop bothering to offer them.

Your mates a twat.

PeachyPeachTrees · 20/02/2024 18:47

Why are there still people who think a person is only disabled if they need a wheelchair? There are so many hidden disabilities and you clearly need this card. I'm glad you've decided to ditch her.

Juni11 · 20/02/2024 18:52

Your friend is ignorant. What did she hope to achieve by lecturing you about something you are very rightly entitled to other than to upset you and make herself look Ill informed. I’m sure anyone listening in on the conversation would have been judging her more than you. 💐