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To have said I wasn't going to feed them?

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chucklechucky · 14/02/2024 17:17

This happened last weekend but only had chance to post.

Last Saturday I ended up looking after DSS 11 by myself when DH had to work overtime. We also have a 3 year old together.

DSS had asked for a friend to sleep over which to be honest I wasn't keen on as I was by myself and could have done without another child in the house when DH wasnt there but I reluctantly agreed after a bit of guilt tripping!

I did say to DH though that if DSS's friend was staying then he would have to have tea at his own home first and come after that as I didn't want to have to feed him as well (the friend). We didn't have any pizzas to chuck in unless I dragged a 3 year old to the shop for one and what I'd planned to cook was more of a sit at the table kind of meal which I didn't want to have to do with DSS's friend, who I've never met.

Dh seemed a bit put out by this and was making comments like "you wouldn't say that if it was DC3s friend when they are older".

We ended up getting into a little bit of an argument and I basically said he either eats before he comes or he doesn't come. Dh did end up speaking to DSS who asked his friend to have tea first. Friend did so, came over, and they were fine (if not a little loud and had to be told a few times to keep it down once it was late).

Things with me and DH were tense the next day.

Was I being unreasonable? I felt I was doing DH a favour as it was, and then another on top having DSS's friend over when he wasn't there and I just cba cooking tea for another person on top of that too and having to have a sit down meal with a random 11 year old I didn't know.

I don't see how it's a big deal to just simply ask a friend to have tea before coming over. Aibu?

OP posts:
Clarabell77 · 15/02/2024 07:31

chucklechucky · 14/02/2024 18:46

I guess I find the whole "you wouldn't do it if it were your child" argument a bit disingenuous. Because it is different. In the sense that I'd have felt able to say no without being shamed in the first place if it were my child, I'd have perhaps organised it in advance and made sure I had something better in and if, heaven forbid, I did ask that my child's friend had dinner before staying, I'd have been able to do that without getting it in the neck.

I do feel like when DH says this what he actually means is "do whatever I want you to do for my child and don't have an opinion on it otherwise I'll say you must hate him".

PPs have suggested it's a wider issue of me not treating DSS like I do our DC, and that is probably correct. But I do feel over the years I have been unable to do that as DH will never accept or listen to any criticism or opinion that isn't 100% positive. It seems I'm only able or expected to treat DSS as my own when it's something DH or DSS wants, anything else and it's not my business or I'm just being horrid because he's not mine.

And honestly, I just really don't see the huge issue with asking for a last minute sleepover guest to have some tea before coming. I genuinely don't feel I'd think twice about that when my child is older if it were asked of them.

In my mind it was a compromise. I didn't feel like hosting that night, DH knew that but I'd been peppered into agreeing DSS having a friend over and my only request was that he just have some dinner beforehand then. I didn't think it was that big of an issue (and still don't really understand the fuss tbh).

As PP said, if it was such an issue maybe DH could have paid for a takeaway for them but surprisingly he didn't offer to do that.

DH will never accept or listen to any criticism or opinion that isn't 100% positive. It seems I'm only able or expected to treat DSS as my own when it's something DH or DSS wants, anything else and it's not my business or I'm just being horrid because he's not mine.

I’ve got two DSCs, now grown up, and criticise them to their dad is something I would never, ever have done - even when they went through a difficult spell as teenagers and some slightly nasty and untrue things were said about me - I understood where it had come from (a situation with their mum) and was supportive. They did not ask to be part of a blended family and I saw it as my job to make sure they felt loved and valued as members of our family. I actually enjoyed not having to worry about being the one to have to discipline or do the serious side of parenting with them. I’m glad for the child that your DH doesn’t listen to anything negative about them from you. It’s not your place and he’s being protective of his child.

JacksonLambsEatIvy · 15/02/2024 07:38

Clarabell77 · 15/02/2024 07:31

DH will never accept or listen to any criticism or opinion that isn't 100% positive. It seems I'm only able or expected to treat DSS as my own when it's something DH or DSS wants, anything else and it's not my business or I'm just being horrid because he's not mine.

I’ve got two DSCs, now grown up, and criticise them to their dad is something I would never, ever have done - even when they went through a difficult spell as teenagers and some slightly nasty and untrue things were said about me - I understood where it had come from (a situation with their mum) and was supportive. They did not ask to be part of a blended family and I saw it as my job to make sure they felt loved and valued as members of our family. I actually enjoyed not having to worry about being the one to have to discipline or do the serious side of parenting with them. I’m glad for the child that your DH doesn’t listen to anything negative about them from you. It’s not your place and he’s being protective of his child.

If we needed clearer evidence that, for all the rhetoric about how women must treat the SC like they are their own (and put themselves out at all times acting as nanny for their DH/P and his ex), no one actually believes they should treat them as their own.

Never being able to criticise the behaviour of his children? It’s not your place to have any opinion on this. Urgh.

The major problem in blended families is the parent of the SC in so many cases. And that so many people think it’s absolutely fine for parents to treat new partners like this.

@chucklechucky It’s pretty obvious that this isn’t about the dinner. You didn’t want to have to host a sleepover but were guilted into it. Your DH should have arranged it for when he’s not working.

Dundundun10 · 15/02/2024 07:42

Clarabell77 · 15/02/2024 07:31

DH will never accept or listen to any criticism or opinion that isn't 100% positive. It seems I'm only able or expected to treat DSS as my own when it's something DH or DSS wants, anything else and it's not my business or I'm just being horrid because he's not mine.

I’ve got two DSCs, now grown up, and criticise them to their dad is something I would never, ever have done - even when they went through a difficult spell as teenagers and some slightly nasty and untrue things were said about me - I understood where it had come from (a situation with their mum) and was supportive. They did not ask to be part of a blended family and I saw it as my job to make sure they felt loved and valued as members of our family. I actually enjoyed not having to worry about being the one to have to discipline or do the serious side of parenting with them. I’m glad for the child that your DH doesn’t listen to anything negative about them from you. It’s not your place and he’s being protective of his child.

Then you don't get to expect a atep parent to parent then if they aren't allowed to discipline or put their own boundaries in place when they are the ones left to look after the children.

It's so hypocritical to expect someone to treat your DC "like their own" but not actually like their own because what you mean is "only for the good stuff".

So OP can never complain about anything a teen may do? Never say DSS has been peeing on the toilet seat can you speak to him please? DSS has started being a bit disrespectful or whatever else the gripe may be?

Expecting your partner who lives with you to never say anything slightly critical or negative about your child is not expecting them to treat your DC like their own.

You want someone to treat your kids like their own that includes everything. The good stuff, the bad stuff, the moaning, the discussing of bad behaviour etc etc. You don't get to have it both ways.

Dundundun10 · 15/02/2024 07:45

Oh and just accepting when the other parent doesn't want to do something like a sleepover when you're not even there. Instead of having the audacity of expecting them to look after the DC by themselves and have no say over what happens whilst they do.

If the DH wants things done exactly how he wants them done then he can come home and do them. Or, he can do what every other parent does and let the parent in charge when he's not there say yes or no to these things.

ImCamembertTheBigCheese · 15/02/2024 07:46

TheDuck2018 · 14/02/2024 17:21

Pretty crappy behaviour on your part, unless your intention was to make your dss feel uncomfortable; if you did then well done, you succeeded!

Agree. Next time be firm in your 'no' rather than being passive aggressive and not feeding a child.

Usernamechange1234 · 15/02/2024 07:48

Entirely with your husband here. What were you thinking? I agree it sounds like scoring points on the back of children. Grim.

Dundundun10 · 15/02/2024 07:49

Let's be honest OP would never have been badgered into agreeing to the sleepover in the first place if the child wasn't a step child and was her own. The DH would have just left it to OP to deal with.

This whole situation arose precisely because DH doesn't want or let her treat the son like her own (which includes being free to say no!)

And I'm still yet to hear a valid reason why asking the friend to come over after tea time is the worst thing in the world to be honest or why it will result in both children becoming a strain on MH services in the future.

Dundundun10 · 15/02/2024 07:55

Usernamechange1234 · 15/02/2024 07:48

Entirely with your husband here. What were you thinking? I agree it sounds like scoring points on the back of children. Grim.

You're entirely with the husband. So you think it's okay to badger your wife into agreeing to something she doesn't want to do when you're not there?

Ew.

123sunshine · 15/02/2024 08:00

it was petty and unkind. Could you have not just ordered a take out pizza, or just had dinner with the kid? I can’t ever imagine a scenario where I would have asked kid to feed themselves before coming over. A bit of flexibility is needed with kids. I haven’t read all the responses, but I can guarantee if it was child not stepchild you wouldn’t have done this.

Usernamechange1234 · 15/02/2024 08:03

@Dundundun10 From what I read it in the first post it was the step son who invited his friend over and the husband pointed out that she should feed him. Which I agree with.

FWIW I think if you have decided to marry someone with children you need to treat them as if it is their home and work with that. Including welcoming their friends. I have no idea why an extra child was so hard, I’ve always found it easier when they have a friend to entertain them.

Her second post (when the vote didn’t go her way) suddenly started claiming the husband pressured her, that is not in the first post.

Pretty typical hyperbole on mn.

JacksonLambsEatIvy · 15/02/2024 08:06

123sunshine · 15/02/2024 08:00

it was petty and unkind. Could you have not just ordered a take out pizza, or just had dinner with the kid? I can’t ever imagine a scenario where I would have asked kid to feed themselves before coming over. A bit of flexibility is needed with kids. I haven’t read all the responses, but I can guarantee if it was child not stepchild you wouldn’t have done this.

That it’s a stepchild - who the OP is expected to be constantly positive about and always convenient to her partner - makes all the difference.

The having to sort dinner was the straw that broke the camel’s back here - the OP was nagged and guilted into doing a sleepover while the child’s father wasn’t there. At short notice presumably, as otherwise there’d be frozen pizza in the freezer ready for it.

When it’s your own child, you just say no to inconvenient sleepovers. But it’s a SC so she’s not been allowed to say no and is expected to get on with it and absolutely never complain.

Illpickthatup · 15/02/2024 08:06

Differentstarts · 14/02/2024 22:20

It's not just about op it's about other women on this thread who don't see why they should do anything for their stepchildren and only have an interest in their biological children. Could you imagine being a child growing up in an environment like that

Are you a stepmum? Have you been in the SMs you're slating situation? Poured your heart and soul into stepkids only to have it thrown back in your face. Used as a babysitter but your opinion doesn't count in your own home. Being spoken to like shit by stepkids and their father does nothing because he doesn't want to upset the kids. Having your plans cancelled because the ex's plans are more important and dad plays the "my kids come first" card. Having your bio kids question why they can't stay up to all hours because dad refuses to set a bedtime for the stepkids. Constantly feeling like everything you say or do is twisted and reported back to the kids mum.

Maybe walk in the shoes of some of the SMs who deal with this bullshit on the daily then come back and tell everyone about how welcoming you are, how you love your SKs like you're own and of course they can have friends over anytime.

AnneLovesGilbert · 15/02/2024 08:07

Clarabell77 · 15/02/2024 07:31

DH will never accept or listen to any criticism or opinion that isn't 100% positive. It seems I'm only able or expected to treat DSS as my own when it's something DH or DSS wants, anything else and it's not my business or I'm just being horrid because he's not mine.

I’ve got two DSCs, now grown up, and criticise them to their dad is something I would never, ever have done - even when they went through a difficult spell as teenagers and some slightly nasty and untrue things were said about me - I understood where it had come from (a situation with their mum) and was supportive. They did not ask to be part of a blended family and I saw it as my job to make sure they felt loved and valued as members of our family. I actually enjoyed not having to worry about being the one to have to discipline or do the serious side of parenting with them. I’m glad for the child that your DH doesn’t listen to anything negative about them from you. It’s not your place and he’s being protective of his child.

This isn’t making the point you think it is. Would you like a medal for admitting you were insecure in your position as a step mum, a wife and a person in the home with a mind of her own and the right to opinions?

By all means be a doormat and let people tell lies about you but don’t drag other women down with you. And definitely don’t pretend you were treating them like your own.

I’m sorry your husband didn’t respect you but it’s not OP’s problem.

Dundundun10 · 15/02/2024 08:07

Usernamechange1234 · 15/02/2024 08:03

@Dundundun10 From what I read it in the first post it was the step son who invited his friend over and the husband pointed out that she should feed him. Which I agree with.

FWIW I think if you have decided to marry someone with children you need to treat them as if it is their home and work with that. Including welcoming their friends. I have no idea why an extra child was so hard, I’ve always found it easier when they have a friend to entertain them.

Her second post (when the vote didn’t go her way) suddenly started claiming the husband pressured her, that is not in the first post.

Pretty typical hyperbole on mn.

Edited

She never clarified who the guilt tripping came from in the OP, just that she'd been guilt tripped. And then in the second post confirmed it was her husband and he already knew she didn't want to do the sleepover in the first place.

I don't think we can assume OPs are lying simply because they clarify things in a later post that dont fit your opinion.

JSMill · 15/02/2024 08:09

Goodness it takes very little effort to look after two 11 yo and one dc3. You clearly don't regard your home as your dss's home but it is. If you get together with someone with dcs, you need to accept it's their home too. You could have popped to the shops to get a pizza. I don't blame your dp for being annoyed with you. I think you have been selfish and unkind to your dss.

Dundundun10 · 15/02/2024 08:10

JSMill · 15/02/2024 08:09

Goodness it takes very little effort to look after two 11 yo and one dc3. You clearly don't regard your home as your dss's home but it is. If you get together with someone with dcs, you need to accept it's their home too. You could have popped to the shops to get a pizza. I don't blame your dp for being annoyed with you. I think you have been selfish and unkind to your dss.

Providing he accepts that if he's going to work when his child is there then what OP says goes? Oh wait...

Dundundun10 · 15/02/2024 08:11

And definitely don’t pretend you were treating them like your own

It's laughable.

I treated them like my own, I just never complained about ANYTHING they did or my husband would be mad at me.

Usernamechange1234 · 15/02/2024 08:11

@Dundundun10 I’m not assuming she’s lying, I’m assuming she’s exaggerating to turn the thread around which is pretty typical of mn.

Dundundun10 · 15/02/2024 08:12

Usernamechange1234 · 15/02/2024 08:11

@Dundundun10 I’m not assuming she’s lying, I’m assuming she’s exaggerating to turn the thread around which is pretty typical of mn.

Which I'm assuming you wouldn't do if the update had been to your liking or fitted with your opinion? Which is typical of MN.

JacksonLambsEatIvy · 15/02/2024 08:13

FWIW I think if you have decided to marry someone with children you need to treat them as if it is their home and work with that. Including welcoming their friends.

Do your children just decide they’re having a sleepover - or do you actually get a say in this as their parent?

For some reason people seem to think that SM’s marriage vows say ‘and I will be a doormat who simply accommodates you and your children’s every whim and gets no say in anything at all.

I regularly tell my DS that he can’t have a bloody sleepover. This is his home. Yes. He’s always welcome here. But a gaggle of teenage boys overnight is a pain in the arse.

Somehow because the OP is a SM she’s not allowed to just say no to this stuff. It’s depressing. Even more so when the child’s parent isn’t even there.

Usernamechange1234 · 15/02/2024 08:15

Dundundun10 · 15/02/2024 08:12

Which I'm assuming you wouldn't do if the update had been to your liking or fitted with your opinion? Which is typical of MN.

Edited

What are you wittering on about. You’re way too invested in this thread, shouting down any poster who disagrees, it’s odd.

Crack on, I’m off this one.

HRTQueen · 15/02/2024 08:19

Yes yabu

you are annoyed with your dh and taking it out on your dss and his friend

Dundundun10 · 15/02/2024 08:20

There's been plenty of posters on the other side who've been over invested in the thread too so I'm good.

I can't stand how hypocritical posters are about this subject. It's glaringly obvious to anyone who bothers to actually look. And how on every other subject on MN men's behaviour doesn't go unchecked, except when it's a blended family and then no one comments and are "in total agreement" with arseholey men.

Katbum · 15/02/2024 08:21

UtterlyButterly2048 · 15/02/2024 05:35

@Katbum you have a lot to say about being a “step mum” but you have, very clearly, never been a step child. My spineless fuckwit of a father married a woman who thought like you. Not totally like you, I don’t think she went into it thinking it would be lovely, I think she went into it working out how to get rid of us in the most efficient way possible. She showed us, very clearly that is was HER home, not ours, and that her children took total priority. As a child, it was simply awful.
And yes, when it comes down to it, it is my dads fault for marrying such an unpleasant person, but I do sometimes still wonder how on earth she could have been so utterly unkind to any child, never mind those that are supposed to be family, even if it is only by marriage?
Having experienced that myself (I have been NC with them for years) I took the absolute opposite approach with my own step daughter. I was very aware that in fact, my home WAS her home and I made that fact clear. She’s an adult now and we all have a very strong relationship. Your step child will not be a child forever. And you are right, children are not thick, she will never forget how you treated her.

I’m not mean to her. So please don’t project. I just don’t think of her as my child. I’m sorry your stepmother was mean. I am friendly and have fun with my SD, I just don’t do the heavy lifting.

UtterlyButterly2048 · 15/02/2024 08:24

@Illpickthatup have you ever been a step child? Had a step mum who makes it clear that it’s her home and not yours? Been shown on every visit that you are in no way as important as the other children? No? Perhaps YOU need to walk in those shoes before you advise anyone else.

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