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Random man moved my beach bag and towel from my sun lounger and chucked them on another one behind

375 replies

Winter3000 · 17/02/2024 07:21

I'm on holidays.
I arrived at the little beach early for a swim.
There are free sun loungers there for everyone to use, plenty were free.

I put my bag and towel (scrunched up)on a free sun lounger at the front, closest to the water, lay there for a bit and then went for a swim. The water is very close by.
While I was in the water, I saw a young woman, a middle aged woman and a middle aged man arrive by my sun lounger.
The 2 women lay down on two empty sun loungers next to mine.
The man hovered around for a bit, he was standing there beside my sun lounger, looked around and then chucked my bag and towel on to a different sun lounger behind mine. He made to put his stuff on my sun lounger.
I saw it all.
I got out of the water went up to him and gave him a piece of my mind. Loudly. People started looking. He denied it but I told him I was watching him.
He looked embarrassed.
The younger woman said something, don't know what but it wasn't 'sorry', and I told her not to make excuses for him.
They all looked mortified.
A girl on her own nearby looked over approvingly.

OP posts:
Universalsnail · 17/02/2024 10:13

Tbh you weren't using the sun longer and he moved your stuff a different available sun longer. I don't agree with the whole reserving the best sun loungers if you are not using one tbh. I think you over reacted yelling at him.

Brefugee · 17/02/2024 10:17

Lampslights · 17/02/2024 10:03

Are you equally impressed when a man gets up in a woman’s face and shouts.

it is shitty behaviour, we don't like it when they do it. So why stoop so low when you could just say "i was using that sun lounger, i'd like it back please"

I have no issue with people being assertive. But hands on hips, in his face shouting? meh. a lack of class and not appropriate to this situation.

If we're speaking Russian though what would be approximately "shto" but i don't think I've ever heard it used like that. It usually comes with something else "shto eta?" or something.

sorry, i might use something that sounds like "izvinite pajalsta" (can't transliterate well) but my experience of actual real live Russians is the first exclamation on meeting a scene you don't like/understand is "fuck your mother!"

betterangels · 17/02/2024 10:17

No point in yelling was there?

Emiliasmummy · 17/02/2024 10:28

My first thought was the man saw your stuff scrunched up( your words) on the lounger and assumed they dumped there whilst owner of items went swimming not necessarily wanted lounger. Not an excuse to move them in my opinion but not an excuse for shouting and getting in his face. There are better ways to handle it. If it was my husband you were shouting at I would not be saying sorry either. This is not something to be proud about.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 17/02/2024 10:30

Universalsnail · 17/02/2024 10:13

Tbh you weren't using the sun longer and he moved your stuff a different available sun longer. I don't agree with the whole reserving the best sun loungers if you are not using one tbh. I think you over reacted yelling at him.

I'm fairness if it's the beach and you are swimming early doors and by yourself the front lounger is often best from a perspective of watching your stuff

Goldenbear · 17/02/2024 10:34

unloquacious · 17/02/2024 10:05

This. I’m not from the UK but if we hear someone shouting at people or their own kids abroad you know without looking they are Brits. 😂

The OP is not a Brit!

Brumbies · 17/02/2024 10:34

EchoFallz · 17/02/2024 07:29

I’m on his side

Really, when she was swimming in the pool? I can understand it if she'd give off for the day but swimming???

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 17/02/2024 10:35

shielder · 17/02/2024 10:03

I never said it wasn't uncouth, I said chucking someone's bag is uncouth. And I said speaking loudly is not necessarily shouting.

Assertiveness, being firm and polite are options too. I haven't said anything to the contrary.

I just don't get the point you made that's it's uncouth to talk to him loudly in front of his wife and daughter? Surely they witnessed him move the stuff in the first place? If my dad acted like a dick, I wouldn't be shocked if someone pulled him up on it 🤷🏻‍♀️

My point is her behaving the way she did doesn't make her come out any better.

Not sure what you're not understanding.
He could have been on his own and her behaviour would still be uncouth.

Although, a reaction from those around seems to be have been satisfying to OP, especially the look of approval.

Both uncouth.

Both could have handled it better.

Just because he did it first doesn't mean she had to too.

Are you saying she was uncouth but right?

Maray1967 · 17/02/2024 10:36

mamacorn1 · 17/02/2024 07:42

yanbu . He was being a moron. You simply don’t do that to someone else’s things. I can’t believe anyone on here can excuse that. Shouting at him might be a big over the top, but I would certainly have called him an idiot and embarrassed him.

Same here. I would have insisted he move. Bloody cheek of him.

DaBlackCatsAreDaBestCats · 17/02/2024 10:38

QueenMegan · 17/02/2024 09:59

I'm impressed you shouted with your hands on hips. Do you think he had a clue what you said?
Did you have to lie next to the women. Did he have to lie behind.
You.

Edited

Yeh. Was she then lying there with the two strange women?? Bizarre

LuluBlakey1 · 17/02/2024 10:40

Winter3000 · 17/02/2024 07:21

I'm on holidays.
I arrived at the little beach early for a swim.
There are free sun loungers there for everyone to use, plenty were free.

I put my bag and towel (scrunched up)on a free sun lounger at the front, closest to the water, lay there for a bit and then went for a swim. The water is very close by.
While I was in the water, I saw a young woman, a middle aged woman and a middle aged man arrive by my sun lounger.
The 2 women lay down on two empty sun loungers next to mine.
The man hovered around for a bit, he was standing there beside my sun lounger, looked around and then chucked my bag and towel on to a different sun lounger behind mine. He made to put his stuff on my sun lounger.
I saw it all.
I got out of the water went up to him and gave him a piece of my mind. Loudly. People started looking. He denied it but I told him I was watching him.
He looked embarrassed.
The younger woman said something, don't know what but it wasn't 'sorry', and I told her not to make excuses for him.
They all looked mortified.
A girl on her own nearby looked over approvingly.

And? What's your point?

Flamme · 17/02/2024 10:44

Winter3000 · 17/02/2024 07:29

Yes he did.

I was pretty loud.
I was standing there with my hands on my hips, right up in his face.

Why? You could just as easily have been firm whilst being polite, and kept some dignity into the bargain.

Lampslights · 17/02/2024 10:50

shielder · 17/02/2024 10:06

What do you mean his level? He moved her stuff. That’s it.

Don't you think it's a tad confrontational for someone to chuck someone else's personal belongings?

He out then on another lounger, plenty of people hog sun beds and fuck off for hours, I am sure you know this too. Unless you live under a rock. So no. I don’t.

Quizine · 17/02/2024 10:50

If I were in a similar position, I'd like to think I'd challenge him, but I'm not sure I'd have the confidence with everyone around me looking at the free entertainment! So for that reason I admire the OP.

On the other hand, I cannot think of anything worse than a sunbed on the beach surrounded by others like sardines, or around a pool either. Just me and my shyness and dislike of the "scene" I suppose.

Give me a nice shaded private balcony or patio any day.

Imfreetofeelgood · 17/02/2024 10:54

YWBVU to shout in his face. You could of let him know politely, that you had only been swimming, and given him the chance to apologise. He obviously thought you had tried to reserve a bed - having, as you say, looked around the beach for you, before acting. You were aggressive for no reason.

Weekenders · 17/02/2024 10:58

No one comes out of this looking great, but I wouldn't let a minor incident spoil your day.

FrederickTrottersville · 17/02/2024 11:04

Brit shouting at Russian by the pool. Probably both wearing an AI wristband. Classy holiday 🤣

Fishbones1 · 17/02/2024 11:15

Oh no, I’m cringing for you - all the hands on hips/aggressive in-your-face shouting. He was wrong to do what he did but you haven’t dealt with it well - just a polite “excuse me, could you put my belongings back please,” and then move your things back to your lounger without all the embarrassing drama.

You sound like an angry toddler who can’t control their emotions and deal with things like an adult 😳

Tilleuil · 17/02/2024 11:17

FrederickTrottersville · 17/02/2024 11:04

Brit shouting at Russian by the pool. Probably both wearing an AI wristband. Classy holiday 🤣

Op is not a Brit. Try reading the thread.

Cotonsugar · 17/02/2024 11:21

Neriah · 17/02/2024 07:34

Personally, I am fed up to the back teeth of people who reserve their sunlounger but are still in bed for bloody hours or even most of the day. He had no way of knowing you weren't one of them. But you got out of the water, marched up to him and started laying into him LOUDLY straight away. Did the polite approach FIRST not occur to you?

So basically you loudly and verbally attacked a bunch of people, accused a woman of making exuses even though you had no idea what she was saying, and totally bypassed any manners in the first place.

You sound no better than you accuse them of being, and probably worse.

This. Politeness before aggression.

Fairyliz · 17/02/2024 11:25

I’m with you op. I’m fed up with being the one who has to behave reasonably when other people act like arseholes.
He knew it was someone else’s sunbed but thought he was entitled to use it because he wanted to.
He’s a twat why should you just politely ask him to put your stuff back; he would probably have pretended not to understand you.

Chonk · 17/02/2024 11:38

Winter3000 · 17/02/2024 07:29

Yes he did.

I was pretty loud.
I was standing there with my hands on my hips, right up in his face.

You obviously think this makes you sound like a strong, empowered woman, but it's actually really cringeworthy. You should be able to get your point across without the dramatics.

UpendedPineapple · 17/02/2024 11:41

Bloody good for you!

All the dickheads saying you were the aggressor 🙄 is why Mumsnet is so wanky these days.

taxguru · 17/02/2024 11:44

Tanger1neDream · 17/02/2024 09:11

Does it matter, there were other loungers available, you weren’t using it and don’t own it.

I don’t get this hogging loungers all day thing even when you’re not there.

So why didn't the entitled arse who moved her stuff just use a different lounger then?

positivesliceofpie · 17/02/2024 11:49

If you were acting like that hands on hips and shouting in my face like little miss no it you id have been in cuffs and you needing first aid.
And i wouldent have cared.