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MIL wants to attend funeral but is supposed to be my childcare

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tinatsarina · 14/02/2024 08:32

So my MIL has the kids for me next Monday while I have 3 job interviews that afternoon. she's now told me she has to attend her sister in laws, brothers funeral. My parents both work so can't cover my childcare (half-term here). Told my partner to tell his mum she can't go but he said she's entitled to and people don't owe me anything. He's now potentially taking the day off even though she had already agreed to the childcare first AIBU to be annoyed that they are prioritising this funeral over the childcare?

OP posts:
TiredMummma · 14/02/2024 23:19

Pay for it??

puzzledout · 14/02/2024 23:20

LadyBird1973 · 14/02/2024 23:18

"Are you on glue?" Yawn @DriftingDora

I don't think that everyone should think like me. But I do think people should honour their commitments, particularly if it was their idea in the first place.

And that commitment means that a person having the same cheek to die should be ignored GrinGrinGrin

I go to work, I commit to everyday 9-5, sometimes I can't do that because

Funerals
Sickness
Appointments medical I can't change

Etc etc..

It's an unpaid job not a vocation..

Sparsely · 14/02/2024 23:22

It really helps the grieving to have a good turnout and feel the love. So it's not just for people who are really close. It's for anyone who cares. Which your MiL obviously does.

DriftingDora · 14/02/2024 23:22

LadyBird1973 · 14/02/2024 23:13

'Warped' is a bit rude. Not all people think that funerals are a good thing or appropriate for anyone other than people who were close to the deceased.

It doesn't matter a tenpenny toss what other people think. A funeral is a private matter, and the family of the deceased are entitled to invite who they want. And that person can either accept or decline to attend - their choice. There's no 'criteria' or rulebook that has to be applied, and the opinion of others is completely immaterial.

AcrossthePond55 · 14/02/2024 23:23

CrazyHedgehogLover · 14/02/2024 19:41

@AcrossthePond55 seriously? A “serious sit down talk with her” umm no, they should find alternative childcare arrangements and be grateful for the help she offers!!

her partners work physically can’t refuse for him to have the day off if he’s actually said he hasn’t got anyone at home to look after the children… OP is actually being ridiculous.. not to mention rude and entitled.

The MiL has encouraged OP to return to work and said she wanted to do the childcare to help facilitate that. That being so, they need to be sure they're on the same page as far as being dependable. Yes, it's a privilege to have a relative do your childcare, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't be dependable. My MiL cared for DS2 as an infant and she was 100% committed to being there for us. If she hadn't been, we would have found paid care.

What I'm saying is that they need to be on the same page, and a serious discussion should find that out. By a 'serious discussion' I'm not saying to call her on the carpet or lecture her, just to get to the bottom of what MiL feels is 'providing childcare'. Does she understand that working parents need reliable childcare that they can depend on day in and day out, not one who cancels late in the day or is unwilling to forego another event or activity because they need to care for the child? If MiL doesn't want to commit to putting the childcare duty first, then yes, OP and her DH need to find alternative care.

puzzledout · 14/02/2024 23:29

@AcrossthePond55 the onus is on the parents to get reliable childcare, OP is unhappy yet applying for a permanent position without adequate childcare, why?

DriftingDora · 14/02/2024 23:29

LadyBird1973 · 14/02/2024 23:18

"Are you on glue?" Yawn @DriftingDora

I don't think that everyone should think like me. But I do think people should honour their commitments, particularly if it was their idea in the first place.

Yeah, right, naughty MiL, daring to have a life of her own. Yawn. 😂

LadyBird1973 · 14/02/2024 23:33

I do actually think it would be better to have paid childcare. It is a big restriction on grandparents, if they aren't fully committed and want to do other things besides looking after dc. And I think for parents, to have free childcare that's unreliable, does more harm than good.
And free rarely means free anyway - parents usually end up paying for it in other ways. With a childminder or nursery, everyone knows where they stand, grandparents can enjoy just being grandparents and parents don't have to navigate the difficulties of childcare that's a favour.

RadFs · 14/02/2024 23:34

Of course you’re being unreasonable. You seem entitled. It’s a funeral for goodness sake.

LadyBird1973 · 14/02/2024 23:36

@DriftingDora you are missing that the grandmother offered. This was her idea!
Of course gps should have lives of their own. But you can't offer to be childcare, encourage the parents to rely on you, then not do what you agreed.
Fine not to do it, but don't promise and then let them down.

AcrossthePond55 · 14/02/2024 23:38

puzzledout · 14/02/2024 23:29

@AcrossthePond55 the onus is on the parents to get reliable childcare, OP is unhappy yet applying for a permanent position without adequate childcare, why?

"I only went back as MIL suggested to us she would do childcare. I have looked at alternatives but nurseries and after schools are all full ATM if she hadn't agreed childcare I wouldn't have took my current position."

Presumably because MiL said she'd do it and it appears that right now there is no alternative. Again, this is why they need to have a meeting of the minds. And it may very well turn out that MiL would be so UNreliable that OP can't take the job.

Maybe MiL didn't understand how much childcare would tie her down. Maybe OP and her DH didn't understand what was in MiL's mind when she said she'd do it. But if I were OP I'd first want to make sure that MiL was unreliable before I shit canned any job.

puzzledout · 14/02/2024 23:38

LadyBird1973 · 14/02/2024 23:33

I do actually think it would be better to have paid childcare. It is a big restriction on grandparents, if they aren't fully committed and want to do other things besides looking after dc. And I think for parents, to have free childcare that's unreliable, does more harm than good.
And free rarely means free anyway - parents usually end up paying for it in other ways. With a childminder or nursery, everyone knows where they stand, grandparents can enjoy just being grandparents and parents don't have to navigate the difficulties of childcare that's a favour.

But poor OP no other availability for nurseries (why would you need a nursery for school age children?) or after school clubs...... nothing in her area

So, no point in going to the interviews, so problem solved until OP can arrange adequate childcare that she's happy with and then she can get a job.

Or she job shares with her partner.

But all this because MIL wants to attend a funeral or take a weeks trip seems a little hasty....

puzzledout · 14/02/2024 23:40

@AcrossthePond55 I've read that, so as I said if OP is not happy why is she applying for a permanent position without adequate childcare?

Give it up, go bs k to being a SAHM, she only did it because MIL said whatever, so nothing ventured, nothing gained.

AcrossthePond55 · 14/02/2024 23:47

puzzledout · 14/02/2024 23:40

@AcrossthePond55 I've read that, so as I said if OP is not happy why is she applying for a permanent position without adequate childcare?

Give it up, go bs k to being a SAHM, she only did it because MIL said whatever, so nothing ventured, nothing gained.

I think OP thought she did have reliable childcare, the MiL. As of right now, I kind of think it's still an unknown. MiL was apparently 'unreliable' in this one situation, the funeral. But that doesn't mean she would continue to be unreliable if she understood how important reliable childcare is. Or 'contrariwise', MiL may say "Nope, not signing up for that!".

It's an unknown as to why OP is returning to work. Maybe they're in need of the extra money. Maybe she just wants to get out of the house. If it's the former it's certainly worth talking to MiL, if it's the latter then maybe now is not the right time for OP to return to work.

donteatthedaisies0 · 14/02/2024 23:49

This can't be real surely OP they're your children , your life , deal with it . You had them not your MIL .

puzzledout · 14/02/2024 23:55

@AcrossthePond55 maybe read all the OPs posts, only nine of them. You'll then be fully versed on the fact OP isn't happy. She also states that's MIL is doing it to sabotage her job, not her DHs.

So don't go for a permanent position, before she's happy with childcare, simple.

Calliopespa · 14/02/2024 23:56

quietlysad · 14/02/2024 22:40

OP I think people are being very harsh on you here. If she hasn’t seen the person in years and committed to looking after the kids so you can attend interviews I think it’s really unkind of her to change plans now. It’s hard being a parent, especially a mum. Many people have support to call on but some don’t and it sounds like you fall into the latter category. It’s really really hard to be in that position, everyone needs help sometimes. Shame fellow mums can’t empathise with your predicament as I’m sure we’ve all been there at some point. Sending hugs and wishing people weren’t so judgmental xx

She can use a babysitting company. Lots of people have to do this when childcare falls through. That’s how the businesses exist. You ring them up and say “ I need a sitter for x day” and they say ok we have these people available and give a quick blurb about each and op chooses and books one. If they can’t come ( or have a funeral) the company sends a back up. It’s how many, many people cope. Ok is lucky she normally has MIL. This isn’t the tragic tale of woe it’s being presented as. It’s a nuisance yes; but drama, no.

HolidayBurden · 15/02/2024 00:29

Yabvu- your husband should cover. Who the hell are you to tell her she can't attend a funeral?? Jesus

TerriPie · 15/02/2024 00:45

Have you tried contacting the widow to see if they can change the funeral to a day that suits you better? 😉

HassledMumof3 · 15/02/2024 00:56

Sparsely · 14/02/2024 23:22

It really helps the grieving to have a good turnout and feel the love. So it's not just for people who are really close. It's for anyone who cares. Which your MiL obviously does.

Yep. People are at their weakest when they lose someone close. The smallest things such as a good turnout can be a tonic.

1989whome · 15/02/2024 01:08

Is this real? Can someone really be that entitled?! How dare some one die and inconvenience you 🙄. You sound like a d#*k head tbf.

momonpurpose · 15/02/2024 02:12

puzzledout · 14/02/2024 23:14

Not all people......

Which clearly doesn't include the OPs MIL, it's warped that you think everyone should think like you!

Agreed. Mil wants to be there for her sil and her family. Because....they are her family too

momonpurpose · 15/02/2024 02:15

HassledMumof3 · 15/02/2024 00:56

Yep. People are at their weakest when they lose someone close. The smallest things such as a good turnout can be a tonic.

Thank you when my mother died she was 69. Women she graduated with and had not seen since 18 showed up. In fact one was a coworker who sent apologies she could not attend my mother's funeral because a friend from school days had passed away. She was shocked when she realized her friend was my mother. It meant so much to me.

Mummyoflittledragon · 15/02/2024 05:06

LadyBird1973 · 14/02/2024 22:56

If sister in law genuinely has no one else there to support her, then I will revise my opinion. But I think it's very very unlikely.

It doesn’t matter if her SIL has 20 people to support her. Having her SIL there will still be greatly appreciated.

Sometimesharshbutalwaysfair · 15/02/2024 05:49

How insensitive are you! Your kids - your problem. Suck it up buttercup. Have you wondered about whether she will ever want to look after your kids again?